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Question from Quirek the Bird (21:10, 29 August 2024)

Hello! How can I generate my own wiki page? --Quirek the Bird (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Quirek the Bird: Hello! Welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry, but I'm afraid that that's not possible. Wikipedia is not meant for ordinary people. In all of the articles we have about people, those people have at least won a really famous award or at least been in a well-known newspaper.
But if you intend to improve existing Wikipedia article, you may to provide basic information about yourself so your fellow editors get to know you!
Rusty 🐈 23:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Oh... I must have miscommunicated. I don't plan on making a page for *myself* (that is, while I am still insignificant) but rather, can I make a new wiki page on a different topic, like a charity? 2600:1007:A011:970:1653:8F9A:5201:8B9E (talk) 00:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
@Quirek the Bird: Certainly. A draft article can be started through a process known as Articles for Creation. Generally, a subject is eligible for its own article when independent sources write about it in-depth (for example, a news article discussing the charity's efforts).
See our General notability guideline and Organizations notability guideline for more in-depth information. Rusty 🐈 03:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Eqrweqrqerqw

I'm sorry--I don't understand what you were doing there. Drmies (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Drmies: Yesterday, after seeing this talk page, I stumbled upon the AN thread Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive238#Unblock_requests_being_handled_by_non-administrators. From my understanding of some of that thread's opinions, along with WP:NAC, non-administrators may close discussions, extending to unblock requests, where they are uninvolved, if they have the permissions to perform the action. No action was necessary since it was a decline, and wasn't even a real unblock request.
However, if policy or general consensus differs from what I am saying, please let me know, preferably with a link to relevant thread(s) so I can learn from this experience. Thank you! Rusty 🐈 21:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Hmm interesting--but it seems to me you've turned around the idea that "[things] require that any sincere unblock request be reviewed by someone who has the technical ability to grant the request" (28bytes, correct me if I'm wrong)--you would need to technical ability to grant the request. That there is no technical ability necessary to deny the request does not mean that someone without that ability is free to deny it, no matter how crappy the request is, and how obvious that any one in their right mind would deny it. User:Bbb23, you have thoughts on this? It's the first time I ever heard of it. Drmies (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Non-admins cannot decline unblock requests.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
@Drmies: What about the "...and of course revert obvious abuse or vandalism that happens to include (or be included in) an unblock template" part? That isn't the same thing as declining, but it's similar.
Also, the user who started the discussion stated that they had "seen an increasing number [of non-admins] handling [unblock requests]."
I'd also like to add that I have no intention to continue handling unblock requests routinely: My work on-wiki mainly involves helping when I see something that might need my help. Rusty 🐈 22:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, I suppose I see your point there. Thing is, we have gotten so careful with so many things (like, there's a hesitancy I sense in the way editors are handling drafts, rather than nominating or obliterating obvious crap and promotion) that I'm not sure it's obvious to everyone what "obvious abuse or vandalism" means anymore, esp. in an unblock request. I think what caught me off-guard is, well, first of all, I've never seen a non-admin handle one, and second, you declined it, rather than for instance just rolling it back. Does that make sense? Ha or you can just run for admin! Drmies (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nojboj (22:22, 4 September 2024)

Hello Rusty, do you mind giving me any information for German Infoboxes, specifically for people. I am looking for a fit that would match George Finey. Thank you in advance. --Nojboj (talk) 22:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nojboj: If you're looking for infoboxes on the German-language Wikipedia, I unfortunately am unable to help you. Each Wikipedia language edition is completely independent of each other, and thus one thing on one language edition may not be the same on another. Moreover, I don't speak German. However, the German Wikipedia may have a similar program to the mentor program on the English Wikipedia. You may find a better response there. Rusty 🐈 22:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I have another assistance you may be able to help me with. The Death Records of Nellie Phoebe Murray. I can't currently sign in to see those records. If you could assist me with her Death date, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Rusty, and I'll look into German Wikipedia. Nojboj (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
@Nojboj: Once you have 500 edits and your account is 6 months old, you will be able to access Ancestry.com through a partnership with Wikipedia called The Wikipedia Library. Rusty 🐈 03:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Alright. Nojboj (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from EyoAkiba (10:07, 8 September 2024)

Hello --EyoAkiba (talk) 10:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@EyoAkiba: Hi! Do you have a question about Wikipedia? Rusty 🐈 14:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (17:24, 14 September 2024)

How can one pass in the SCIENCE STREAM --Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (talk) 17:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@Vasco Kgomotso Moropa: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Can you clarify? Rusty 🐈 17:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
how can one manage activities and be able to cope in the SCIENCE STREAM Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
@Vasco Kgomotso Moropa: I don't know what Science Stream is. As this system is mostly for questions related to Wikipedia, you may get a better response posting elsewhere. Rusty 🐈 13:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Test edits in draft space

