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mercy point
editAoba47, i had a quick question regarding this article. would it be helpful to add "before the hiatus" after "only three episodes had aired" in the second paragraph of the "Broadcast history and release" section? that clause is in the same sentence as the clause mentioning the announcement, which led me to erroneously believe that three episodes had aired by the time of the announcement. i recognize that you had changed "two" to "three" in response to a comment at fac, which fixed an issue in the lead, though i admittedly feel that the edit made the sentence in the article body more confusing.
by the way, i thought you might find it interesting that another work in which joe morton appears is scheduled to be featured at tfa next week. dying (talk) 22:52, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Dying: Thank you for the message. I agree with your suggestion and can see how this area is unnecessarily confusing and just not be best worded. I have implemented it into the article, but feel free to let me know if there is anything else that needs improvements. It is always best to make sure that everything is as clear as possible, and I appreciate that you pointed this out for me.
- I am not sure how to feel when I think that this article's FAC was back in 2017 lol. Thank you for the Terminator 2 link. That is really cool. It has been a very long time since I have seen that movie so I should definitely rewatch it one of these days. Maybe I should use this as a reason to bring another Joe Morton-related article through the FAC process. Hope you are doing well and have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Thank you today for the article, introduced (in 2017): "This is an article about an American science fiction medical drama that aired for one season on United Paramount Network (UPN) from October 6, 1998, to July 15, 1999. With an ensemble cast led by: Joe Morton, Maria del Mar, Alexandra Wilson, Brian McNamara, Salli Richardson, Julia Pennington, Gay Thomas, Jordan Lund, and Joe Spano, the series takes place in a 23rd-century hospital space station located in deep space and revolves around its doctors and nurses. Initially focused on ethical and medical cases, the storylines gradually shifted toward focusing on the characters' personal relationships to better fit UPN's primarily teen demographic."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
FAC
editHi there, you participated in a peer review I opened for the article I Am the Best a while back and I was wondering if you can provide feedback for the FAC of that article at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/I Am the Best/archive1. More comments would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 16:37, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Nkon21: Thank you for the message. Unfortunately, I will have to say no to reviewing this FAC. I have already told another editor that I would review their FAC, and I have been trying to be more aware of my time on Wikipedia so I am not reviewing as much as I did in the past. Apologies for that. Best of luck with the FAC. Aoba47 (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Pegasus Bridge (video game)
editPegasus Bridge (video game) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. VRXCES (talk) 06:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
FAC
editHello. Can you revisit the FAC. I think I have address your concerns, so is it possible for you to briefly re-review that section and withdraw your oppose. It is in my best interest for you to withdraw your oppose so other people can review it and/or support it understanding that these comments have been addressed. Wingwatchers (talk) 22:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Wingwatchers: As I already said in FAC, I could not and would not guarantee that I would revisit the review. I may revisit the nomination when other editors have reviewed it. Other editors can review it even with my oppose standing, and some may disagree and support the nomination regardless. I would be more mindful about how you approach reviewers in the future. You have left me two responses on the FAC and now have gone to my talk page when I have already made my position clear on the matter. I do not want to get stuck in a fix loop where we keep going back and forth on individual examples, etc. I still see issues with the "Thematic analysis" section, my oppose still stands, and I would kindly ask you to please stop with the frequent messages. Best of luck with the FAC, and I hope you have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 (talk) 00:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, but you have to understand my perspective. Before I proceed to invite others to review it, I want to make the impression that it has no major issues such as "fundamental issues with the prose". I understand that you appeared to be very busy, but this defeats the whole purpose of FAC which is supposed to be the active involvement of both the reviewers and the nominator. I have strived to improve it as best as I can according to your comments, but I cannot make any further progress without your active participation. You also said "Just by looking at the "Thematic analysis" section, I see fundamental issues with the prose [sic]" encompassing the entire article including every section beyond the Themes section including every single sentence in the whole production and reception sections despite that your expertise does no transcends beyond music articles which you omit by stating "I have not looked closely at other areas of the article" indicating that the entire article has so-called unimaginably terrible, fundamental prose issues. This paints a terrible first