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Hi and thanks for everyone's contributions!  :-) A group of us are endeavoring to create a new Gangster film article to replace the overly-narrow Mob film. If anyone is so inclined, please feel free lend a hand, either with content or feedback. Thanks again Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 00:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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...on current editing on Aryan Brotherhood. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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Category name's spelling mistake

Hi. I found a spelling mistake in a category name. I explained it here. Feel free - obviously - to check if I'm saying the truth. Thank you. 95.253.203.9 (talk) 09:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks for coming to the talkpage. I don't know Italian so I'll ping Jmabel, one of our Italian-to-English translators, to help us. Jmabel, are you able to confirm the message above? Many thanks, MX (✉ • ✎) 14:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
• 95.253.203.9 is certainly correct about formal Italian; I'm not sure he's right about the (presumably more relevant) Sicilian & Neopolitan dialects. Certainly Mario Puzo in his Godfather novels does not use the i here, but I am certainly in no place to say whether that is an error on his part or a matter of dialect. I'm afraid you need to follow this up with a native speaker, preferably one from the relevant region. - Jmabel | Talk 16:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
• @95.253.203.9, MX, and Jmabel: The article Capo dei capi spells it as capi di tutti i capi. I am not sure about renaming the category though. Maybe we can/should move it to Capo dei capi as common name, and that way, we wouldnt have doubt for the mistake either. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:35, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

• Support: I like the idea of moving the category's name to something we know is spelled correctly. MX (✉ • ✎) 20:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, we should have some consistency either as the common name using "dei" (if that is what is established as common), or the correct way by the rules of the language with "i"; the article name and the category name should be the same. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 21:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for the interest shown to my alert. Correct italian is "capo di tutti i capi", and I don't think that your spelling can be classified as a dialect one, because every single word is in italian; if it was a dialect sintax, it would have also dialect words. But I don't know sicilian dialect nor neapolitan one, nor these novels you speak about. By the way, if I remember correctly I'm the one who recently fixed the sentence "capo di tutti i capi" which Usernamekiran talks about, so that's not a proof. Theorically it could be just as wrong as my alert (but they're not). Changing the name of the category in "capi dei capi" is a good solution, too. 95.253.203.9 (talk) 06:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me, but a month has passed and the category still has the spelling mistake. 95.253.203.9 (talk) 10:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• @95.253.203.9: Thank you for coming here again. I've fixed the issue, I think. Please check and let me know. MX (✉ • ✎) 16:29, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Now the spelling is correct. Nice work! And I'm happy to have been useful.
I would like to know why the misspelled category still exists, even if it's a redirect. What is its meaning? I know this is not related to the project, so maybe you can answer on my talk page. 95.253.203.9 (talk) 12:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you for your help! I'm glad we sorted this thing out.

We could potentially delete the redirect, but I'm not an administrator so I cannot do it. Leaving redirects can be useful when readers search under alternative names, see Wikipedia:Redirect. I personally made sure to fix the categories of the articles linked in this section so they don't appear as redirects. MX (✉ • ✎) 13:10, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

RoC: New article "Raynald Desjardins"

Hi all, thanks for everyone's contributions! Please see my article intended for submission on Raynald Desjardins. Feel free to contribute as you see fit. Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 21:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

State & City gang categories

Hello, I'm in the process of cleaning up some of the categorization for US gang articles. Some have a number of city and state categories with either no reference or only passing references in the article. For an extreme example of WP:NONDEFINING see the history] of the Tiny Rascal Gang article.

If you have any feedback/corrections/suggestions, just ping me here on my talk page. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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This article - along with the articles about the terrorist groups which were belligerents in it, the attacks they committed & the then-active members of those groups - easily fit this project's criteria due to them being strongly terrorist-related. However, the banner was removed from Talk:The Troubles, with the claim that conflict had little to do with organised crime. Jim Michael (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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Simplify categories?

Can someone study the structure of organized crime categories and simplify them?

First, the "By nation" section of the article on Organized crime contains links to articles on organized crime in 27 different nations, if I've counted correctly. All but two are actual article. Only the entries for Canada and the United States are categories. Shouldn't they be complete overview articles, as the others are?

Second, Category:Organized crime in the United States seems to have too many levels in a hierarchy of categories.

In particular, the category Category:Organized crime in the United States by ethnicity includes Category:Organized crime groups in the United States by ethnicity. I don't understand how a "category:organized crime groups" category is sufficiently different from a "category:organized crime" without the word "groups" to justify that separate level of categorization. Shouldn't pairs like that be combined? If no, shouldn't there be something to remind naive readers of the difference. I suppose there could be a difference, but sometimes, differences like that seem so subtle that attempts to make such distinctions end up adding more confusion than clarity, I think. I could be mistaken, but that was my reaction in tracing what seemed to me to be a path that would have been easier for people to use if it had been simpler.

Third, I was trying to add The Purple Gang to this list. There's a Category:Jewish-American gangs. Isn't that redundant with Category:Jewish-American organized crime groups? Shouldn't those two be combined?

Thanks for your contributions to the Wikipedia:Prime objective. DavidMCEddy (talk) 10:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion on Black Market: is it the same thing as illicit trade?

