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Hi, I'm Clovermoss. Welcome to my talk page. There's not really anything here yet, but I'm hoping that might change as I get more involved with Wikipedia in general.
Clovermoss (talk) 22:33, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
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Church of Saint-Sulpice, Jumet - disambig page - moved discussion from help desk
Currently, this article links to a disambug page about Saint-Sulpice, but I think there's enough churches to warrant a a page just about the churches themselves. There already is one on the French Wikipedia, [1] and it lists 48 articles of churches named Saint-Sulpice in France. Would this be a good reason to create a disambugation page? Clovermoss (talk) 22:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Clovermoss: Rather than copy a large chunk into a content fork, where the info is duplicated, I would just add a churches section to the Saint-Sulpice dab page, with the places that are churches, and separate alphabetically by country, like the current places section is separated. Then create a redirect called Saint-Sulpice Church, sending readers to your new church section on that dab page. Then the info won't have to be maintained in two places. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:25, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Timtempleton Okay, that's a great idea! Thank you. Clovermoss (talk) 00:36, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Timtempleton I've ran into some problems with this approach.
- It seems that there's only two Church articles written in English; so there's 46 churches that would be red links if I listed them. I could put all the work into translating and creating these articles (if they meet English Wikipedia guidelines), but 46 articles about churches is a lot of work to do without thinking about whether that's a good idea. I'm also currently working on my own drafts - I don't think I'm quite ready to handle something like that yet, especially since this draft of mine has taken a few months to get to its current state.
- The suggested redirect of Saint-Sulpice Church is already a redirect to Church of Saint-Sulpice, Paris.
Clovermoss (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't go through all the items to see if they were churches or not, but if there are only two, then you can move those two into a churches subsection. If the Paris church is the most notable, then that should get the redirect, but there can be a hatnote at the top of the Paris church article saying to the effect "for the other church, see that churches article". With just two churches, rather than another dedicated redirect, you can hatnote each to point to each other. Of course, you could chain the dab info i.e. {{About|the Parisian church|the other church|other church)}} {{Other uses|Saint-Sulpice (disambiguation)}} TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for letting me know about all of this. I'm going to busy for a few days, so if I'm editing articles it's probably articles I'm reading to read, not to edit. (In general, I still tend to read Wikipedia more than I edit it, but if I see any glaring issues I usually fix them as I go along.) When I'm less busy in real life I'll make sure I get around to this. Also, thank you for all the help answering my questions at the help desk Timtempleton, I appreciate it. Clovermoss (talk) 22:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- My pleasure - and thanks for whatever you do to improve the encyclopedia. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Timtempleton Plans actually became a bit more lenient for me on short notice. I had some spare time to edit, so I did. And... thank you for whatever your doing to improve the encyclopedia, as well. Clovermoss (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- My pleasure - and thanks for whatever you do to improve the encyclopedia. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for letting me know about all of this. I'm going to busy for a few days, so if I'm editing articles it's probably articles I'm reading to read, not to edit. (In general, I still tend to read Wikipedia more than I edit it, but if I see any glaring issues I usually fix them as I go along.) When I'm less busy in real life I'll make sure I get around to this. Also, thank you for all the help answering my questions at the help desk Timtempleton, I appreciate it. Clovermoss (talk) 22:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- I didn't go through all the items to see if they were churches or not, but if there are only two, then you can move those two into a churches subsection. If the Paris church is the most notable, then that should get the redirect, but there can be a hatnote at the top of the Paris church article saying to the effect "for the other church, see that churches article". With just two churches, rather than another dedicated redirect, you can hatnote each to point to each other. Of course, you could chain the dab info i.e. {{About|the Parisian church|the other church|other church)}} {{Other uses|Saint-Sulpice (disambiguation)}} TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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 Gunilla Persson in 2013
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Katherine Hughes DYK
Unfortunately, I've found myself quite busy within the past few days, both elsewhere online and in real life, so I haven't yet had time to expand Katherine Hughes (activist) to find a potentially better DYK hook. Because 7 days have almost passed since the article was moved to mainspace, it may be best for you to go ahead and make the DYK nomination with whatever hook you think would be the most interesting; it does appear to meet the criteria. If you need any help with the DYK, I should have time to assist you, I just wouldn't have time to flesh out sources or significantly expand the article. I do still check my watchlist regularly so I should respond to any pings or messages in a timely manner. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 My talk page 14:29, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- SkyGazer 512 Okay! I'm going to read the link again to refresh my memory. I don't have much time this weekend for Wikipedia, but I can make a bit of time right now to take a look. Clovermoss (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- SkyGazer 512 I tried, but I don't think I did it right. Can you take a look? It's at Template:Did you know nominations/Katherine Hughes (activist). It said up to 8 hooks, but I just used the one that I was thinking of before. Are there any other hooks you can think of? Clovermoss (talk) 21:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- You formatted it better than I've seen many other users do who are new to DYK. :) You don't need the ellipsis after the hook, only before; make sure that the name of the article is bolded in the hook. Generally it's better to have the reference for the hook next to it without ref tags; it's easier than having to navigate to a reflist. Also, when you make a nomination, it has to be transcluded onto Template talk:Did you know (by adding {{Did you know nominations/''Name of article''}} to a dated section when the article was created, moved to mainspace, first expanded, or improved to GA). I know, a lot of things to remember (most of these are minor issues)! I'm pretty sure I've fixed everything necessary for now. Let me know if you have any further questions.