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Thank you. I would like to update Marjan van Aubel's page and include an intro at the top. I cant seem to add the text? Louiserytter (talk) 13:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Updated Louiserytter (talk) 05:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Emily Gernild

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Nomination of Emily Gernild for deletion

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Chris Troutman (talk) 18:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

This page is extremely important in order to optimise the representation of female contemporary artists. The entry is aligned with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality, reliable sourcing and biographies of living people and galleries.

Emily Gernild is one of the most important female artists working in Denmark today. Her work is owned by the Crown Princess Mary of Denmark and the Prince of Belgium. Her work has been exhibited internationally and she is part of a new movement of female artists in Denmark. It is extremely important that people know about female artists. There are so many male artists featured on Wikipedia and it would be good to raise awareness around more female artists.

The entry is aligned with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality, reliable sourcing and biographies of living people. Moceroci (talk) 18:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Hi Moceroci! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Emily Gernild that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Kj cheetham (talk) 16:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@Kj cheethamthank you for alerting me to this and I'm sorry if I have done anything wrong. I am doing my best to meet the standards for this entry. And have edited according to the valuable feedback from the community. I will make sure to keep your advice in mind for the future when editing an entry. Again, I;m sorry if this has caused any inconvenience.

It looks like the entry for this female artist will be deleted anyway as it's not enough that she is included in two museum collections, have one book published, has been part of museum exhibitions and the entry has 24 references. Please follow the discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Emily_Gernild Moceroci (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry too much about my comment above, but it's something to keep in mind for the future. I've not reviewed for article for notability so can't really comment on that. -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Emily Gernild

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Due to the objection and the initial deletion of this article and with the aim to include more female artists on Wikipedia, I have done additional research about the artist so it meets the criteria for a notable person according to Wikipedia standards. I have addressed ALL the reasons listed by the Wikipedia community, and done additional research and rewritten the article to meet the standards so it's NOT deleted.

All information is backed up by articles from credible newspapers, books, YouTube interviews with museum directors and museum websites. The artist work is included in the permanent collections of two museums and the Danish states official art foundation ’Statens Kunstfund’. The artist has had several solo exhibitions and has two exhibition catalogues published. She is included in the publication 'Touched - Danish Art in the New Millennium’ by art critic Maria Kjær Themsen. Gernild’s work has been compared to the female painters Anna Ancher, Christine Swane and Anna Syberg. And a solo exhibition about her work compared with Christine Swane of the Funen Painters was staged in 2019 at Roennebaekshom Museum. She has been part of group exhibitions at renowned museums. Gl. Holtegaard Museum just announced that they will host a solo exhibition on Emily Gernild work in 2023.

I nominate this article to be included on Wikipedia as Emily Gernild is a notable artist. It is of interest to the public to learn more about female artist and connection to other female painters throughout history. I will be able to link her to several other Wikipedia articles. It will therefore not be an orphan. Moceroci (talk) 21:00, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Emily Gernild

Hello, Moceroci,

Recreating this article in main space will result in the page being deleted according to CSD G4 criteria. A better solution is to create a draft and submit it for approval to Articles for Creation. That is the only way I know to overcome an AFD decision to "Delete" an article. If you wish, I will restore the article and move it to Draft space so you can pursue this avenue. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@LizHi Liz, this is a great option. I would be grateful if you could recreate the page as suggested and I will submit it for approval. I have done extensive research on the subject now and updated the text so hoping it's possible to add to Wikipedia. Thank you. Moceroci (talk) 05:29, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@LizHi Liz, I have created the article but unable to find it. Would you be able to check if I have submitted it for review? MANY THANKS. Moceroci (talk) 18:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

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I don't have a conflict of interest (COI). I am interested in contributing to bringing more women artists and writers to the forefront. Hence my contribution. I am passionate about art. I thought Emily Gernild was a good choice due to her solo exhibition at Gl. Holtegaard Museum which was announced in all the major newspapers along the current reviews of the a group exhibition at a museum. Her work is part of three museum collections, has two exhibition catalogues, had solo exhibitions at museums, she is referenced in a book on the history of danish art - everything is backed up with articles, books and YouTube interviews with museum directors. What is different to the previous article is the solo exhibitions, and how art critics have compared her to the female painters Anna Ancher, Christine Swane and Anna Syberg - and the movement Funen Painters - a solo exhibition about her work compared with Christine Swane of the Funen Painters was staged in 2019 at Roennebaekshom Museum. I have added more objective context, more credible newspaper articles and focused on her overall importance in the danish art canon. Taking on board all the edits from the Wikipedia community a few weeks ago, and spending so much time editing and researching the subject further has made me interested in the article being published. I will be able to link her name to several articles on Wikipedia, so it will not be an orphan. I hope this explanation helps. Moceroci (talk) 05:44, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you. Moceroci (talk) 05:44, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Emily Gernild (September 16)

