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No talking on the talk pageEdit

So if you spot a talk page with a WikiProject Disambiguation banner but no other banners nor any actual discussion, what do you do with it? Is there a speedy deletion category for this? (cf. Talk:The Paramount). --GentlemanGhost (séance) 16:24, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

There are about 190,000 such pages. They are harmless and can be left as they are. I don't create such pages, but I often use the template as a placeholder to replace wikitext such as a redirect that is no longer appropriate. Certes (talk) 19:17, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
I always create them if missing. I'm guessing IP editors can't discuss without them being created already, plus there may be other utility? e.g. dab conversion to SIA etc (or vice versa) so clarifies the type. Widefox; talk 23:56, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Anyone, anonymous or not, can create talk pages. – Uanfala (talk) 01:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
I see. I wasn't aware of the two previous discussions on not creating them (below). As I use the WP:Metadata gadget, missing project banners are very visible for me, and I add them without visiting or even noticing the page existence. There's also a number of dabs with more than one project banner, but still blank, which I presume there's consensus to keep, e.g. Talk:Crab (disambiguation). I'm still leaning towards blank ones being useful, to encourage other projects to template and to lower the barrier for discussion per WP:5P4. I can see it both ways as the vast majority serve no purpose, but do no harm. Widefox; talk 11:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
What should be tidied up, not necessarily by deleting the talk page, is this banner on the talk page of an page that's not a dab. Currently there seem to be none. Certes (talk) 00:21, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
@Certes:, the current version of Petscan erroneously returns 0 results for searches that involve a WikiProject Banner (or perhaps for any searches that involve a talk page). With the previous version of Petscan there are 24222 page with the Disambiguation banner that aren't disambiguation pages; the majority are redirects. Plantdrew (talk) 01:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. I thought it unlikely that no one has ever added (or failed to remove) the banner by mistake! 10407 talk pages of articles (mainspace pages excluding redirects and dabs) have the banner, either alone or within a wrapper such as {{WikiProject banner shell}}. I suppose a bot could remove the banners but it's not our most pressing task. Also, some examples such as Bunsen might sensibly be turned into dabs instead. Certes (talk) 12:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
  • The premise is that talk pages containing only {{WikiProject Disambiguation}} should not be created. This is documented on the template's page (which links to the discussions behind this consensus), but in short, the reason is they don't serve any purpose (article tracking is done directly via the dab template on the dab page itself), and they're an inconvenience in the long run. However, once they're created, it's a waste of time to try and delete them individually. Ideally, some day we'll get a bot to delete them all in one go, but I don't think anyone is likely to be concerned enough to get the ball rolling anytime soon. – Uanfala (talk) 01:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Well, I'm glad I read this discussion because I have been creating those pages without being aware of the earlier consensus to not do so. I'll certainly stop doing that now, but if anyone would like to trout me, I'll take my medicine.—ShelfSkewed Talk 02:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Me too, I had to idea! Leschnei (talk) 00:17, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Hatnote for Isaac Asimov's pseudonymEdit

Hi, I wish to place a hatnote on Paul French (author) concerning the pen name used by Isaac Asimov for his six novels collectively known as the Lucky Starr series. These are my ideas:

Which would be best? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Is the 1966 author even the primary topic for the partial dab? The article is suspected to be an autobiography. Perhaps it should be renamed Paul French (author, born 1966) or Paul French (British author), and the current title become a {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} to Paul French. Paul Comly French is also a published author. Certes (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
I prefer the hat note to Isaac Asimov, in case someone is searching for Paul French author of that series of books. The redirect should be to the author. --Prairieplant (talk) 09:03, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Main usage of 'Christ'Edit

Participants in this WikiProject may be interested to discuss the main usage of Christ at Talk:Christ (disambiguation)#Main usage. Cnilep (talk) 02:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

UTSA primary topic?Edit

UTSA started life as a redirect to University of Texas at San Antonio, and has gone back and forth a couple times between the redirect and a disambiguation page. In order to prevent edit warring, I have proposed University of Texas at San Antonio as the primary topic with UTSA (disambiguation) being the disambiguation page. Please add your comments/opinions Talk:UTSA. Leschnei (talk) 14:21, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

OPDSEdit

I would welcome a second opinion (or bold fix) on OPDS (Disambiguation) (note uppercase D). It seems to list one article (Open Publication Distribution System), a term used in a few articles but not described anywhere (Offshore Petroleum Discharge System) and an initialism not mentioned in Public defender (United States). OPDS has been deleted. Do we just move the dab to the base name, or should OPDS redirect to Open Publication Distribution System? Certes (talk) 11:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Certes: I found an article for Offshore Petroleum Distribution System (nb not "Discharge"); moved the dab page to OPDS; created an INTDAB link at OPDS (disambiguation); and while I'm here sent the redirect O-PDS to RFD!. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:54, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Shhhnotsoloud. Distribution sounds more productive than discharge, and better for the environment too! I've tidied a few loose ends such as lining OPDS (Disambiguation) (disambiguation) up against the wall. Certes (talk) 18:29, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
The reference to Public defender (United States) was because a web search for "OPDS" finds that way before it finds Open Publication Distribution System. Apparently the term is a common abbreviation for the "Office of Public Defense Services" at least in Oregon (though there are some hits from Maricopa County, AZ as well). It should probably have been added to the article instead of removed from the dab. —Uzume (talk) 22:21, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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