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 22:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- @SkyGazer 512: Thank you! I think the only other question I have for now is... how does this work? I'm guessing that I have to wait for input from other editors, but I'm not sure what I should expect now that the article is nominated. Clovermoss (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- @SkyGazer 512: Now that the nomination has been reviewed, I'm guessing that I'm waiting for additional input from other editors? I'm just curious if there's some sort general estimation of how long the DYK process takes. Clovermoss (talk) 23:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, if a nomination has an issue that needs to be addressed, it must be addressed before the nomination can be approved. If there's a disagreement between the reviewer and nominator regarding the interestingness of the hook or any other issues or the reviewer wants a second opinion, they may wish to call for a new reviewer. Don't worry, there are many people who actively patrol the list of unapproved DYKs, so your nomination will not go unnoticed. Nominations rarely get failed as long as the nominator is active and addressing issues when possible. Once a hook is approved, someone will come along to promote it to a preparation area unless they find more issues that need to be addressed, in which case they will say so. It will then be moved to a queue by an admin and added to the main page by a bot at the appropriate time. The best approximation I can think of for the totality of the process is a month, but it can vary significantly from one week to several months to get a nomination from creation to the main page. I hope this helps.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 00:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- @SkyGazer 512: Thanks! It does help! Clovermoss (talk) 00:32, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, if a nomination has an issue that needs to be addressed, it must be addressed before the nomination can be approved. If there's a disagreement between the reviewer and nominator regarding the interestingness of the hook or any other issues or the reviewer wants a second opinion, they may wish to call for a new reviewer. Don't worry, there are many people who actively patrol the list of unapproved DYKs, so your nomination will not go unnoticed. Nominations rarely get failed as long as the nominator is active and addressing issues when possible. Once a hook is approved, someone will come along to promote it to a preparation area unless they find more issues that need to be addressed, in which case they will say so. It will then be moved to a queue by an admin and added to the main page by a bot at the appropriate time. The best approximation I can think of for the totality of the process is a month, but it can vary significantly from one week to several months to get a nomination from creation to the main page. I hope this helps.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 00:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- You formatted it better than I've seen many other users do who are new to DYK. :) You don't need the ellipsis after the hook, only before; make sure that the name of the article is bolded in the hook. Generally it's better to have the reference for the hook next to it without ref tags; it's easier than having to navigate to a reflist. Also, when you make a nomination, it has to be transcluded onto Template talk:Did you know (by adding {{Did you know nominations/''Name of article''}} to a dated section when the article was created, moved to mainspace, first expanded, or improved to GA). I know, a lot of things to remember (most of these are minor issues)! I'm pretty sure I've fixed everything necessary for now. Let me know if you have any further questions.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 22:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
If you come up with alternative hooks intended to be more "hooky" (interesting) then I'll aim to review them (you could prod me). If you think the existing hook is sufficiently interesting, then perhaps you could request an additional (previously non-involved) editor to offer an independent second opinion. I'm not sure the best way to recruit such a reviewer -- perhaps someone active on the DYK reviewing page? But if you have ideas to make a more interesting hook, that might be the simplest. Most of the review is already done; All that would need to happen is that the new hook's supporting refs would need to be checked (plus its hookiness appraised). --Presearch (talk) 02:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Katherine Hughes (activist)
Hello! Your submission of Katherine Hughes (activist) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Presearch (talk) 23:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
PS Nice article. The only issue I identified was maybe the hook should be more interesting, and I see from your talk page that you wanted to do that but the deadline was approaching. Glad you nominated. Now you can take time to tweak the hook. Or maybe it's good enough already, if others more active in DYK think so. --Presearch (talk) 23:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Presearch Thank you for the compliment and for reviewing my nomination! :) I'll take a look at the page again to see what issues there are that I might need to address. On a totally unrelated note, I looked briefly at your userpage and saw the userbox about your interest in suistainble living. I'm not suggestbot, but Fast fashion is a c-class article that might be related to suistainable living. I came across it earlier with the intention of reading the article (I still tend to read more than edit). Feel free to ignore this suggestion, I just thought I'd ask. Clovermoss (talk) 23:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Presearch The wordplay suggestion is interesting. I'd be open to that if we can find a way to make it work, as that would make the hook more interesting. Clovermoss (talk) 23:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: I saw the note, but I don't understand what it means. I don't see any which tags in the article? Or does it have something to do with DYK format itself? Clovermoss (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: I found it after looking the article over a few more times. Working on fixing it, at the moment. Clovermoss (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2019)
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This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2019)
 Sashimi at a restaurant
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TheWikiWizard - May 2019
Hello, Clovermoss! Here is the May 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.
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This week's article for improvement (week 21, 2019)
 Ancient Greek letters painted on the body of an Attic black-figure cup
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This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2019)
 Josephine Bornebusch in 2013
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TheWikiWizard - Update
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This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2019)
Hello, Clovermoss.
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This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2019)
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This week's article for improvement (week 25, 2019)
 Bookworm damage inside a book
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