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Image of Yahoo/Google offices?Edit

What's the relevance of adding the thumbnail image of the Haifa Google/Yahoo office building to the Relationships.... section? It's not clear what these offices are used for, their specific connection with SEO, etc. I recommend dropping it, unless someone can provide a bit more context. jxm (talk) 03:20, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2014Edit

In the "History" section, the article says "In 2005, Google began personalizing search results for each user. Depending on their history of previous searches, Google crafted results for logged in users" [emphasis added]. You would naturally expect that a couple of lines later, it would say "In 2009, Google extended its personalized search to signed-out users." But this information is missing from the article. Please add it. Source: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/personalized-search-for-everyone.html

108.87.183.203 (talk) 19:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
This information would be useful to have on the site. Please provide a rule that states this is not a reliable source. As far as I can tell, it is a press release, which is a non-independent source, and "non-independent sources may be used to source content for articles, but the connection of the source to the topic must be clearly identified. " Vile-eight (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Press releases are considered primary, and therefore are not independent reliable sources. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 23:10, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. It is allowed despite being primary: "Unless restricted by another policy, reliable primary sources may be used in Wikipedia; but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them.[4] Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vile-eight (talkcontribs)
Doesn't the article already say that in the sentence that starts with "In December 2009, Google announced it would"? The source is even that press release. Stickee (talk) 02:49, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  Already done, The history section is written chronologically, as you go down from 2005 following 2007, you'll find that there's a sentence starting with "In December 2009[..]", that is exactly what you want to be made. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 07:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2014Edit

I want to add an infographic to the SEO wiki page in the external articles. Would this be okay? 81.174.249.178 (talk) 10:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think that would be too likely to happen. What is the infographic? Do you own the copyright to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stickee (talkcontribs)
An infographic might be a welcome addition, though probably in a different part of the article. But please see Wikipedia:Image use policy for whether the image could be included in Wikipedia. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 08:37, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

link wheelEdit

What is a link wheel? I see that link wheel currently redirects to search engine optimization. The WP:R#PLA guideline suggests that such a redirected phrase should be mentioned in the first couple of paragraphs of this article, but currently this article doesn't even mention the word "wheel" anywhere in the article. --DavidCary (talk) 02:42, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi David, I am familiar with link wheels and will try to provide an answer for you. A link wheel is simply a type of search engine optimization tactic. It's sometimes referred to as "everything links to everything else," though that is not entirely accurate. The link wheel is most often employed when someone creates a number of social profiles (example: Facebook, Twitter) and then links them in a specific way. Usually, each social profile is linked to another in a chain, but the key is that every social profile links back to some target page. If someone were to diagram this in visual form, it resembles the spokes of a wheel. The spokes are the links to the main target page. The wheel is the chain created when all of the social profiles are linked. As to your point about the redirect, I would say there perhaps should be a small section that describes a link wheel, or it should be listed under "Methods" or "White hat versus black hat techniques." The other issue is that the meaning and even execution is somewhat ambiguous. Hope that helps. --Philadelphia seo (talk) 00:58, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2015Edit

41.223.160.238 (talk) 12:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 13:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2015Edit

122.163.62.14 (talk) 11:19, 10 April 2015 (UTC) <a href="https://rintubiswas.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/definition-of-seo" title="Definition of SEO" class="mw-redirect">Definition of SEO</a>

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Kharkiv07Talk 11:45, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, note that blogs are generally not considered reliable sources on Wikipedia and cannot be used as references. Ravensfire (talk) 13:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2015Edit

Please Add SEO methods like On Page and Off Page As they play vital role in Search engine optimization and Google ranking Onpage SEO : On-page method Includes Changes in Meta tags of website, installation of Google analytic and Webmaster account, Creation and submission of XML sitemap, Keyword Research,Competitor Analysis,Mobile Site Compatibility,Broken Link Check,Content Optimization activities Offpage SEO : Off-Page method includes Social Bookmarking, Directory Submission, [Engine] Submission, Local Listings, Article Submission, Answer Questions, Blogging activities —  Amulya Joseph (talk) 07:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Do you have any sources? Eeekster (talk) 07:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes I Do Amulya Joseph (talk) 07:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, can you provide them? --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 11:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07Talk 16:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2015Edit

1st Request Search engine optimization (SEO) is the process of affecting the visibility and rankings of a website or a web page in a search engine's unpaid results, often referred to as "natural," "organic," or "earned" results, through on and off website or a web page optimization techniques that enhance signals that calculate the quality and trust placed on a website or a web page.

http://searchengineland.com/seotable

2nd Request

news search, mobile search and industry-specific vertical search engines.

https://developers.google.com/webmasters/mobile-sites/mobile-seo/

Marceloaoliveira (talk) 14:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 15:38, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Review a sectionEdit

The line:

The reviewing attorney basically bought his incoherent argument that while "SEO" can't be trademarked when it refers to a generic process of manipulated keywords, it can be a service mark for providing "marketing services...in the field of computers."