There is an ongoing discussion on the talk page on Black market on whether it is the same topic as illicit trade. An editor, who is of the opinion that it is a duplicate topic, has converted the article that I created on illicit trade into a redirect to black market.   The latest version of the illicit trade article can be found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Illicit_trade&oldid=974366109 One way or another, I think that the relationship between these two topics needs to be clarified, and your contribution to the discussion would be much appreciated. For the sake of transparency, I will mention that I cite one source that I authored in the article and that I work for a technology company in anti-counterfeiting, though I do not think that I have a COI related to this article. Factfox (talk) 13:36, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Crime types and other topics

Totally new to Wikipedia editing, so apologies in advance for anything stupid, done wrong, etc.

I'm interested to see here that the focus under the Org. Crime heading is all crime groups rather than crime types. Why not links to human trafficking, arms trafficking, etc?

Also, interested to see no links on OC governance - e.g. UN Transnational Organized Crime Convention, for example, which has its 10th anniversary this year.

Unless I've misunderstood the purpose of a Wikiproject, which is more than possible and if so very sorry, I feel like the scope could really be expanded here.

TOC24 (talk) 16:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Defining "organised crime", Part II: Terrorism

See above #Defining "organised crime" section. User:Usernamekiran has been running a bot recently. At Wikipedia:WikiProject Organized crime/Bot tagging categories#Organizations_designated_as_terrorist, they've included various subcategories of terrorism as appropriate to add to this project (although apparently are unsure whether that's a wise idea themselves? Would appreciate your input on this. ;-) ).

In my opinion, this is a bleeding of project scope. Terrorism and organized crime aren't the same thing. While terrorism is, strictly, criminal, it is violence done for a political motive (or other ideology, e.g. religious, nationalistic, etc.). Organized crime almost always refers to organizations that exist to make money, albeit through illicit and illegal means. When that line gets blurred, and a banned organization genuinely acts as a "local protection" organization, they're usually referred to as paramilitaries or militias or the like.

Since there's not a ton of activity on this project, I can see a potential to perhaps merge this project with Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism, and that would be fine, of course. But as is, these categories aren't appropriate to be included, IMO. "Terrorism" should be removed as a topic from this Wikiproject - in the rare cases where there is overlap (e.g. drug-runners who also work with the Taliban or the like), then sure, but there should be a clear "normal" organized crime connection, not just a terrorist one. SnowFire (talk) 19:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Please please don't merge them. It does a disservice to the amazingly rich topic of OC research itself. Also agree that the overlap between crime and terrorism is limited in the group sense. I'll go find some of my friends and fellow researchers who would be happy to contribute to strengthening the project, and are super passionate about it. TOC24 (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

The projects shouldn't be merged, because a lot of OC isn't terrorist & there are terrorists such as lone wolves who aren't organised. Terrorist groups are mentioned in the second sentence of organized crime, so it doesn't make sense to exclude them from this project's scope - especially as they've long been within its scope. Overlap of terrorism & other forms of organised crime is far from rare - many terrorist groups are heavily involved in armed robberies &/or the illegal drug trade as a means of funding their organisations. It's also common for terrorist groups to buy their weapons illegally from organised, non-political gangs. Jim Michael (talk) 01:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

TOC24: Merging was one proposal, but I suppose I should have updated this since - Usernamekiran removed terrorism from the wikiproject scope in this edit. I'd be fine with two separate projects, I'd be fine with merging, I didn't think it made sense for both WP:OC and WP:Terrorism to claim to be covering terrorism simultaneously (barring cases of organized crime working for terrorist organizations, or organized crime members who become terrorists, etc.).

Jim Michael: So sure, where there's an overlap, stick it in both projects. When there isn't an overlap, then stick it in the relevant one. The problem with the old setup was that it claimed that they're actually the same thing, which is not really correct IMO. SnowFire (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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Larry Lawton

I completely re-wrote the article since the original was read like promotional material and opened up a peer review. He talks about being a mafia associate on his youtube channel and book and if there is a third party source that discusses that, it should be included. The Sun Sentinel says he was an "enforcer" in his early days for the Gambinos, but don't go into detail about what that means. Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nefarious: Merchant of Souls FAR

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Feedback request about "Milieu" / "organized crime in France"

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Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

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Soliciting feedback on my first draft for an article on organized crime figures

Draft in question: Draft:Campbell brothers (criminal duo)

I need help figuring out draft for an article on an organized crime figures (I have never written an organized crime figure's biography, so I am requesting advice from y'all)

I am hoping for someone to give me feedback on the neutrality of this draft and whether it has any suitability to be developed for the article space.

I have created this draft on a criminal duo. I have found it to be well-established that the two individuals were indeed a criminal duo. The criminality included in this draft is notable and well-sourced. The criminal incidents covered were regular front-page news articles in their days (each matter receiving frequent front-page stories about the development of investigations, trials, appeals, etc.).

The criminal due is noteworthy.

However, I want to practice caution and seek feedback. This is the first article that I have created on an organized crime figure, so I am very unsure how to address the matter of objectivity/neutrality. If you are going to be objective about someone who was an organized crime figure, generally the end result would be unflattering to them by virtue of their heavy involvement in criminal enterprise, right?

I'm wanting to take extra caution because:
1) My unfamiliarity with writing articles on organized crime figures
2) The fact that one of the two Campbell brothers (Alvin Campbell) is the birth father of Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Campbell. I would hate to be misguided in what I created and have it be mis-perceived as me attempting to create an article to detract Ms. Campbell (who, I will note, is mentioned very little in this draft). SecretName101 (talk) 23:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Is anyone interested in providing assistance? Soliciting help SecretName101 (talk) 20:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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