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Speedy deletion nomination of EXO (band)

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Hi!

I admire your efforts to improve K-pop articles, though I would recommend to examine Wikipedia standards more thoroughly and try to think about writing a wiki article as if you were writing a dissertation. Language is important, and quotes should be reduced to a minimum, and to important ones that are better be displayed than paraphrased because of their nature. But to quote everything is not an encyclopedia standard. I have myself written a couple of K-pop articles on my native wiki, some of them got featured and I would love to collaborate with you on improving the K-pop article. I have tremendous sources available, as you can check at hu:K-pop. The only thing is that English wiki seems to be very picky on sources, while my wiki sees no problem with Allkpop links as long as they contain credible info (and not gossips), enwiki will not accept Allkpop as a reliable source (I had numerous discussions about this beforehand....). I really would like to make this article featured but then we need to replace Allkpop and Soompi with Korean sources, whenever possible. Do you perhaps speak Korean?

Please let me know if you'd be willing to coordinate with me in improving the K-pop article, because it deserves a properly written article, especially with the rising popularity of the genre. Thanks for considering, and I am open to any questions or suggestions. You might want to leave a message on my native wiki where I am based, as I watch it more often. --小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 14:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Formatting references

Hi! You should learn to format references (url, title, publisher [where it was published, e.g. Time or Korea.net], date [publication date], access date [the date you accessed the article and it was still there, at the URL address], language [if the article is not in English; e.g. write "language=Korean"], and maybe author [name of the person who wrote it]). Read Wikipedia:Citation templates, Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources, Wikipedia:Citing sources/Example edits for different methods, etc. Example:

<ref>{{cite web|url=http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2011/11/07/google-plans-k-pop-channel-and-more/|title=Google Plans K-Pop Channel, and More?|publisher=[[The Wall Street Journal]]|date=2011-11-07|accessdate=2012-08-30}}</ref>

--Moscowconnection (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll take note of that next time. This is only my 2nd time editing wikipedia, so thanks for pointing it out. i'll tidy up the references when i have more time

• Don't go. I replied on Talk:K-pop. Your sections should look like "K-pop has great potential for becoming mainstream worldwide, blablabla, Time wrote: ...". "It's noticed and commented on the highest political level, and viewed as a mean to tighten the economical ties with South Korea, blablabla, Obama said: ...". "Some American pop musicians admire K-pop and want to make K-pop music themself, cause, as Lady Gaga said to Billboard, ...". I invented the examples myself but you get the idea. --Moscowconnection (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• And, actually, there aren't that many people on Wikipedia as you may think. The article K-pop is "watched" by 70 people only. There are surely just several people who edit it regularly. If you don't do it, if you don't make Wikipedia coverage of K-pop better, no one will. But you suggested some girls may exchange running after idols for writing about them on Wikipedia, it's not a good idea, stalking idols and discussing them on forums is surely much more entertaining. --Moscowconnection (talk) 13:32, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
• And about italics for quotations. Read Wikipedia:Manual of Style, what you should use when is kinda standardized already. How quotations, and album titles, and book titles, and references should look like, it all has been decided by the Wikipedia community, so you should either comply with the Wikipedia manual of style or propose changing the manual of style on its talk page. :) And again, don't go. Many editors here probably don't take Wikipedia too seriously cause it's created by amateurs. But your edits made Wikipedia a little better, more people will actually read the K-pop article now. If you have time to rewrite it using some general sentences, do it, otherwise someone will simply delete your additions. (I can defend them against people who openly vandalize the article, but sooner or later an experienced editor may do the same cause it's easier to simply delete something you don't like than to rewrite it.) --Moscowconnection (talk) 14:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

• well I'll still hang around once in a while to edit what I've already wrote, but I wont be adding any new information. I've condensed everything I want to write so it looks better now A1candidate (talk) 13:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 21:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

K-pop idols household names

Let me quote the relevant paragraph from BBC: "This is why the biggest date in the Korean pop calendar - the Dream Concert, at which up to 20 bands perform - is held in Seoul's 66,800-seat World Cup Stadium. Teenage crushes come here for a once-a-year date in a national love story, where commitment is measured in coloured balloons, and devotion is knowing all the words. Most of the bands, like Super Junior and Wonder Girls, are household names; highly produced, sugary boy- and girl-bands with slick dance routines and catchy tunes." It is 100% that "household names" is part of a paragraph and section describing the Korean music scene, you would fail an English comprehension test if you claimed otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.180.169 (talk) 21:32, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• I never wrote that those bands are "household names" outside Korea, all I wrote was that the bands are "household names" and thats exactly what the BBC says. "Most of the bands, like Super Junior and Wonder Girls, are household names". Nothing more, nothing less.A1candidate (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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It'd help if you didn't delete tags before the dispute was resolved, too. andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 17:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC) and 17:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!

Thanks for all your work on Gangnam Style It's a crazy page to maintain! :)

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Speedy deletion nomination of BIGBANG Alive Galaxy Tour 2012

Hello A1candidate,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged BIGBANG Alive Galaxy Tour 2012 for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Alanl (talk) 12:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!

nice gangnam pics

Harishrawat11 (talk) 16:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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ABC Quote in Gangnam Style article

I do agree with you about this quote, that it should be restored. I've put in on the article's talk page for discussion. Feel free to comment there, thanks. Castncoot (talk) 21:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Gangnam_Style.23ABC_.28good_morning_america.29_quote I've filed a report here.Curb Chain (talk) 23:52, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

GNS view count source

Hey, I've just found a source that has a fantastic graph about Gangnam Style's YouTube video's view count. This is it -- if you can incorporate the info into the article's graph, that'll be great. Cheers --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:46, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

That graph looks nice. Keep the graph you have though since it won't have copyright issues, but if you need a second graph for total views, that's a good reference. AngusWOOF (talk) 18:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Notability and indiscriminate collection of information

Regarding cultural memes, Wikipedia generally covers the topic under the subject of the meme, for example Lolcat rather than "Lolcat phenomenon" or Ghost-riding rather than "Ghost-riding phenomenon". There is no reason to split off a separate article on the meme separate from the subject, IMO. Regarding the Twitter lists, these are excessive for an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia articles are supposed to summarize information, not present a comprehensive collection of all information. It is also debatable whether or not such lists constitute original research. Kaldari (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

That is completely true and valid. However, in my humble opinion, if the Gangnam Phenomenon's social, cultural and economic impact is influential enough, then it should be notable enough to have its own page. As far as I can tell, according to Ghost-riding's article, the only effect it seems to have is "two and eight deaths in North America". Lolcat has only managed to inspire a few internet videos. Thats hardly a good reason for a separate page. Gangnam Style, on the other hand, may have “profound long-term implications for the traditional media ecosystem,”

Only quotes by top celebrities with more than 1,000 retweets have been selected because they have either directly or indirectly spread the song outside the singer's home country. Multiple 3rd party sources are available to support the quotes more than a few weeks old, which have already been added -A1candidate (talk) 22:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Let's clear something up

Hey dude, I just want to keep the records straight -- I don't want you to think I'm assuming that you're editing in bad faith. You seem very enthusiastic (who isn't) about this bitchin' song, and that creates problems in terms of what's considered trivial or not. I just need you to tone down some of your words [1], remove quotes that belong to obscure people, like the one from "Response from the K-pop community" (you should seriously consider creating a Wikiquote counterpart for this article). Other than that, I really want you to keep doing what you're doing at the moment, because it's great! I hope I don't have to go over your work as much. Cheers ;) --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 20:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I'm thinking about giving the article a complete overhaul in my user space -- you're welcome to help out if you feel it it. Please give me a response. Cheers --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Gangnam Style for good article

Would you like me to nominate Gangnam Style for good article?--Lucky102 (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I believe this article is currently going through peer review and may need to be copyedited, but you can give it a try -A1candidate (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Lucky102 is asking you to do it, because it's honorable. I'm not sure but I think the one who nominates an article successfully is congratulated automatically on the talk page and is entitled to display a box about it on the user page. Something like that... You are the main contributor, so you should be the one who nominates the article and gets all the honors. Do it: Wikipedia:Good article nominations. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Alright, done. I didnt know about that, so thanks for pointing it out. Cheers^^ -A1candidate (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Why didn't you wait until the peer review is closed? Ideally there shouldn't be a PR and GAN going on at the same time. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Main points brought up by PReviewer have been addressed, I wasn't aware of a rule that says no PR+GAN, I thought better to have opinions from more editors -A1candidate (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

