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Kudos!

Hey Zoolver,

I just wanted to commend you for writing the articles "Dickeye", "My Song", and "Angel Eyes". At some point, I was hoping to find the time to write one for "My Song". Thanks for doing that. Let me know if you think it's possible to write one for Jerry's first single "Leave Me Alone" from The Cable Guy soundtrack. Shaneymike (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Leave Me Alone

Here's a link to use in case you ever have the time to write an article for "Leave Me Alone" by Jerry Cantrell: Original Soundtrack - The Cable Guy ("Jerry Cantrell's contribution rocks as hard as any Alice in Chains track") Shaneymike (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm gonna create that article soon. Zoolver (talk) 05:32, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Check My Brain

The release date has been corrected on Polish Wikipedia. Source too. Mike89 (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Re. Heaven Beside You

Seeing as you're active on articles relating to Alice in Chains, I thought you might be of some assistance.

As you know, the infobox for "Heaven Beside You" lists the song's genre exclusively as alternative rock (which is accurate, reliably sourced, and should be retained), yet it does not mention grunge anywhere. While this might be a bit nitpicky on my part, Alice in Chains has always been strongly associated with the Seattle music scene of the time, and thus I feel that all of their output from the Layne Staley era—be it metal or acoustic—should be classified as such wherever possible. In looking through the article's history, I noticed that you (correctly) reverted an edit a few months ago that replaced the "alternative rock" label with "grunge"; the editor had used a citation that did not explicitly refer to the song as being of the genre. So I decided to try and look for a more applicable source, but unfortunately, I came up completely empty-handed. Based on what I can infer, I would hazard a guess that you also have searched for such a reference, and couldn't find anything either. Otherwise, do you know where I might find more luck?

I've posted at the article's talk page about it, but considering the amount of traffic it generates (i.e. none), I'm not expecting a response anytime soon. I'm thinking about posting at the reference desk to see if anyone there would be able to suggest some potential sources.

Your input would be appreciated. Kurtis ^(talk) 06:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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I'm a guy of reason. I don't own pages. I just wanted you to tell me what was wrong with my edit. Now that you've done that, you're fine. dannymusiceditor ^oops 21:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

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Revert on cotillard page

Hi Zoolver, Could you help me understand why you reverted my corrections on Marion Cotillard page. I have changed it back so that the information is correct again. Thank you. --Cotillardq (talk) 17:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cotillardq: Her brother's personal life is not relevant for her article and you didn't provide reliable sources about it anyway. The same about removing her mother's Kabyle ancestry which is sourced and you didn't provide another source stating the opposite. Zoolver (talk) 01:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC).

@Zoolver: I agree the brother's personal life is not relevant but the information you are reverting to includes inaccurate information about their personal life. The information provided is more accurate than the tabloid magazine used to provide the erroneous information. But to make both of us happy I have removed both my corrections and the incorrect information you reverted to. The Kabyle ancestry is also inaccurate and there is no better source than me to confirm it as it would make me of Kabyle ancestry as well which I am not. I have nothing against Kabyle ancestry but I would like my family information to be accurate. Thank you.Cotillardq (talk) 13:10, 9 February 2021 (UTC).

@Cotillardq: Are you really related to Marion Cotillard? This is WP:COIEDIT. You shouldn't even be using her last name in your account much less using it to edit her article if you are related to her. This is against the rules. Zoolver (talk) 07:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

@Zoolver: Yes I am related to her. I'm sorry I do not know all the rules of wikipedia but thank you for bringing it to my attention. I will do my best to follow them going forward. Now that being said the last name is mine as well so I don't think I am in violation of any rules WP:U. The correction I am trying to provide are inaccuracies created by unreliable and inaccurate tabloid sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gala_(magazine) WP:PUS. Please let me know if my edits are acceptable as is or if you would prefer that I submit them through an Edit requestsWP:ER.Cotillardq (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

Cássia Eller

Please have a look at WP:SUBCAT. Rathfelder (talk) 22:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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Ways to improve La Vengeance au Triple Galop