Hi there, I see you've been tagging some drafts with WP:G2 - there's no need to do this, since a draft that has been untouched for six months will be deleted according to WP:G13 at the end of six months. -- asilvering (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@asilvering: Alright, thanks for letting me know! I already knew that but I had been seeing that some admins would actually delete the drafts I tagged for G2, so I thought it was probably okay. Rusty 🐈 16:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Think of it like this: when you tag something for speedy deletion, you're telling admins to grab their mop and bucket and come clean this one particular spot on the floor. If I've already been called out to this one specific spot, I might think "well, alright, it's true that there is some dirt on this one specific spot, I may as well," and mop it up. But there's also going to be another janitor who comes by at the end of the day with one of those giant rectangular mops, and they're going to check real quick for anything that shouldn't be on the floor, and then they're going to mop the whole thing whether that first janitor got that one spot earlier or not. -- asilvering (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
@Asilvering: Ah, makes sense. I never thought about G13 that way! Rusty 🐈 13:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ficinisti (14:45, 20 September 2024)

I wish to add an update under 'Meaning' (a painting) The picture is on Wikicommons. I need to use a detail of it. Am I allowed to do this? --Ficinisti (talk) 14:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ficinisti: You can use any image from Wikimedia Commons in a Wikipedia article, and upload images to Wikimedia Commons too. Rusty 🐈 14:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Clarification and Follow-up on Redirect for Alexandre Moratto

Hi Rusty Cat,

I initially modified the redirect page for the notable Brazilian-American director Alexandre Moratto, but due to inexperience, I believe I made an error in the process. Thank you for correcting it and returning it to the original redirect.

The reason for this attempt was feedback from editor MarcGarver, who questioned whether the redirect to Sócrates was the best representation for this page. In response, I translated the Wikipedia page for Alexandre Moratto from the Portuguese portal: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Moratto.

The translated version is available here as a draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alexandre_Moratto.

The draft is a direct translation of the established Portuguese page, providing a more comprehensive factual overview of Moratto’s career and addressing the limitations of the current redirect as a stub. If replacing the current redirect with this draft is deemed appropriate, it would need to be published by an editor, administrator, or moderator. Since the content already exists in another language version of Wikipedia, it may be worth considering for inclusion in the English-language portal. The current redirect to Sócrates offers limited information on the director's broader career.

Thank you again for correcting the redirect, and please let me know if any further action is needed.

Best,

Squigglyturtle Squigglyturtle (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@Squigglyturtle: For now, the draft is not a "live article", so I believe the redirect should remain. However, when the article is ready to be moved to the "live article" space, the current redirect page can be deleted to allow the draft to be moved to that title. Rusty 🐈 23:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Dear Rusty Cat,
Thank you for the clarification. Please accept my apologies for the changes made to the redirect page. As I am new to this process, I encountered warnings indicating that I was not following the correct procedures. I attempted to revert the changes but was unable to do so. I appreciate your intervention in restoring the page to ensure proper protocol was maintained.
Per your explanation, my understanding is that no further action is needed and the community or moderators will determine if the draft of the translation should be approved and replace the redirect, correct? Thanks for you attention to my questions.
Sincerely,
Squigglyturtle Squigglyturtle (talk) 00:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
@Squigglyturtle: Not automatically. You'd need to either submit it for review, or if you think the article is ready in its current state to replace the redirect, you'll need to make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests since normal users cannot delete articles. Rusty 🐈 00:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for this information. Perhaps submitting it for review may be the best approach. Would you mind providing some feedback on how to submit it for review at your convenience? With thanks. Squigglyturtle (talk) 00:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
@Squigglyturtle: Sure! Just put the following code at the top of the page:
{{subst:submit}}
Rusty 🐈 01:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your consideration. After further reflection, I opted to submit the suggestion via Wikipedia
move/Technical requests. If you believe it would be helpful to also add {{subst:}} to the draft page, I would be glad to do so. I appreciate your guidance and time. Squigglyturtle (talk) 01:16, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
I received a notification that the article has been approved and is now live: Alexandre Moratto. Thank you for your guidance throughout this process. I look forward to continuing my contributions to Wikipedia. Squigglyturtle (talk) 03:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
@Squigglyturtle: Glad I was able to help! Happy editing! Rusty 🐈 03:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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--Lajmmoore (talk 08:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Your revision of my edit

Excuse me, I provided sources for an unsourced section and updated it accordingly. I removed routes which were not confirmed by the airlines schedules and added a citation for the sole proven one. I also explained this in the summary. 2001:A61:123F:2E01:346C:C21D:1B78:7521 (talk) 15:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I couldn't see the summary for a second. Rusty 🐈 15:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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Question from E61Institute on User:E61Institute (23:41, 30 September 2024)

Hello! I just published a page and I just wonder when I'll be able to see it online? Thanks --E61Institute (talk) 23:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@E61Institute: If by "see it online" you mean find it through Google or another search engine, it seems that that you published the article in User space. Use Articles for Creation to create encyclopedia articles. Rusty 🐈 04:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Njgjjjy (17:14, 30 September 2024)

How to publish articles --Njgjjjy (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Njgjjjy: See Help:Your first article for more info. Rusty 🐈 04:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kumud709140 on Draft:Kumud Bihari (17:02, 1 October 2024)

How do create --Kumud709140 (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Kumud709140: If you want to create an article about yourself, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Rusty 🐈 23:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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