K-pop

Hey! Thanks for the reply. I will try to translate a few passages from the huwiki article. :) 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 13:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

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Psy rapper

That page is a mess, I spent 1/2 hour last night reverting IP vandalism. I saw that you put it up for semi-protection. Is there anything I can do to help? --Sue Rangell 20:02, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I guess its semi-protected now, and the vandalism has thankfully died down. Thanks for catching those disruptive edits -A1candidate (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Congrats! Gangnam Style is now a GA ElectroPro (talk) 19:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! Congrats! AngusWOOF (talk) 06:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Im proud of this GA! Thanks for reviewing and helping out at this article :) -A1candidate (talk) 07:06, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Gangnam Style phenomenon for deletion

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Opplà Silvio Style

Thank you for this corrections! My English is very poor... If you want to know other things about Crozza and his song ask me. This is the video uploaded by La7 on YouTube. Bye --Mystère Martin (talk) 14:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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K-pop

Hi, I started expanding the article from the Hungarian version. I noticed a lot of references are unformatted in the article, can you help to put them in shape using {{cite web}} and {{cite book}}? I'll try to clear up as many as I can as well on the go. I think some parts of the article will need to be revised, with less tiny details added, especially in the former Globalization part. Too many little details of individual band concerts and appearances there. I think individual concerts do not show influence or impact, those have happened before the K-wave as well. I see too many quotes as well, I think Obama's quote is out of proportion here, it doesn't prove anything, he made a passing mention. It can be mentioned but I think it is blowing out of proportion to quote in big quotation marks as if it were of some very important impact to K-pop - and it clearly isn't, it is just part of the Gangnam style hype. I'll try to make the article a bit more factually balanced. Thanks for the help in advance. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 09:45, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Agree with everything you said except the Obama quote, he made the remark in 2011 months before Gangnam Style was released, and its there because the world's most powerful person recognizes that Korean popular culture is expanding worldwide. I think its a relevant statement that deserves a little bit more attention. I agree that the globalization part should be cleaned up and excessive details removed, but the sub-section headers (Asia, Europe, Russia, etc) should, in my opinion, not be deleted. Im glad someone finally re-organized the article, and I think you've done a decent job so far-A1candidate (talk) 13:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I would recommend changing the section's heading from "Popularity and impact" to "Popularity and notable concerts" or something similar, because it may be a good idea for "impact" to have its own section -A1candidate (talk) 13:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

That would be too much already. The article shouldn't be a list of concerts... One or two mentions is fine, of the bigger ones in scale, like the 40 thousand US concert or the 14 thousand Paris one, but not each and every K-pop concert ever held... this is what i was referring to as getting lost in details. Wikipedia's job is not to write a book on every momentum of the subject, our job is to give an overview. I'm going to rework that section to be more concise and to the point. Impact is perfectly suited there. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 15:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, during a visit to Korea he will obviously say something about Korea... That's not something special, and in any case he didn't talk about K-pop, he talked about hallyu. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 15:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

This article shouldn't be an excessive list of unnotable concerts. But notable concerts with their own wikipedia article do deserve to be mentioned here, at least a handful of them. K-pop is a part of hallyu. Its the most important aspect of the Korean wave. I doubt Obama would go around talking about a foreign country's pop music industry everytime he vists the place, unless its really important and he has a good reason to do so -A1candidate (talk) 18:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Milestones