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May Calamawy

Hi @Zoolver: - I saw your reversion of my edits on May Calamawy's page.[1] I've started discussion on her talk page because the sources provided are actually not that consistent on how to describe her background. WP:ETHNICITY and WP:BIOLEAD state that the lede should mention the subjects nationality/citizen or the country where the subject is a permanent resident. But the sources provided do not appear to explicitly specify her nationality/citizenship situation, and given the details of her birth, upbringing and where is notable as an actress now, well I'm not sure I agree with describing her as "Egyptian-Palestinian". Clear Looking Glass (talk) 00:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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Big Fat Lie (song)

I am going to continue to remove incorrect and unsubstantiated information as long as I live. If you object the answer is to add the information to ensure that readers and not pointed towards non-existant information. I do not dispute what you say is correct, I dispute that it is either necessary or WP:V. Are you going to continue to point readers to dead ends? Richhoncho (talk) 23:02, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I can see that you're very proud of insisting on making the same mistake, refusing to admit that you're wrong and blatantly lying FOR YEARS ON END no matter how many times you're asked to read the target article and check the sources in it to confirm what they say. For TWO YEARS I've been asking you to check the target pages and the sources and you keep ignoring it, and for what? It's useless to argue with you. Go troll someone else! Bye! Zoolver (talk) 03:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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The entire content of this link (https://www.kftv.com/news/2022/05/13/cannes-case-study-how-lofty-nathans-harka-filmed-in-tunisia-amid-protests) is literally copied and pasted from the original Screen Daily article (https://www.screendaily.com/features/harka-producer-julie-viez-on-the-cannes-titles-exhilarating-tunisian-shoot/5170760.article) that had been added to Harka (film) by someone else even before my first edit on that page. I just added more info from that article that is relevant to the making of the film and the original source was referenced. Is that what triggered the bot? You deleted ALL of my edits (even from the archives) because of this? even the awards section that had nothing to do with the Screen Daily article and had been added to the article 4 days ago? @Sphilbrick Please, undo this! Zoolver (talk) 13:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

While I'm sure it surprises some editors, is standard practice when addressing potential copyright issue to do a rollback which undoes all consecutive edits. Happy to explain why in more detail if it isn't clear why.

I confess I'm not fully following your point. It sounds like you are saying the text came not from the site I linked but from a different site. However, that site is copyrighted. Are you suggesting your edit did not incorporate text from the second site? S Philbrick(Talk) 15:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

The exact same text was used in both sites. I had no idea the KFTV article existed until your message, since I just added info from the same source that was already linked on the page, which was the Screen Daily article. Zoolver (talk) 20:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Khat and Gharibaneh

Hey! hope you're doing well. All the titles of Zar Amir Ebrahimi's filmography are in english. Khat is romanized persian and it should be in english which is The Line. And for As a Stranger television series, the persian title of the series is غریبانه and in romanized persian is Gharibaneh. This series has no official english translation and this source just translated the title, and it's a wrong translation. As a Stranger is a perfect translation for this title so don't change them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soheila23 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

If it doesn't have an official English title, then we leave the original one. We can't invent a title for a film even if it's the literal English translation. We have to follow the sources here, and the source (her own agency) say "Khat" and "Like a Stranger", so that's what we should use. Zoolver (talk) 13:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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Contractions

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Brazilian release date Father & Soldier

Hello, I would like to knwo why have you remove Father & Soldier movie Brazilian release date? It was sourced from https://www.unifrance.org/film/54671/tirailleurs# As English language wiki is an entry point for wiki for international users. Releasethebeast (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Releasethebeast This film is not a Brazilian production. We don't need to include every release date in every single country. Local release dates can be mentioned in local wikis. And you messed the article by adding a link to the top of the page. Zoolver (talk) 11:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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This is ridiculous. The damn thing was fully sourced and you removed all the info about the series' creators, screenwriters and even "Disney+", which is not "copyrighted material", it's the freaking credits! Whatever is this bot system that you people use to catch "copyrighted material" here needs some serious update. I don't even know what else you removed since you made sure to hide every single one of my edits on that article since the first one from months ago. Also, per Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria:

Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.

