Talk:Maria Trubnikova

This article is a current featured article candidate. A featured article should exemplify Wikipedia's best work, and is therefore expected to meet the criteria.
Please feel free to leave comments.
After one of the FAC coordinators promotes the article or archives the nomination, a bot will update the nomination page and article talk page. Do not manually update the {{Article history}} template when the FAC closes.

Maria Trubnikova has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
January 12, 2024	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 11, 2024.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after dying in her daughter's arms in an asylum in 1897, Maria Trubnikova (pictured) was remembered as the "heart and soul" of feminist activism in Russia?

Women's History Low‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles

Feminism

	Feminism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Feminism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Feminism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FeminismWikipedia:WikiProject FeminismTemplate:WikiProject FeminismFeminism articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Russia

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

GA Review edit

Latest comment: 3 months ago7 comments2 people in discussion

This review is transcluded from Talk:Maria Trubnikova/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Shushugah (talk · contribs) 15:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Beginning review edit

Hello Ganesha811 thank you for reviewing so many Articles! I want to recognize that and look forward to reviewing your article. Please let me know if you're available to make improvements this week/month. I know It's busy holiday for many people, so I tend to keep this review open until 15 January 2024 if that works for you? Cheers! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for picking this up! I should have time beginning the 27th to respond to comments and make improvements. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

All three images are appropriately licensed and captioned

Please specify the country Russia when mentioning birth city, it is not obvious that Krai is in Russia (can wiki link to Russian Empire

Done - fixed.

Use full name for Princess Khovanskaia/Khovanskaya and perhaps the following painting File:Levitzky Khruscheva Khovanskaya.jpg

Partially done - added her initials, but I think the painting isn't relevant enough to be added, especially as it shows the Princess as a child, many years before Trubnikova was born.

More clarity is needed with this paragraph liberal sympathies, and took his name (in feminine form, Trubnikova). He wooed her, according to Stites, by "reading passages of Herzen" to her.

Specifically we don't learn why or what his liberal sympathies mean for her (it compliments her feminist views) and we should know that Stite is a historian/scholar. Similarly; Herzen is a contemporary radical Russian thinker.

Adjusted the sentence and the next few accordingly. Stites is mentioned earlier in the paragraph. Let me know if the changes are sufficient! —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Shushugah, thanks for your comments so far. Any others, as we approach the 15th? —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ganesha811 please WP:Trout me. I was searching for different sources with limited success, got sidetracked and distracted. Finishing it up.

I could not find the specific pages 584-587 in "A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms"^[1], but on page 527 it corroborates her involvement in 1861 in the Society for Cheap Lodging and Other Aid to the Residents of St Petersburg).
Confirmed sources found in (and added google book url for ease). I would however add caveat/explanation that she would be considered feminist in contemporary terms, but back then they were addressing the "woman question" (page 72) and progressive agendas. Also, ^[1] says she founded "Society for Cheap Lodging.." in 1861, while source^[2] clarifies it was founded in 1859 but chartered in 1861. I don't have strong opinion, but it shows a consistency despite two different years being used.

All in all, I will mark this GAN as Good Article status. It is strictly not required, but would be nice to make use of {{rp}} page templates to make it easier to find/verify specific source claims. And where possible, to link to google books, as many of these books are not available in the Wikipedia:Library, as well as include page ranges in general for entire book source that is used. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your review! I will make changes to account for these suggestions. You can likely access pages 584-87 in the source via the Internet Archive, if you make an account and borrow the book (for free). It's Trubnikova's own entry. I will make sure page numbers are available for all sources. —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

LEDE is focused and meaningfully summarizes most important elements of article
Body is engaging/relevant without any excessive details

References

^ ^a ^b Novikova, Natalia (2006). de Haan, Francisca; Daskalova, Krassimira; Loutfi, Anna (eds.). A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries. Central European University Press. pp. 584–587. ISBN 978-615-5053-72-6.
^ Ruthchild, Rochelle G. (2009). "Reframing public and private space in mid-nineteenth century Russia : the triumvirate of Anna Filosofova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Mariia Trubnikova". In Worobec, Christine D. (ed.). The human tradition in imperial Russia. The human tradition around the world. Lanham, Md.: Rowman & Littlefield. p. 69–83. ISBN 978-0-7425-3737-8.

Did you know nomination edit

Latest comment: 2 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

Trubnikova (unknown date)

... that after dying in her daughter's arms in an asylum in 1897, Maria Trubnikova (pictured) was remembered as the "heart and soul" of feminist activism in Russia? Source: Novikova, Natalia (2006). de Haan, Francisca; Daskalova, Krassimira; Loutfi, Anna (eds.). A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries Central European University Press. pp. 584–587. ISBN 978-615-5053-72-6. "...was then moved to the asylum in St. Petersburg...paid tribute... as the heart and soul of feminist projects in Russia..."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Child poverty in New Zealand
- Comment: If you create an account and borrow the book on archive.org, it should be fully viewable for free.

Improved to Good Article status by Ganesha811 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Maria Trubnikova; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good Article as of three days ago, easy choice. Appears to use the available sources quite well. Very interesting read, would love to see the image used (public domain). Kafoxe (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Add topic

[:1-1] Novikova, Natalia (2006). de Haan, Francisca; Daskalova, Krassimira; Loutfi, Anna (eds.). A Biographical Dictionary of Women's Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries. Central European University Press. pp. 584–587. ISBN 978-615-5053-72-6.

[:3-2] Ruthchild, Rochelle G. (2009). "Reframing public and private space in mid-nineteenth century Russia : the triumvirate of Anna Filosofova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Mariia Trubnikova". In Worobec, Christine D. (ed.). The human tradition in imperial Russia. The human tradition around the world. Lanham, Md.: Rowman & Littlefield. p. 69–83. ISBN 978-0-7425-3737-8.

[1]

[2]