Hi! I think the milestones part in the K-pop article should be rewritten. This is not the usual formatting of an article, wiki prefers flowing text to simply listing stuff. It can be incorporated into the section without looking like a timeline. Also considering this for a possible featured article status in the future. I'd like to rework the structure there if you don't mind. It also makes the section look a lot longer than the others, which makes the section look like being out of proportion. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 09:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, K-pop#Milestones isn't meant to be read as a list, in fact it is mostly written in prose, except that its separated into different time frames/time periods as one would expect in a milestone section. Also, one of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria is that articles are expected to be comprehensive ("it neglects no major facts or details"), which is what the milestone section aims to provide for the article. I agree that the section is longer than other sections, but thats only because the other sections needs to be expanded. For example, the section K-pop#1980s:_The_era_of_ballads with only 3 sentences is insufficient and would have to be either merged or expanded in its current state, especially when compared with sections in other featured articles such as, for example: Michael Jackson and Romeo and Juliet. But for now, I've separated the milestones part just below the history part -A1candidate (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I still think that this section is unnecessary in this form. Especially that you made it a separate section... It looks as if K-pop history milestones can only be counted from 2007. Which is misleading... What about Seo taiji? What about H.O.T? What about Boa's Japanese debut? And there are a lot of other important events. That section in this format is partial only, relevant only to the 21st century and the second half of the 2000s... I would incorporate the text under the hallyu wave section in a non-timeline form instead. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 15:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

There aren't that many notable milestones before 2007 (at least from an international point of view), please feel free to add BoA's Japanese debut if you wish, or any other important event also. From what I understand, K-Pop was not that well known outside South Korea before the 2000s, and there aren't much events/achievements of international notability before that. Each entry at the milestone section was carefully selected to include only notable international achievements which deserve to be mentioned, so by incorporating the text under the hallyu wave one would have to shorten the section (which lead to the removal of important content). If you reckon that milestone has to be merged with history, then it would be a good idea to either expand the other history sections first, or merge short sections together-A1candidate (talk) 15:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that we should only look at K-pop from an international point of view. The genre's history and important turning points are relevant, and K-pop was known before Psy as well. HOT was one of the first bands that started the Hallyu wave, to begin with... And the reference to the short sections is irrelevant, I put the expansion template on the article for a reason :) I am expanding it, from the Hungarian featured article, one section at a time, as I don't have time for more on weekdays. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 18:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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That reversion was both ridiculus and disruptive. I do not need to gain consensus before editing a page. I have clearly spelt out rationale for each of my edits. Your blanket reversion and inane two-word edit summary suggest you have ownership issues with this and related articles, refusing to allow even the most constructive edits to your preferred version. I don't really care enough to escalate this into an edit war, which I'm sure is what would be the eventual outcome. Further to that, "List of notable people who have danced Gangnam Style" is a junky, ridiculous list with hardly anything that could be described as "content". It embodies the worst of Wikipedia. You apparently have decided to ignore the community's decision, and maintain the article no matter what. But again, I give up. I'm out. Good luck with your editing. IgnorantArmies – 14:27, Saturday December 22, 2012 (UTC)

It was decided that the article should be merged, and not simply redirected. You simply blanked the page without merging anything back into the main article -A1candidate (talk) 14:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

WP:SOFIXIT. What is there to merge? What is there that could be possibly worthwile merging that is not already mentioned in the article? IgnorantArmies – 14:38, Saturday December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for being bold, but a list of names thats not worth merging (in your opinion) may in fact be worth mentioning (in another user's opinion). If you cared to look at the article's history you would have noticed that it was expanded a lot after it was decided to be merged -A1candidate (talk) 14:47, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

All right then, from the list, we have Khan, Hasselhoff, Weiwei, Kapoor, Anderson, Schmidt, Spears, Madonna, Brown, Furtado, Parl, Rudd, Key, Ban, Obama, Johnson, Cameron, Lander, Webber, Vettel, etc., etc., etc. in the main article. Surely this covers the most important names in the list, and with more information, as well. The information may not have been physically merged in one single edit, but the majority of the information present in the list is already present in the article. Perhaps your continued expansion of the list after community consensus endorsed a merger could have been spent merging the names you consider most important into the main article. IgnorantArmies – 14:53, Saturday December 22, 2012 (UTC)

