Talk:London Olympics

Year

The date of the Olympics was listed as July 27-August 12 2008. I went ahead and changed it to 2012. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.43.57 (talk) 00:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Name

The current article name is London Olympics. I'm considering changing it to one of the following:

• British Olympics
• Olympic Games hosted by the United Kingdom
• Olympic Games in the United Kingdom

The first is a slight change and could incorporate details about the failed Manchester and Birmingham bids. The second could be more in line with other possible articles (Olympic Games hosted by France, for example). The last could incorporate details about British competitors and public reactions to the Games along with the content of the other two suggestions. All of these would detract from this article being details of the London games, but would allow for a wider content. Any input would be good. violet/riga (t) 00:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Olympic Games hosted by the United Kingdom would be the best. London/British Olympics makes it sound like an entirely different set of Olympics. ShadowMan1od 05:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with this proposal. I think the page currently acts well as halfway between a disambiguation page and an article. However, without its use as a disambiguation page, I don't think this aritcle would really warrent inclusion, as all the stuff is developed on the individual games' pages. Also, given that the Olympics is held by a city, not a country, any title inclduing British or United Kingdom would be factually incorrect Robdurbar 14:37, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

The way that a country reacts to the Olympic Games could be quite interesting. Do the British people like the Olympics or don't care about it at all? How has public reaction changed since we won the bid? I think the final suggestion has some great potential, not duplicating the individual Olympic articles any more than this one and including a wealth of other information. It could also link up to the British Olympic performance articles. violet/riga (t) 14:59, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

1908 Olymics - 4th or 5th?

The text refers to '(the Games of the IV Olympiad) were the fifth modern Olympic Games' - does anyone know why the fifth games were called the IV Olympiad - or is there a mistake? Thanks! Petesmiles 03:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

The discrepancy is due to the 1906 Summer Olympics, which were added between the 1904 Summer Olympics (Games of the III Olympiad) and the 1908 Summer Olympics (Games of the IV Olympiad). The International Olympic Committee does not recognize the 1906 Games as official Games, but many sources do count them (noting that they were sanctioned by the IOC at the time and, perhaps most importantly, did actually take place).

1. 1896 Summer Olympics - Games of the I Olympiad
2. 1900 Summer Olympics - Games of the II Olympiad
3. 1904 Summer Olympics - Games of the III Olympiad
4. 1906 Summer Olympics - not a 4-year Olympiad
5. 1908 Summer Olympics - Games of the IV Olympiad

Hope this helps! — Jonel | Speak 02:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

This is a pointless article

It should simply be a WP:Disambiguation page. jnestorius^(talk) 19:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree. The information is better placed elsewhere, e.g. United Kingdom at the Olympics. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 03:55, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I also agree. If I knew how to nominate it for deletion, I would!! Cantab12 (talk) 08:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 24 July 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: consensus to convert the article to a disambiguation page per the discussion below. I have done this myself, but details of the dab itself are editorial choices and not subject to this close; please feel free to improve the dab as necessary. Dekimasuよ! 08:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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London Olympics → London hosting the Olympic games – Schwed66 did the same move with Paris Olympics. Titles need to be consistent when appropriate. Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I've documented my rationale for that move at Talk:Paris hosting the Olympic Games. The Paris case was urgent as readers are currently looking for the "Paris Olympics". The London case is less urgent, hence a formal move request is appropriate. That request will also determine whether the new article title that I picked is the most appropriate. Schwede66 00:25, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I won't open an RFD while this is ongoing, but the current redirect of Paris Olympics to 2024 Summer Olympics is debatable. 162 etc. (talk) 16:32, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'll second that, we have 1900 Summer Olympics which could be confused, may need to assess the primary topic or make it a DAB. (although I'm just noticing that it was already at RfD ASUKITE 14:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, neutral although leaning oppose, as this may be a case for WP:RECENTISM. Paris is the exception for now as there is a current event, and likely should possibly revert back to the generic previous name once most readers move onto the next Olympics or one after. So the different circumstances can justify a temporary inconsistency. The current title of this page meets its context-disambiguation purpose right now, and 2012 is over a decade ago now. But if we have to move, would prefer London and the Olympics or London and the Olympic Games as it's a cleaner title IMO, and move Paris subsequently. DankJae 14:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support the move, with Convert London Olympics itself becoming a WP:DAB listing each alongside a hatnote pointing to the moved article. This is the straightforward approach recently taken for Salt Lake City Olympics. Frankly, I'm shocked Paris Olympics isn't being handled the same way and agree that its current outright redirect to 2024 Summer Olympics is questionable. --Tim Parenti (talk) 01:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Just noticed Los Angeles Olympics, Lake Placid Olympics, and Innsbruck Olympics, for example, have been WP:DAB pages for even longer, so there is some fairly strong precedent. --Tim Parenti (talk) 01:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Tim Parenti, this "article" is basically the DAB anyway, no sources, just each dab entry plus unnecessary unsourced sentences. Would make more sense to just trim this page into a DAB. DankJae 15:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  Not opposed to Support this alternate proposal (effectively blanking this page into a more standard, streamlined DAB) as it seems likely that any content here is already well-covered by the individual articles that it points to. That would mean, though, that Paris hosting the Olympic Games would be ripe for swift WP:PM or outright WP:AFD. (I am not presently aware of any similarly-situated articles for other multi-Olympic cities.) --Tim Parenti (talk) 16:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Just updated my vote as struckthrough above, to more fully support the better "trim and convert" path proposed, as this seems to be similar to the consensus forming at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 11#Paris Olympics, which is approaching a similar situation from a different direction. --Tim Parenti (talk) 01:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Trim and convert to disambiguation page per DankJae[1]. Celia Homeford (talk) 12:50, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Convert to dab page per others. Natg 19 (talk) 01:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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