Seems poorly written and biased. Do we need to call this "incoherent" and did the reviewing attorney "basically bought" this or did he make a judgement. Just seems out of place. Ausjackal (talk) 04:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

@Ausjackal: It's the wrong tone. Feel free to remove or improve it! --Izno (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Yahoo! directoryEdit

The Yahoo directory is no longer in service. The article could benefit from an update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.61.99.98 (talk) 12:23, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2015Edit

In 2015 an update from google which gave mobile friendly sites additional weight and additional prominence when searched from a mobile device was coined "mobilegeddon" and struck fear into those webmasters and site owners who didn't optimize their sites for various screen sizes. Rudy McCormick (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 07:18, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2015Edit

I would love to edit the SEO article here to reflect the new trends in SEO.

Tolulope Sina-Olulana (talk) 20:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: It is not possible for individual users to be granted permission to edit a semi-protected article. You can do one of the following:
  • You will be able to edit this article without restriction four days after account registration if you make at least 10 constructive edits to other articles.
  • You can request the article be unprotected at this page. To do this, you need to provide a valid rationale that refutes the original reason for protection.
  • You can provide a specific request to edit the article in "change X to Y" format on this talk page and an editor who is not blocked from editing the article will determine if the requested edit is appropriate.
Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 20:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2015Edit

Extended content

Getting indexedEdit

 
Search engines use complex mathematical algorithms to guess which websites a user seeks. In this diagram, if each bubble represents a web site, programs sometimes called spiders examine which sites link to which other sites, with arrows representing these links. Websites getting more inbound links, or stronger links, are presumed to be more important and what the user is searching for. In this example, since website B is the recipient of numerous inbound links, it ranks more highly in a web search. And the links "carry through," such that website C, even though it only has one inbound link, has an inbound link from a highly popular site (B) while site E does not. Note: percentages are rounded.

The leading search engines, such as Google, Bing and Yahoo!, Climaxbox, use crawlers to find pages for their algorithmic search results. Pages that are linked from other search engine indexed pages do not need to be submitted because they are found automatically. Two major directories, the Yahoo Directory and DMOZ both require manual submission and human editorial review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iaealtd (talkcontribs)

  Not done, see WP:NOTADVERTISING. VQuakr (talk) 00:47, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2015Edit

you can clear your concepts more clearly please visit www.twotricks.com/2015/09/important-search-engine-optimizationseo.html Saqib1397 (talk) 20:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2015Edit

about Search engine optimization ranking factors Sadanandkasukurthi (talk) 07:32, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

  •   Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Stabila711 (talk) 07:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2015Edit

Felixrc91 (talk) 09:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

As a marketing strategyEdit

This section does not provide a neutral point of view. It only describes reasons why SEO is an unreliable marketing strategy. SEO is an industry with organizations, publications, countless vendors/software and conferences because SEO has been a successful marketing strategy to enough business for a long enough period of time. The point about algorithm changes making SEO unreliable can be somewhat balanced by providing information about how algorithm changes are monitored, recorded and analyzed by notable organizations such as MOZ (formerly SEOmoz), RankRanger and Search Engine Roundtable (a forum). Notable conferences focused on SEO as a marketing strategy could include SES, SMX, PubCon, and possibly MOZcon. A list of enterprise level SEO software that typically starts at $20K per year could include BrightEdge, Conductor Searchlight, Searchmetrics, seoClarity, MalkamDior WebCEO, Raven Tools, and Rio SEO.
Possible sources:


Local SEO should be a subsection for "As a marketing strategy". Content should include explanation of local businesses using software, services and tactics to obtain listings in search engine map results, GPS (device and vehicle) search results, and standard web results that are localized based on the search user's location. Businesses using local SEO fall in two categories, they either travel to the customer within a local service area or have a brick and mortar storefront location where a customer can come to the business. Common tactics can include implementing on-site schema code, building off-site citations, consistent use of NAP (name address phone), and encouraging reviews.
Possible sources:


Finding more sources for inline citations should be pretty easy since this stuff is considered industry best practices. I don't have any affiliation with any of the tools, service providers or publications, etc. Does anyone object to me building out this content? Any suggestions/help is of course welcome! G J Lee (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi Protected Edit Request - May 23rd 2016Edit

While reading the article I noticed there was a dead link in the content. Under the 'Relationship with Google Section' citation number [27] directs you to a site where the page content no longer existing. I have a very similar piece of content, detailing the exact subject matter being discussed. I would like to replace the old link with the newer one.