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Hi @Jamiebuba

Thank you for reviewing the article on the artist Emily Gernild. I have read what qualifies as a Wikipedia article and understand this. But could you let me know why the below don't qualify? There's significant coverage shown, and by published reliable and secondary sources. I have listed four books, three articles from the biggest newspapers in Denmark. I have in addition added two interviews which I know you don't regard as highly but just wanted to give context. I have really really tried to do my best with the references and backing everything up. I looked at so many other artist profiles, in particular female danish artists and done my best to make the article on Emily Gernild much better. Her work is interesting in terms of nordic art history - the relationship with the funen painers and edward munch as mentioned by several art critics. I have backed this up in the article. I would of course like to work on improving the draft so it lives up to your standards and it can be created. Thank you again for your help and expertise. I'm grateful.

Book on the history of Danish art written by independent art critic. No involvement from the artist.

- Kjær Themsen, Maria (2020). Berørt - om dansk kunst i det nye årtusinde (in Danish). Denmark: Strandberg Publishing. pp. 243, 244, 335. ISBN 9788792949875.

Museum exhibition catalogue with contributions by art critics, curators and museum directors

- Natalia Gutman (2022), Kassandras søstre – fremtidens malere hæver forbandelsen (in Danish). Denmark, Rundetaarn.

- Vibeke Kelding Hansen and Lisbeth Bonde (2019). Upåagtet - Emily Gernild & Christine Swane; Rønnebæksholm Museum. ISBN 9788799992850

- Milena Høgsberg and Grant Klarich Johnson (June 2021). Emily Gernild: Black Lemons. Kerber Verlag. ISBN 978-3-7356-0772-0.

Art editor of the newspaper Politiken and Weekendavisen profiles the artist.

- Hornung, Peter Michael (21 July 2019). "Ung lovende kunstner: »Nettets hurtige billeder er som hurtige forelskelser. Vi har brug for at forelske os. Men vi har også brug for kærlighed«". Politiken. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

- Steffensen, Erik (26 August 2022). "Tilberedelse af et menneske" (PDF). Weekendavisen. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

- Kryger, Mathias (5 September 2021). "Udstilling på Arken er et billede på den forførende kraft, en blomst besidder". Politiken. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

Interviews in printed and online magazines

Fejerskov, Ditlev (24 February 2022). "Interview: Emily Gernild". Dossier magazine. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

Lodberg, Marie (12 July 2021). "Morgenmad med Emily Gernild". Alt for Damerne. Retrieved 4 September 2022. Moceroci (talk) 07:55, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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Concern regarding Draft:Southern Guild

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Hello FireflyBot,

I would like to request to have it undeleted and submitted for review.

Thank you Moceroci (talk) 11:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello,

Please can you review the submission for approval.

Many thanks,

Louise Moceroci2020 (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Julie Leopold Alf moved to draftspace

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:17, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi there,

I am waiting for Wikipedia to approve the article. I look forward to hearing from you.

Louise Moceroci2020 (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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You stated on your now-blocked second-account talk page User talk:Moceroci2020 that you are not being paid to edit. Would you please explain, then, what your association is with Southern Guild? If you are working with them or collaborating with them, then you have a conflict of interest and you need to declare it. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, your draft won't get reviewed unless you submit it for review. I placed a submission template on it. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:46, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I have tried to submit it but I'm still blocked. I am logged in as Moceroci. Moceroci (talk) 15:55, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I have visited South Africa, and their gallery which was a mindblowing experience. I have never seen art and design presented in that way. I was so impressed by their representation of artists. I have seen that MANY galleries have Wikipedia entries, mainly in the west, and I was surprised that they didn't have one given their influence globally. I hope this helps? I do not have a conflict of interest. Moceroci (talk) 15:50, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. You should not be blocked at this account. I lifted the IP address block on your other account although that shouldn't make a difference, but please try again. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:34, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I have submitted it for review. 83.94.235.216 (talk) 20:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Someone made a comment in the draft about reference errors. You need to fix those. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:21, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Updated and corrected. Moceroci (talk) 20:07, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

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I have added a comment on the Talks page. What is the comment referring to specifically? What is the paid content?

I will be able to correct it asap! Everything is backed up by credible newspapers, publications and museum sites. Moceroci (talk) 21:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

You are legally obligated to disclose your CoI. It does not matter if you thought the sources back up the content. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I am not paid to contribute to the article on the female artist Emily Gernild. I'm contributing as a dedicated supporter of Wikipedia's mission and to raise awareness to a female artist. I am sorry if this has caused any issues? Moceroci (talk) 20:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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