impression for any potential reviewers and obstructs any potential supporters of the article which is amplified by your FA article experience and reputation. However, when I tried to approach you harshly rejected me without any examples for me to further improve the article. How would you feel if I left extremely negative comments on your FAC and said I might not re-review it for various personal reasons? I want to believe you are acting in good faith but I am conflicted in belief because it appears at want to doom this article from attaining FA status in the beginning. You said you don't want to be stuck in a fix loop when in fact it is the reviewer's role to indicate problems for improvements. You warned be more mindful of approaching reviewers but I in fact do not want to approach you at all have it not for my extensive commitment to the FAC. I wholeheartedly want to address all your issues with the Themes section if you can be just a little bit more specific and assume your reviewer's responsibility beyond initial criticism. Thank you and I hope you have a great rest of your week too. Wingwatchers (talk) 01:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Upon reflecting on this I want to apologize for pouring excessive emotions on the above statement. After extensively reviewing the article article, it seems like your issue involved unattributed X challenged Y statement if so I have cited the authors who wrote that. Wingwatchers (talk) 02:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it. Aoba47 (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Leaving that behind us and after further extensive review, I referenced John Wick (film)#Thematic analysis and rewrote it from the ground up. Can I ask if it has at least started to align with your vision? Wingwatchers (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- It is looking better. When attributing scholars, like Laili, their full name should be used on the first instance as well as a short descriptor of who they are. The article currently only uses their last names without informing the reader about who they are. The subsection headings (i.e. "Sociology" and "Narrative") are unclear in my opinion and would benefit from something that is more descriptive of the contents. Also, for this sentence, (Frozen is interpreted as a critique of traditional gender norms and societal expectations.), it should be attributed who is interpreting the movie in this way. I am assuming you mean scholars, but it should be more clearly stated. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- I added their full names, remove the subsections, and mentioned that scholars interpreted it for that sentence. Wingwatchers (talk) 02:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- I will strike my oppose on the FAC page momentarily as I believe this section has been improved. Just to be 100% clear though, it is normal and appropriate for a reviewer to oppose a FAC if they believe the article is not fully prepared for the nomination. While I appreciated and acknowledged your apology above, I kindly ask you to refrain from doing this kind of behavior to other editors in the future. I hope you learn from this. I will not participate in the FAC further. Aoba47 (talk) 02:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- I added their full names, remove the subsections, and mentioned that scholars interpreted it for that sentence. Wingwatchers (talk) 02:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- It is looking better. When attributing scholars, like Laili, their full name should be used on the first instance as well as a short descriptor of who they are. The article currently only uses their last names without informing the reader about who they are. The subsection headings (i.e. "Sociology" and "Narrative") are unclear in my opinion and would benefit from something that is more descriptive of the contents. Also, for this sentence, (Frozen is interpreted as a critique of traditional gender norms and societal expectations.), it should be attributed who is interpreting the movie in this way. I am assuming you mean scholars, but it should be more clearly stated. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Leaving that behind us and after further extensive review, I referenced John Wick (film)#Thematic analysis and rewrote it from the ground up. Can I ask if it has at least started to align with your vision? Wingwatchers (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it. Aoba47 (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Upon reflecting on this I want to apologize for pouring excessive emotions on the above statement. After extensively reviewing the article article, it seems like your issue involved unattributed X challenged Y statement if so I have cited the authors who wrote that. Wingwatchers (talk) 02:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, but you have to understand my perspective. Before I proceed to invite others to review it, I want to make the impression that it has no major issues such as "fundamental issues with the prose". I understand that you appeared to be very busy, but this defeats the whole purpose of FAC which is supposed to be the active involvement of both the reviewers and the nominator. I have strived to improve it as best as I can according to your comments, but I cannot make any further progress without your active participation. You also said "Just by looking at the "Thematic analysis" section, I see fundamental issues with the prose [sic]" encompassing the entire article including every section beyond the Themes section including every single sentence in the whole production and reception sections despite that your expertise does no transcends beyond music articles which you omit by stating "I have not looked closely at other areas of the article" indicating that the entire article has so-called unimaginably terrible, fundamental prose issues. This paints a terrible first impression for any potential reviewers and obstructs any potential supporters of the article which is amplified by your FA article experience and reputation. However, when I tried to approach you harshly rejected me without any examples for me to further improve the article. How would you feel if I left extremely negative comments on your FAC and said I might not re-review it for various personal reasons? I want to believe you are acting in good faith but I am conflicted in belief because it appears at want to doom this article from attaining FA status in the beginning. You said you don't want to be stuck in a fix loop when in fact it is the reviewer's role to indicate problems for improvements. You warned be more mindful of approaching reviewers but I in fact do not want to approach you at all have it not for my extensive commitment to the FAC. I wholeheartedly want to address all your issues with the Themes section if you can be just a little bit more specific and assume your reviewer's responsibility beyond initial criticism. Thank you and I hope you have a great rest of your week too. Wingwatchers (talk) 01:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Promotion of The One (Tamar Braxton song)
editPeer review request
editHi Aoba47! I was wondering if you take requests for peer reviews. I would like a critical look at Wikipedia:Peer review/List of best-selling Latin music artists/archive1. I would return the favor by reviewing one of your FA/FL content. Erick (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the message. Unfortunately, I will not have the time right now to do a review. I am currently in the middle of a few FAC reviews, and once I wrap those up, I plan on taking a break from reviewing in general. Apologies for not being much help, and best of luck with the peer review! Aoba47 (talk) 15:44, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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editYou've reverted the edit on Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Wrath of the Darkhul King regarding the company Natsume. In fact, there were two separate companies that both go by "Natsume" when the game was released in 2003: Natsume Co., Ltd. (currently Natsume Atari) and Natsume Inc. Both companies are equally notable and it's a common mistake within Wikipedia to confuse them. Using its full legal name is a reasonable way to prevent such misconception. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 09:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the post. I am still not fully convinced to be completely honest. My primary concern is still that the game and the coverage surrounding it uses "Natsume" so I thought using "Natsume Co., Ltd." could be potentially misleading. That being said, I do understand your perspective and I have restored your edit to the article. I will see how other editors respond to this change during the peer review process and the future FAC nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 19:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- If the naming inconsistency is a problem, I suggest re-formatting them into something like [[Natsume Co., Ltd.|Natsume]] rather than full revert. The reason I edited the original article was that the links were formatted as [[Natsume (company)|Natsume]], which is not only pointing to its old name (Natsume (company) was moved to Natsume Atari to reflect the company's current name) but it's prone to confusion between two companies like I mentioned earlier. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 09:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. I had somehow missed the change in the target article so apologies for that. I will keep your suggestion as I do understand your rationale about adding clarity and avoiding any potential confusion for readers. Regardless of my personal opinion, it is best to be as clear as possible in the prose, and on further reflection, I can understand how the edit helped to improve the article. It is probably best to fully spell it out in the prose rather than making readers click on a link to see which company is being referenced. Aoba47 (talk) 09:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- If the naming inconsistency is a problem, I suggest re-formatting them into something like [[Natsume Co., Ltd.|Natsume]] rather than full revert. The reason I edited the original article was that the links were formatted as [[Natsume (company)|Natsume]], which is not only pointing to its old name (Natsume (company) was moved to Natsume Atari to reflect the company's current name) but it's prone to confusion between two companies like I mentioned earlier. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 09:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Retired