"In 2005, Google began personalizing search results for each user. Depending on their history of previous searches, Google crafted results for logged in users.[26] In 2008, Bruce Clay said that "ranking is dead" because of personalized search. He opined that it would become meaningless to discuss how a website ranked, because its rank would potentially be different for each user and each search.[27]"

Old Reference Link: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/11/17/seo-about-to-get-turned-on-its-ear

The Above is the actual excerpt from the content. I would like to change it to:

"With Google's personalized search algorithm constantly being updated trying to rank for 'keywords' without considering your audience is a tactic guaranteed to fail. Factors such as location, personal history, social connections, all play a part. Not all users are created equal and Google has made this clear with their personalized algorithm."

New Reference Link: http://fusingmarketing.com/2016/02/09/bulletproofseo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emequita (talkcontribs) 15:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't really have the time to look at this myself at this moment, but I have added the tag for you so someone else can look at performing this action. --Izno (talk) 18:42, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
The text requested to be added looks to be plagiarism directly from the source. Not done for now. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 21:12, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2016Edit

[1]


Ommy panchal (talk) 12:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

That page is not protected, so it is possible to create. You have proposed no change here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2017Edit

http://www.seoasad.com/ 111.88.38.158 (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER 13:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2017Edit

DMOZ open source directory ceased on March 14th 2017. . Search Engine Land http://searchengineland.com/rip-dmoz-open-directory-project-closing-270291.  Missing or empty |title= (help)</ref> ref:[1]http://searchengineland.com/rip-dmoz-open-directory-project-closing-270291

Bee Digital BeeDigital (talk) 10:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Search_Engine_Land was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  Not done, unclear what what edit is being requested. (The DMOZ link in the article still appears to work, if this was a request to remove it.) --McGeddon (talk) 11:57, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2017Edit

The citation link [28] shows page not found error. I've found the reference link http://myguestpost.org/will-personal-search-turn-seo-ear/ which can be replaced with the broken link. Also, for the citation [53] please replace the not found page with http://myguestpost.org/battle-search-engine-optimization-conversion-wins/ wakodeprashant6 (talk) 16:12, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

  Not done, neither link is broken and your suggested URL does not look like a reliable source. --McGeddon (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
@McGeddon: the links were broken, but I fixed them (in one case by removing the citation, as it referred to a prediciton from 2008 - not very relevant now as it was never reliably sourced) without having to resort to the suggested low-content source. --bonadea contributions talk 13:02, 10 April 2017 (UTC)



Semi Protected Edit Request - April 12 2017Edit

Broken citation link [5]. (http://www.webir.org/resources/phd/pinkerton_2000.pdf) for the PDF Brian Pinkerton. "Finding What People Want: Experiences with the WebCrawler"

Working link "Finding What People Want: Experiences with the WebCrawler"

Broken citation link [42] (http://searchengineland.com/070508-165231.php). for the article "Newspapers Amok! New York Times Spamming Google? LA Times Hijacking Cars.com?"

Working link "Newspapers Amok! New York Times Spamming Google? LA Times Hijacking Cars.com?"

Both suggestions are 1st position in Google when searching article titles and point to live versions of the original articles.

Suggestion made by Luke Gibson Forsaken84 (talk) 12:16, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Hope you find it helpful.

  Done. Thanks for the suggestions. Deli nk (talk) 22:15, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2017Edit

Lee Alberti Lorenzo (talk) 20:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Change the sentence: "SEO differs from local search engine optimisation in that the latter is focused on optimizing a business' online presence so that its web pages will be displayed by search egines when a user enters a local search for its products or services."

To: "SEO differs from local search engine optimisation in that the latter is focused on optimizing a business' online presence so that its web pages will be displayed by search engines when a user enters a local search for its products or services."

  Done. Thanks for catching the typo and reporting it. Deli nk (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

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