Talk:The Signpost

Latest comment: 24 days ago by CapnZapp in topic Graph of Wikipedia
Former good articleThe Signpost was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 28, 2016Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
March 1, 2016Articles for deletionKept
March 13, 2016Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
March 16, 2016WikiProject approved revisionDiff to current version
April 6, 2016Good article nomineeListed
April 11, 2016WikiProject approved revisionDiff to current version
April 22, 2016Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
May 29, 2021Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 16, 2016.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that The Signpost publishes stories related to the Wikipedia community, the Wikimedia Foundation, and other Wikipedia-related projects?
Current status: Delisted good article

COI edit edit

I just noticed that the editor-in-chief position is listed as "vacant". I've been editor-n-chief for about 20 months now. That's about the 3rd or 4th longest tenure of anybody in the position. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About. Yes, I know that it's a conflict of interest, but I'll change that to "Smallbones".

Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:11, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Straight factual edit, thank you. (From a former COI holder.) -Pete Forsyth (talk) 16:21, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Disclosing my COI as well for changing the infobox once again. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 06:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Man, this article could really do with a rewrite. Oh well. jp×g 23:20, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Disclosing mine for this. jp×g 16:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

How is this a Good Article with so many references to Wikipedia? edit

Hello editors, I came across this good article and found over 15 citations to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost. While these can be used for minor things that are not contentious, much of the history section is soured entirely to Wikipedia Signpost. This is a huge violation of WP:PRIMARY, and WP:USERG. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 17:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

You should take a read of WP:ABOUTSELF. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I refuse to cite myself in mainspace but an update is necessary edit

  • Specific text to be added or removed: I have updated the history section in this diff, but have left the material commented out due to an obvious conflict of interest (I am the current editor-in-chief, and on top of that, one of the citations is to my own writing). While it is traditional for EiCs to add themselves to the infobox, this involves adding new prose to the article body, so I am requesting an edit out of an abundance of caution.
  • Reason for the change: Currently, the editorial history only goes up to 2015 -- much of the article is in bad shape, but this seemed quite obvious and straightforward. My guess is that any person who cares enough about the Signpost to update the article probably also cares enough to write for it, meaning we have a dire lack of qualified editors without conflicts of interest.
  • References supporting change: Numerous, although additional sources need to be found for a couple things that can currently only be referenced to talk pages. While citing the Signpost is within policy (per WP:ABOUTSELF), citing talk pages seems to be stretching the absolute limits of credibility, so I refuse to do it.

jp×g 16:37, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Without commenting on COI/OR/ABOUTSELF issues: This commented-out diff is inaccurate in parts and contradicts the timeline in the Signpost's official About page.
  • Go Phightins! would continue until August [2016], when the role was passed to Andreas Kolbe and Pete Forsyth. - the cited article doesn't say that regarding Andreas; to the contrary, the wording there makes it pretty clear that he had already been serving in that role ("delighted to welcome Pete Forsyth as my new co-editor-in-chief"); he had already become co-editor-in-chief in May 2016.
  • EpicPupper resigned in October 2022 (not September)
Also, we should avoid "currently ..." per WP:DATED.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

@HaeB: Yeah, well, now there's two of us down here with conflicts of interest! I guess trying to iron out the timeline is a harder task than I thought, so I shall retreat to the newsroom in ignominy and try to figure it out again. jp×g 05:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is extra-stupid, since I was the one who linked the dates in the About section too -- I am currently doing a review of all Signpost releases anyway, so I will get to all of this in due time (so far I have gotten to 2006). I didn't actually think anyone would respond to the edit request this soon, so I figured I had a couple days to wrangle in some proper citations and go over the dates again. Serves me right! jp×g 05:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
Edit request approved and implemented. SpencerT•C 21:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Signpost.news edit

My understanding (cc: JPxG) is that The Signpost is now published both on its Wikipedia URL and also on a standalone website. Is this correct and, if so, how should this standalone website be reflected in the infobox? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Graph of Wikipedia edit

I NEED a discussion of this most excellent video: Video on YouTube. Please link me to one :-) Cheers Video "I Made a Graph of Wikipedia... This Is What I Found" by adumb if it for some reason disappears. Cross posted from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 77#Graph of Wikipedia. CapnZapp (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply