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Requested moves

• 08 Nov 2024 – Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Zia-ul-Haq by SheriffIsInTown (t · c); see discussion
• 08 Nov 2024 – Death of Abdul Wahid (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Killing of Abdul Wahid by मल्ल (t · c); see discussion
• 08 Nov 2024 – Daisy Eris Campbell (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Daisy Campbell (writer) by JuniperChill (t · c); see discussion
• 08 Nov 2024 – Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Killing of Khaled Mohamed Saeed by मल्ल (t · c); see discussion
• 07 Nov 2024 – Tomislav of Croatia (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Tomislav, King of Croatia by AndrewPeterT (t · c); see discussion
• 07 Nov 2024 – Domagoj of Croatia (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Domagoj, Duke of Croatia by AndrewPeterT (t · c); see discussion
• 07 Nov 2024 – Branimir of Croatia (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Branimir, Duke of Croatia by AndrewPeterT (t · c); see discussion
• 06 Nov 2024 – Danielle Valore Evans (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Danielle Evans by Roman Spinner (t · c); see discussion
• 05 Nov 2024 – Constance of Aragon (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Constance of Aragon, Holy Roman Empress by Srnec (t · c); see discussion
• 04 Nov 2024 – Prince Emil of Hesse and by Rhine (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Prince Emil of Hesse by AndrewPeterT (t · c); see discussion

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living/blp parameter in template

This is to inform you about some developments in how the living parameter has been changing in your project banner. As the banner shell is now used on every article, it is no longer necessary to add living, or activepol or blpo to {{WikiProject Biography}}. These parameters are all accepted by the banner shell and can safely be removed from other templates. At the same time we thought we would check if these parameters and notices still fit the needs of the project, or if any other options were required? Also, we are considering a simplification so that instead of |living=yes and |activepol=yes we could just use something like |blp=activepol. If anyone has any opinions, please join the thread at Template talk:WikiProject banner shell#Why we should choose between blp or living — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Is anyone interested in this? In fact, is anyone still watching this page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for George W. Bush

George W. Bush has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 18:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Cosimo III de' Medici

Cosimo III de' Medici has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 18:15, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Robin Williams

Hello. There's a discussion regarding a potential FA push for Robin Williams. It can be found at Talk:Robin Williams#FA plans?. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2024

Women in Red | October 2024, Volume 10, Issue 10, Numbers 293, 294, 318, 319, 320 Online events: New: Women in STEM | Geofocus: Islands I-P | Women in archaeology Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities October is Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" Good Article Edit-a-thon Tip of the month: Unsure how to expand a stub article? Take a look at this guidance Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Lajmmoore (talk 08:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Brad Womack nominated for deletion

The following link has been relisted just now: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brad Womack. Your input there is welcome. George Ho (talk) 22:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

FAR for Rudolf Vrba

I have nominated Rudolf Vrba for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 18:57, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Aerosmith

Aerosmith has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 19:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Xavier Johnson#Requested move 29 September 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Xavier Johnson#Requested move 29 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Web-julio (talk) 03:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:França#Requested move 6 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:França#Requested move 6 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Benjamin Abalos Jr.#Requested move 2 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Benjamin Abalos Jr.#Requested move 2 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 00:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

MOS and extent of coverage about family members

There is currently a disagreement over the extent of coverage about family tree in the lede in an individual's page Talk:Jack_Schlossberg#NPOV_and_due_weight_issues. I have checked several random biography pages listed as Good Article and didn't come across articles covering family like this in the lede. The edit in disagreement is Special:Diff/1249973757. In biography articles about individuals, is it customary to go over family pedigree like this in the lede section? Graywalls (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Joan Crawford

Joan Crawford has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Dear Rabbi Ginsberg, I received your cake of blessing for a good year. I am lighting a candle for your New Year blessing. I thank you. I believe you knew my father Vendyl Jones. Truth is a hard road and my prayers are with you.

Sarah Richardson A humble(within) servant of Hashem 2A02:14F:1EC:5FAB:0:0:9B48:1249 (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Article for Deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rina Lipa

There is an article for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rina Lipa that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Ckfasdf (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

UK nationalities

Can someone point me to the bit of guidance around how you describe the nationality of someone from the United Kingdom or one of its component countries i.e. British vs. English vs. Scottish vs. Welsh? I know it exists I'm just struggling to find it. Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Kekal

Kekal has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Kelvin Tan

Kelvin Tan has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:35, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Matt Byrne

Matt Byrne has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

David Lammy

There is a current RFC at Talk:David Lammy#RfC: First sentence which is discussing how the subject should be described. Editors are invited to participate. TarnishedPath^talk 14:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Ahmad Hasan Dani

Ahmad Hasan Dani has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Request for Assistance with Article on Mohiuddin Ahmed

Hello WikiProject members,

I am seeking assistance in improving the article on Mohiuddin Ahmed, a key figure in the Bangladesh Liberation War and a former senior diplomat. The article is currently facing a deletion discussion, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance to ensure it meets Wikipedia's standards. Below are some links to credible sources where Mohiuddin Ahmed's contributions have been highlighted:

Mohiuddin Ahmed: That Spirit of Trafalgar Square: This article reflects on Mohiuddin Ahmed’s defection at Trafalgar Square during the Liberation War and his role in mobilizing the international community.

Mohiuddin Ahmed, first diplomat in Europe to pledge allegiance to Bangladesh in 1971, dies aged 80: Coverage of Mohiuddin Ahmed’s defection and legacy as a diplomat.

Ex-secretary Mohiuddin Ahmed dies: Dhaka Tribune article on his death, mentioning his extensive diplomatic career and his significant contributions to Bangladesh’s foreign service.

Eminent diplomat Mohiuddin Ahmed dies: This article in New Age discusses his defection and his later contributions as a diplomat.

Fearless Diplomat Mohiuddin Ahmed: A tribute to Mohiuddin Ahmed, covering his role as a freedom fighter and diplomat.

Mohiuddin Ahmed no more: This article in The Business Standard highlights his career, mentioning his service in various key diplomatic roles across the globe.

Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen mourns passing of Mohiuddin Ahmed: This article includes statements from Bangladesh’s foreign minister, recognizing Mohiuddin Ahmed’s contributions to the nation.

These links highlight his pivotal role in the Bangladesh Liberation War and his post-war diplomatic career. I would appreciate any help with reviewing the article to ensure it meets Wikipedia’s standards for notability and verifiability.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your assistance.

J1477 (talk) 16:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

This COI user has been blocked for WP:FORUMSHOP. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:John Reilly (actor, born 1934)#Requested move 7 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:John Reilly (actor, born 1934)#Requested move 7 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Juan Fageda#Requested move 5 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Juan Fageda#Requested move 5 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Drawings in place of photos

See Grace E. Pickford, and Vonda N. McIntyre (before I removed it). I get it, there's no photo of these people but are these drawings really okay to use. If it was an approved drawing by the article's subject or otherwise well-known drawing, or by a famous artist but this is just someone drew it and uploaded it to Commons. Mika1h (talk) 10:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

THese look like fairground characatures, no they are not OK, find better pictures. Slatersteven (talk) 10:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

https://oiss.yale.edu/women-at-yale-50-150/grace-evelyn-pickford-united-kingdom

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/obituaries/vonda-n-mcintyre-dead.html

Did not even take long. Slatersteven (talk) 10:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Christine and the Queens#Requested move 26 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Christine and the Queens#Requested move 26 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Web-julio (talk) 00:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red November 2024

Women in Red | November 2024, Vol 10, Issue 11, Nos 293, 294, 321, 322, 323 Online events: New: Asian women | Geofocus: Islands Q-Z | Women in engineering Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities Annual Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM) is an online campaign designed to boost Asian content on Wikipedia each November. Unreferenced articles backlog drive. These Wikiproject clean-up lists offer a start to November's backlog drive, e.g. Women's History and Women writers Tip of the month: Looking for an image? Sometimes you can find openly licensed images at search.creativecommons.org/ Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Lajmmoore (talk 20:44, 29 October 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Good article reassessment for Andrew Fisher

Andrew Fisher has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 12:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Abigail Williams#Requested move 23 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Abigail Williams#Requested move 23 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 19:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Vyacheslav Molotov

Vyacheslav Molotov has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:16, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Robert Roberson case#Requested move 26 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robert Roberson case#Requested move 26 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 17:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Amon Tobin

Amon Tobin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for John D. Rockefeller

John D. Rockefeller has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Aneurin Bevan

Aneurin Bevan has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Haile Selassie

Haile Selassie has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:36, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Do WP:BIO guidelines exist?

Hi. Can someone tell me if WikiProject Biography has any guidelines? (I come from a city article that has clear guidelines at WP:USCITIES.)

Today I looked at the Donald Trump article and was dismayed to find his §Personal life featured first. That seems a tad disrespectful. I realize that article has seen extended controversy and so I don't want to rock the boat there, and decided to ask you instead.

I have read much of the archives on "Personal life" and can see individuals arguing on and on. The biographies I've written always start with §Early life, and sometimes §Early life and family or §Early life, family, and education. Your assessment section offers Mary Shelley as exemplar for a featured article. The linked version there begins with §Biography (to which I object). But then I looked at the live version which has been fixed to start §Life and career.

Might I suggest that some guideline would help? MOS:BIO is a good start but doesn't ever get past nomenclature. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)