The entire list was carefully picked so that only the most notable people are included. Just look at List_of_notable_people_who_have_danced_Gangnam_Style#Tennis_players, List_of_notable_people_who_have_danced_Gangnam_Style#Footballers, etc - Was anyone of the top sportsmen and women here even mentioned in the article? And for your info I wasn't the only one expanding the article, there were others helping out to expand it -A1candidate (talk) 15:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Please explain how the subject is notable outside of Exo in any way, shape, or form. One measly story about him on The Daily Beast is no where near sufficient to merit an entire article about him. — ξ^xplicit 02:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Take note that the article explicitly states the singer has a large fan base, which satisfies the criteria listed at WP:ENTERTAINER. If you still believe he should not have an article than just nominate it for deletion instead, so that other editors can join in the discussion-A1candidate (talk) 08:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

A deletion discussion is not appropriate in this case, as his name is still a possible search term and it should redirect to the Exo article. Instead, I have initiated a merge discussion on the article's talk page. I have also notified WikiProject Musicians and WikiProject Korea of it to get others to chime in. — ξ^xplicit 02:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

T-ara

Hello A1candidate. None of the information in that table is of any relevance at all. One could argue that dates of birth have some relevance, but there is plenty of room for that in their own articles--where in fact you find it in the infobox. One might quibble about the sourcing as well, given that no independent reference was given. Those transliterations add nothing at all to the article since this is the English wikipedia, and again, there's a thousand transliterations in the articles on the persons. (BTW, these articles, such as [Jeon Boram]], are also examples of fan pages: these singers aren't independently notable, not outside of T-ara, and should be deleted/redirected.) Finally, you also restored a redundant discography, since there is a main article. I think K-pop fans need to be pointed out that they can't have it both ways. If they produce a million articles, on every member, song, single, single-album, tour, compilation, manager, songwriter, et cetera, they will have to live with the fact that duplication of information across the board is unwanted. Mind you, a lot of that duplicated information is irrelevant anyway. I've seen articles that list official fan clubs and the colors of those official fan clubs. I've seen those tables of members that include astrological signs. At some point this has to stop. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Drmies, I will first make it clear that I was not the one who wrote all of that, in fact, other than the K-pop article itself and the Gangnam Style article, I rarely (if at all) create/edit articles for individual bands except when something big happens to them and its not already mentioned. My experience on Wikipedia so far has made me believe that when there's something wrong with a particular section/article, its better to tag it first and see if it gets fixed soon, when nothing happens and especially if its poorly sourced/not notable then it would make sense to delete it immediately, in any case the original editor/-s should be given some time to sort it out. Official fan clubs and colours may not be entirely irrelevant as it may seem, such stuff has always been part of numerous Wikipedia articles be it football clubs, musicians, video gaming clans, etc - If its well sourced and if the article simply states the official name/colour then I think thats perfectly fine. Also, most bands with their own discography article still keep a short, summarized list of important albums/single, see for example: Michael Jackson#Discography, One Direction#Discography, Backstreet Boys#Discography. In T-ara's case, a few singles/albums seemed to have topped the music charts in S. Korea (at least according to the main discography page) and I thought those would be notable enough to be mentioned under the "discography" section just like almost any other non-K-pop band/musician. On the other hand, blanking the entire section instead of summarizing it, seems counter productive. Now don't get me wrong though, there is A LOT of irrelevant information found in hundreds of K-pop articles and I really glad you've pruned out so much announcements/promotional activities/fancruft and I wish there were more editors like you to catch out other K-pop pages with similar stuff. Im just suggesting that sometimes it would be a good idea to allow some time for the articles to be improved, either by tagging it or otherwise :) -A1candidate (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Moon Mason

