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As expected, monkeys and great ape species such as orangutans can also be infected with the COVID‑19 virus.[1]
Providing reliable sources
editAs written, this either excludes lesser apes or else includes great apes twice over (cf the opening paragraph of monkey), which is odd either way. What the ref actually says is
The findings on ferrets, orangutans, and monkeys showed a higher affinity of ACE2 with the RBD domain of SARS-CoV-2 S protein [1].
That citation in turn says the following:
2019-nCoV RBD likely recognizes ACE2 from pigs, ferrets, cats, orangutans, monkeys, and humans with similar efficiencies, because these ACE2 molecules are identical or similar in the critical virus-binding residues.
[...]
Pigs, ferrets, cats, and nonhuman primates contain largely favorable 2019-nCoV-contacting residues in their ACE2 and hence may serve as animal models or intermediate hosts for 2019-nCoV.
However, the previous paragraph of § Other species disagrees about pigs in particular:
The virus does not appear to be able to infect pigs, ducks, or chickens at all.[2]
Again ref plus secondary citation:
However, Shi et al. reported that ferrets and cats were highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, while dogs had a low susceptibility and livestock including pigs, chickens, and ducks were not susceptible to the virus, under experimental conditions [2].
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- Dogs appeared not to support viral replication well and had low susceptibility to the virus, and pigs, chickens, and ducks were not susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.
- [...]
- We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but ferrets and cats are permissive to infection.
- [...]
- We also investigated the susceptibility of pigs, chickens, and ducks to SARS-CoV-2 by using the same strategy as that used to assess dogs. However, viral RNA was not detected in any swabs collected from these virus-inoculated animals or from naïve contact animals (Table 1). In addition, all of these animals were seronegative for SARS-CoV-2 when tested by ELISA with sera collected on day 14 p.i. (Table 1). These results indicate that pigs, chickens, and ducks are not susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.
- In summary, we found that ferrets and cats are highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2; dogs have low susceptibility; and pigs, chickens, and ducks are not susceptible to the virus.
Generally, translating some of the refs' protein-level results into organism-level claims like "can be infected" seems suspect.
Mentioning the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format
editMaybe put an OR tag on the section?
Specifically, suggest changing
As expected, monkeys and great ape species such as orangutans can also be infected with the COVID‑19 virus.
to
Orangutans and other primates may also be vulnerable to COVID‑19 infection.
at minimum.
- 2A02:560:59A1:EF00:BD31:F556:FA77:6F84 (talk) 16:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 15:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Added subheadings to the OP to clarify where it's suggesting changes and where it's discussing sources. - 2A02:560:59A1:EF00:BD31:F556:FA77:6F84 (talk) 16:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
References
- Not done: Per above. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Ref. #298. A typo in the title of the publication
editRef. #298. A typo in the title of the publication. It should be:
Baranovskii DS, Klabukov ID, Krasilnikova OA, Nikogosov DA, Polekhina NV, Baranovskaia DR, et al. (2021). "Prolonged prothrombin time as an early prognostic indicator of severe acute respiratory distress syndrome in patients with COVID-19 related pneumonia". Current Medical Research and Opinion. 37 (1): 21–25. Biosurgeon (talk) 08:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Biosurgeon, I have corrected the reference. Please double check to see if that is what you wanted. Best, X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 02:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! However, I noticed that the title of the journal was also mistyped. It should be: Current Medical Research and Opinion instead of American Journal of Physiology. Biosurgeon (talk) 05:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Amended. Thanks for pointing these out Biosurgeon, good to have people like you that have an eye for detail. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 21:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! However, I noticed that the title of the journal was also mistyped. It should be: Current Medical Research and Opinion instead of American Journal of Physiology. Biosurgeon (talk) 05:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- E 176.44.52.151 (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Broken hyperlink on reference 22: "Post-COVID Conditions"
editLink redirects to CDC 404. I believe this is the updated document: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/. Highac3s (talk) 19:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Free sources for Wikipedians
editWikipedia:The Wikipedia Library has a partnership with Wiley (publisher) to get access to many of their textbooks and journals, including some medical school textbooks, at no charge to editors. If you are looking for good sources, please consider this one:
- Gholamrezanezhad, Ali; Dube, Michael P., eds. (2023-01-06). Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID‐19): A Clinical Guide (1 ed.). Wiley. doi:10.1002/9781119789741. ISBN 978-1-119-78968-0.
Eligible editors will need to login at https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/. Under "My Collections", almost at the end of the page, find the box for Wiley. Click on the blue "Access collection" button. That will take you to the Wiley search page.
Put the title of the book into the main search box. The default search result is "Articles & Chapters", but you want the "Publications" tab. Click on the search result for the book, and then decide whether you want to download the whole book at once (huge file) or to pick and choose individual chapters instead (e.g., "COVID-19: Presentation and Symptomatology (Pages: 125-148)" or "Mental Health Effects of the COVID-19 Pandemic on Healthcare Professionals (Pages: 554-579)").
This medical school textbook sells for about US$100, so using TWL can save you a lot of money. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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