Which was exactly the case there. But I'm sure this won't change anything. Zoolver (talk) 23:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Non-free content is not allowed if there's a freely licensed alternative. In this case the alternative is prose that we write ourselves. Adding a list of producers or credits is perfectly okay but copying two paragraphs from Variety is not okay. — Diannaa (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

MusiCares Wiki Page edits

Hi there, my name is Kate Ferber, I am Digital Communications Manager at MusiCares, nice to meet you. I updated our wiki page last month with up to date information and deleted sources that had dead URLs. Wanted to reach out to see why it was reverted to the old version. Would appreciate any insight and hoping you'll consider letting our new version stand. Thanks! Fatekerber (talk) 18:02, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Fatekerber: Even if you work for MusiCares, you can't copy and paste copyrighted text from their official website because it goes against Wikipedia's guidelines. See WP:COPYVIO. You might get banned if you keep copying and pasting stuff. You have to write in your own words using reliable sources and avoid both WP:COPYVIO and WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. Zoolver (talk) 20:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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Le Silence de la Mer (2004 film)

I've reverted your reinstation of the table as WP:NO-TABLES clearly states that lists and prose are preferrable to tables, all the more with such a short list; also "nominations" in the section title is redundant as all three listed awards are wins. Robert Kerber (talk) 10:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Robert Kerber: Huh? there is nothing on those rules stating that "lists and prose are preferrable to tables" when it comes to awards, you just made that up.

WP:WHENTABLE literally says:

Tables are a way of presenting links, data, or information in rows and columns. They are a complex form of list, formatted into a systematic grid pattern. Tables might be useful for presenting mathematical data such as multiplication tables, comparative figures, or sporting results. They may also be useful for presenting equivalent words in two or more languages; for awards by type and year; complex discographies; etc. Zoolver (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

WP:WHENTABLE "Often a list is best left as a list. Before reformatting a list into table form, consider whether the information will be more clearly conveyed by virtue of having rows and columns."

WP:NO-TABLES "If a list is simple, it is generally better to use one of the standard Wikipedia list formats instead of a table. Lists are easier to maintain than tables, and are often easier to read."

and: "Prose is preferred [and] best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain."

And please make no allegiations like "you just made that up", which could be regarded as insinuation. Thank you.Robert Kerber (talk) 17:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Where does it say anything about a list being preferrable over a table when it comes to awards? Zoolver (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

You highlighted the passage "may also be useful for […] awards by type and year". The award section in said article covers one single year and one single festival award.

MOS:FILMACCOLADES advises "The number of accolades and any related background information can help determine how to present them. For films with only a small number, identifying them in prose may be sufficient."

Also, the majority of exemplary samples of awards in Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Awards sourcing for copy/pasting into articles are in list format, not table format, even longer enumerations. Robert Kerber (talk) 17:59, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

"may be" is not a rule. I repeat: Where does it say anything about a list being preferrable over a table when it comes to awards? Zoolver (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

"may be" is not a rule – "may be" was your argument, not mine. Please don't reverse the facts.

Where does it say anything about a list being preferrable over a table – It's all written above including given references to WP and MOS rules, please read carefully.Robert Kerber (talk) 21:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

"may be sufficient" is literally what the guidelines that you copied and pasted say. "May be" still is not a rule. You keep ignoring the fact that the guidelines don't say what you claim they say for awards and keep making stuff up to fit your personal preference. You even removed archive links, what's the excuse for that?

What you said:

"WP:NO-TABLES clearly states that lists and prose are preferrable to tables"

It doesn't say anything about that for awards. The word "preferrable" is never mentioned in WP:NO-TABLES much less in MOS:FILMACCOLADES. You keep ignoring that WP:WHENTABLE literally says to use the table format for awards. You're a lost cause. Zoolver (talk) 04:20, 11 November 2023 (UTC)