Hi, Could you please help me get Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Moon_Mason accepted in the main space? It appears you did the Little PSY page. Philiashasspots (talk) 04:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Philiashasspots, I would like to help you out on this, unfortunately I can't find much notable information about this child actor other than a few articles by K-Pop websites. I noticed there's already an article for him on Wikipedia, so I guess it would be better to just wait and add more information from non-K-Pop sources once the kid gets more attention from the media. Cheers :) -A1candidate (talk) 09:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi A1candidate. Since you're sort of the unofficial "mediator" of the discussion I thought I'd ask some advice from you. Honestly, in your personal opinion, do you think I'm being disruptive like what User:Moscowconnection says? I mean I'm actively participating in the talk page and making changes that are still in the context of keeping the criticism section. I just get the feeling that he wants me to shut up and go away or something. I'm debating whether to take this to WP:NPOVN or some other dispute resolution channels since there just seems to be a blockade to my edits. I've hoped that we could've figure this ourselves but there's no real dialogue with Moscowconnection. Do you think I should wait it out or something? Any advice? Best regards. Stateofyolandia (talk) 12:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I think its good that both you and Moscowconnection have used the talk page before reverting, and Im sure both of your edits were done in good faith (otherwise I would have reverted). I feel that the article really needs a separate section on the "dark side" of K-pop, but at the same time, the criticism section was/is overly detailed and those 2-3 cases of scandals in a time period lasting more than 10 years isn't really criticism at all. IMHO, this is just one of the reasons why the section needs to be completely re-written, but not completely removed. -A1candidate (talk) 13:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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Im pretty sure I did not violate the 3 revert rule because if you look carefully User:MarkusGuni was reverted by BOTH me AND User:GB fan. In other words, I reverted just 3 times and nothing more than that. Im hoping that this is simply just a case of carelessness/negligence of the administrator involved.

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You are right - I had included an obvious vandalism revert when counting your reverts, which I shouldn't have done. That was careless of me and you should not have been blocked. I would, however, encourage you take steps to avoid edit warring on the article; continuing to edit even if you don't break 3RR can be problematic. Instead of continually reverting the User:MarkusGuni, try engaging in discussion with him. If he refuses to listen, you make file a calm report at WP:ANI; if he does listen but you cannot agree, WP:DRN might be a good place to go. When you are trying to resolve the issue, it would be best to avoid editing the page. Even if the article seem wrong for a short amount of time, it is better to leave it like that and avoid disruption than to revert him, which has not helped so far. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 09:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I just wanted to add that I did try to discuss it with User:MarkusGuni, numerous times in fact. Take a look at the article's talk page] and the user's talk page. Unfortunately, my comments were were largely ignored and efforts to engage him in a discussion on his talk page were removed by the user. But you're right I should probably have went to WP:ANI to resolve this instead. Thanks for taking the time for this anyway.-A1candidate (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk:K-pop

Hi! Could you take a look at the last convo about YT views. I seriously think this original research proposal is harmful for the article... Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 17:51, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Its a bit too lengthy to read it all at once, but I've left a note over there to address the main issue being discussed. Lets hope it works out -A1candidate (talk) 05:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

About the edit war in "Edward Snowden"

Fangorn-Y (talk) 16:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC) You reverted my edition in the article "Edward Snowden" at 16:28, 15 June 2013.

Really, you had edited that article previously at 16:14, and up to 16:28 your changes were deleted. However, this deletions are made by User:Ohconfucius , not by me. I watch that now you have restored your changes. May I restore my changes in section "Press and public", which are not related to the information you added? Or you have some other reasons?

I think there's nothing wrong with your edit as long as its not too long. Its okay to update it continously, but I think it would be best to summarize it and just mention the current number of signatures instead of tracking the number of new signatures added daily to the petition -A1candidate (talk) 17:00, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

OK. Fangorn-Y (talk) 17:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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I dont really know how to do that, the full transcript is over here -A1candidate (talk) 06:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Good work

Very happy with your recent edits and your explanation on the talk page. Looking forward to working with you now on this and other articles. Thanks for a real day-brightener. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I am more than flattered by your praise, but my recent edits resulted from the conclusion that it is not worth the effort trying to a correct popular misconception (i.e. Acupuncture = Placebo) until scientific consensus changes, which it soon will. All other discussion is futile, but thanks for your message. -A1candidate (talk) 22:08, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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MEDLINE etc

MEDLINE does not itself publish systematic reviews.

Your apparent misconception that the MEDLINE database works by "guidelines based on systematic reviews" makes me suspect you may be confusing MEDLINE (and PubMed) as a whole [2] with a specific service within PubMed called PubMed Health [3].

