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Request for information on WP1.0 web toolEdit

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Blog Networks are not Link FarmsEdit

A few years ago someone proposed combining the Blog Network article with the Link Farm article, which is completely inappropriate. Unfortunately I and other people who know the difference don't monitor the Link Farm page.

Link farms have nothing to do with blog networks and vice versa. By definition a link farm is merely a group of sites that all link to each other - from special "reciprocal links" pages or groups of such pages. The original link farm was called Buddy Links and the pages were manually created and sent out to members every week. Subsequent link farms were created through special software that pushed out the linking pages.

The original link farms did not violate search engine guidelines and were not intended as spam. They were used to keep pages indexed in highly volatile search indexes. Search engines like Google and Yahoo eventually updated their policies to forbid the practice and link farming died. The end of link farms came more because of abuse of the software creating them than because of the search engines' objections to them.

Blog networks used for linking intentionally do NOT link to each other. The commercial blog networks attempt to avoid detection by search engine algorithms by not reciprocating links among themselves. Private blog networks are harder to describe but many are created by "turnkey systems" that spit out a ton of blogs.

It is more appropriate to call them Private Linking Networks.

The PBNs/PLNs usually do not interlink with each other. The spammers instead inject links into hundreds or thousands of other sites to point to their network blogs. They may also submit the blogs to RSS directories and other directories for links.

I have not edited the article as I write this because the bad merger has been in place for so long. I'm leaving this comment and adding the page to my Watch list. If someone else wants to comment and offer a suggestion for how the blended article can be improved, I'm willing to consider that before proposing a new article be created.

I'd rather keep this as simple as possible but link farms and blog networks are about as closely related to each other as reindeer and mongooses. Michael Martinez (talk) 02:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Michael Martinez that a "blog network" is very different from a Link farm, and the pages should not have been merged. However, and this may be part of the challenge, it seems that I might have a different point of view. To me, a blog network is a network of different blog sites that are all affiliated under a single umbrella. The authors may choose to affiliate. Or a corporation or organization may create a network of blogs on different topics or subjects. To me, a "link farm" is a set of sites typically used now for creating links in an attempt to influence search engine rankings. Regardless of perspective, I do agree they are two different things. -Dyork (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps the solution has been sitting in front of us the whole time. The topics in this article fall under Spamdexing (not really a word used outside of Wikipedia but that's a whole different discussion). Why not merge this article into Spamdexing? That would be the simplest way to fix this problem. Michael Martinez (talk) 14:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Interesting idea, but I don't see "spamdexing" being in common enough usage in regular language to warrant a page. And I do think a "blog network" can in fact be a positive thing when used in certain contexts, and just the name "spamdexing" makes me immediately think negatively. I would not support merging them into a new "spamdexing" page. Dyork (talk) 22:44, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Verizon updates (5G)Edit

Hello! I posted requests at Talk:Verizon Wireless and Talk:Verizon Communications to update Verizon's 5G efforts. WikiProject Internet editors might wish to review. As I work for Verizon and have a conflict of interest, I ask others to look at my draft and make edits on my behalf. Thank you, VZEric (talk) 20:08, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done VZEric (talk) 16:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Internet SocietyEdit

Hi WikiProject Internet editors: I am looking for fresh eyes to review a request at Talk:Internet Society. I work at Internet Society, so I have a conflict of interest that I disclosed earlier this year. Since late last year, there has been some back-and-forth editing on the article and discussions on its talk page. I joined Wikipedia to be a resource to assist Wikipedia editors in bringing the article up-to-date. To start, I proposed updates for the article's Organization section because the section in the live article does not cite any references. I welcome collaboration and I am happy to edit my proposed draft to better meet Wikipedia's principles, practices and spirit.

Thank you. Neville at Internet Society (talk) 10:21, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I am among those who do not appreciate the Internet Society's PR team trying to whitewash and rewrite the article to remove important and relevant content. The current article could certainly be improved, but not be replacing it with the 'about' page of the Internet Society website. Ferdeline (talk) 20:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I would like to mention to volunteer editors who may read Ferdeline's accusations here and elsewhere on Wikipedia that what I would like to see is an encyclopedic entry about the Internet Society that not only presents an up-to-date picture of the organization with independent verifications to give credence to what is said, but also to do this via Talk pages in a manner that embraces and follows the policies, procedures, spirit and collaborative nature of volunteerism editing at Wikipedia. I want to do this in a transparent manner, hence openly asking the community to help complete this work. If volunteer editors decide my proposed content needs to be adjusted to better meet Wikipedia's style and rules, I am happy to collaborate in a manner that results in a better encyclopedia entry.
Thanks. Neville at Internet Society (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Search Engine PrivacyEdit

I wanted to bring to attention that the page for search engine privacy has yet to be graded in terms of quality and importance. I think it would benefit this project to review these guidelines for future editors. Breadyornot (talk) 18:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Link taxEdit

Hello, the article just describes the German case. Please add information about the linx tax regulations of Spain, the European Union and Canada. --NaBUru38 (talk) 19:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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