editThis is very unfortunate for Wikipedia. I really loved working together with you all these years. Not sure what initiated this sudden retirement but I respect your choice and can only hope for a comeback in the future. Either way, all the very best with all your future endeavors. Your friendly presence will be missed here. FrB.TG (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear about this, and I hope to see you around. If not, best wishes for the future. It was always a good sign to see your username around. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly hope this is only a temporary break. You're an angel in a world that sorely lacks them. Please come back soon. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I echo the same sentiments. You've always brought a sense of welcoming and helpful attitude towards everyone, and have always been respectful with your interactions to editors. I sincerely hope you take a much needed break (if it's temporary), but also wish you the best for all the endeavors outside of wiki that you wish to pursue. Take care! Pseud 14 (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly hope this is only a temporary break. You're an angel in a world that sorely lacks them. Please come back soon. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Very sorry to hear that you've left us, Aoba. You were the first person to ever review one of my GA nominations, and I looked up to you as a mentor for where I am today. I hope you still have notifications on so you see this, because you were one of maybe three editors I would say that I wouldn't be where I am today without. You were a great help at several of my GAs and at least one of my FAs over the years, and your help to the project was invaluable. I remember this not being the first time you've tried to retire, but I wish you godspeed in wherever your life outside Wikipedia takes you. I and many others will miss you, and thank you for being a mentor to my work. dannymusiceditor oops 17:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I hope everything's okay, and that you'll return. If not, I know you'll be missed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC) |
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So sad to see you go... I wonder what triggered your retirement so suddenly but hope it's for the best! I hope it was a great ride on Wikipedia for you and I wish you a happy and fruitful life no matter what decisions you take. All the best, Ippantekina (talk) 03:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC) |
Sorry to see this
editHello Aoba, I'm very sorry to see this banner - and even sorrier it took me this long to realize. I echo the sentiments of everyone above in wishing you well and hoping for your eventual return. You remain a valued member of this community, and I will sorely miss seeing your messages and reviews. Thank you for everything you've done on this project. Best wishes, friend. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:30, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just saw the notice myself and am likewise sorry to get the news -- as PMC says you've done a lot of good work here. I hope to see you back here whenever you feel like it, whether that's a week from now or a year or more. Best of luck. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- We never interacted, but I was looking forward to changing that. Your reputation precedes you, like a shard of light beaming through the haze. You will be missed. –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 10:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear this as well. You are most welcome back if you feel such an urge! I was quite fond of not only your excellently researched and written articles, but the Degas which adorned your userpage. I hope you'll forgive me for putting it in this thread :) Aza24 (talk) 07:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you
editThank you everyone for your kind words. I only saw these messages today as I have been away from Wikipedia since retiring. These messages mean a lot to me. Upon further reflection, I decided to change my retirement to a WikiBreak as I do genuinely miss the editing and the community. I will still be continuing my break though. Apologies for not being able to contribute reviews as normal. My main reason for retiring was frustration with Wikipedia as well as things off-Wiki. I hope everyone is doing well and having a great 2024 so far. Aoba47 (talk) 03:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- I know our paths haven't crossed much, but I've always enjoyed collaborating with you. I definitely understand the occasional frustration Wikipedia can cause, especially when balancing our real-world lives. Hope to see you back one day! TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for turning the article Jill Valentine into FA before; since then, I have also applied it to several Resident Evil character articles and copied some of the format and style, including its chart list in the appearances section for consistency, which is also helpful for the GAN process + all of the RE characters now are GAs. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 05:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC) |
- @Greenish Pickle!: Thank you for the kind words! Honestly, @Homeostasis07: did all of the actual work. I was just helping out where I could. I am glad that it was helpful for other articles, and congrats on getting all the Resident Evil articles to GA status. Aoba47 (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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editglad your contributions have popped up in my watchlist again! no matter the frequency with which you'll be editing, I'm happy to see more work from you here. hope all is well with you in real life 💗 PSA 🏕️ (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the message. I really do appreciate it. I feel bad for all the back-and-forth that I have done with retiring and breaks lately so sorry for that. Things have been getting better in real life. I'm just trying my best out here lol. I hope you are doing well with everything on-Wiki and off. Aoba47 (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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editHi. Just wondering if you can review the FAC for AC/DC, if you can. — VAUGHAN J. (t · c) 06:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vaughan J.: Thank you for the message. Unfortunately, I will not have the time to review your FAC, but best of luck with it. Aoba47 (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)