While it is possible to filter searches to retrieve systematic reviews on a given topic both on PubMed as a whole (here) and on the PubMed Health search engine (here), there can be certain advantages to doing this on PubMed Health [4]. Currently, PubMed Health links to 431 systematic reviews on acupuncture published since 2003 [5]. However, please note that the fact that a systematic review is listed on PubMed Health does not automatically mean that it will be considered a reliable medical source for a given context.
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MEDLINE does not publish systematic reviews, it only evaluates them and provides health information based on up-to-date evidence. It would certainly be a good idea for you to be more specific about the reasons for dismissing it as not a reliable medical source -A1candidate (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Talking about MEDLINE as a "source" in itself makes no sense at all here. Fyi, MedlinePlus, as distinct from MEDLINE, aims to provide digested health information. My post here was merely to clarify some rather confusing claims you made at ANI [6]. [7] (talk) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Acupuncture article

Hi A1 candidate! I read your contribs to the acupuncture talk section and liked your points. I've become very interested in acupuncture studies lately and have a unique take on how to solve the dilemma you noted on the talk page. I don't know Wikipedia well anymore, but I do know this subject, so I'd be interested in your thoughts as well as any advice you might have for me in editing.Egamirorrimeht (talk) 23:29, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Egamirorrimeht, thanks for your message. Unfortunately, I could not get the consensus of other editors to include any of the points I made. Unless something changes, I personally think its futile to continue discussing about it, but Im happy to hear any suggestions -A1candidate (talk) 11:14, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Cassiopeia

Hi! I have already posted to the TVXQ talkpage regarding the Guinness Record claim. Whatever newspapers claim, Guinness as NO such record in their database, I checked it with them myself. They have a category for largest fanclub but it is not filled yet and they were not presented with any proof from anybody that Cassipoeia would be the biggest fanclub in the world. Also, they have no such category as "most photographed celebrity" and will never have one because it is impossible to measure and verify. I can forward you the email I got from Guinness, if you want. I also forwarded it to OTRS to verify my removal of the Guinness record claim from the TVXQ article. Cheers. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 17:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Teemeah, thanks for verifying the (apparently false) Guinness record. I'll take your word for it so there's no need to forward that email to me. Im just shocked that none of the Korean media outlets (including KBS) ever bothered to verify these claims before publishing their news -A1candidate (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

As I talked to an unnie who has been in K-pop since 2001, it appears that nobody ever really claimed a Guinness Record but it was some kind of local Korean record and Sm even published a statement on it but it's not to be found on the internet unfortunately. It escalated when someone apparently misinterpreted the information and a TVXQ member dropped a line in an interview about it. And then it rolled on and on....This shows just how low the standards of journalism are. If Cassiopeia would have a world record, the fan club would have been given an official physical printed certificate. No one ever saw that... Cheers Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Mass surveillance industry

Cite error: The named reference reuterschrono was invoked but never defined. --Frze ^{> talk} 05:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Medical guidelines

Please read our medical guidelines at WP:MEDRS. Particularly WP:MEDDATE, "Look for reviews published in the last five years or so, preferably in the last two or three years. The range of reviews you examine should be wide enough to catch at least one full review cycle, containing newer reviews written and published in the light of older ones and of more-recent primary studies." IRWolfie- (talk) 10:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

A reference problem

Hi! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names.

Here you added a new reference Guardian_2010 + Spiegel20130831 but didn't define it. This has been showing as an error at the bottom of the article. "" Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks -- Frze ^{> talk} 12:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for notifying. -A1candidate (talk) 14:00, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks for your work at GERAC! The article has never looked better and that's mainly to your credit. Cheers, --Mallexikon (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Its a team effort and I'm glad to be able to contribute where I can. -A1candidate (talk) 15:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Time Persons of the Year 1951–1975

Hi there. I know you have contributed to Time Person of the Year in the past. It would be great to have your opinion on an ongoing RfC at Template talk:Time Persons of the Year 1951–1975, regarding how entries for 1960 and 1975 are listed. Thanks. - HIGHFIELDS (TALK • UPLOADS) 15:24, 6 December 2013 (UTC)