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Chocolate ROCKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Quite.  GARDEN  14:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Indeed. iMatthew // talk // 14:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
<mock>lol wut? tru dat. ur my bff 4reel. rofl. kthnxbai.</mock> —La Pianista (TC) 20:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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White Lies discog DYK

  Hello! Your submission of White Lies discography at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 22:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


Hi there; you are quite right; I usernameblocked this editor in July 2007 - so long ago that I had forgotten that I had done so - on the basis that it was quite soon after the installation of the present Pope. But yes, I will unblock him.--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 16:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem; he's a new user, and perhaps did not fully understand policy. Now that the Pope has been in post for two years I see no problem. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 17:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Armed Forces of the United States

This was not a non-controversial move. The article was moved to United States Armed Forces after a move discussion, and should not be moved again without discussion. Could you please move the page back to United States Armed Forces? Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 20:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I re-read the discussion, and it could be taken either way. I'll start a new discussion to clarify this. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 20:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

White Lies discog

You're welcome. The studio album table also appears to be contradicting itself. I'm not sure what they were up to in 2005... :) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 11:45, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

MOTD Comment

You may want to take a look here. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Progress report: Country outlines

Development has been slow but continuous:

Penubag has done a fantastic job on the images for the awards we'll be using for our project's collaborations and contests. We now have 3 awards: a medal, a trophy, and a race ribbon. They all look tight. The trophy needs a small adjustment, but other than that, all 3 award images are complete and ready to use to create awards with.

Spartaz has warned us of (threatened to take) G4 (speedy delete) action if we run a competition that resembles the previously deleted Awards Center page. So whatever we do, any contests we run must differ substantially from the methods used there.

One type of competition I've been exploring is edit racing. I'm in the process of working the bugs out of this concept - the first race didn't work as expected - you see, because we only had an award for first place, the opponent didn't think it worthwhile to continue once it was clear who the winner would be. And since editors are in different time zones and usually need to start the race at different times, we need to base winning on personal start times - he who completes his assigned edits in the least time (rather than first), wins. And last but not least is quality control. What good is winning if your edits are ripe with errors? So I'll be exploring possibilities such as using a referee (whoever is overseeing a particular race), having participants watching each other for errors to knock them back, etc. I'm not sure yet.

Rich Farmbrough has been applying his bot expertise to filling in blanks in the country outlines (the population and area entries). I'm amazed at the number of edits he pumps out each day on a myriad of projects - ours makes up but a small time slice of his activity, and yet he has saved us many hours of manual work. Perhaps we should look into how he gets so much done. :)

Zlerman has chosen to work on one outline at a time, and is taking on Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. He also has been keen on noticing and reporting design issues pertaining to the whole set of country outlines. Keep up the good work!

Highfields has been filling in the names of capitals, and is our first race winner. Check out the award on his user pages.

As you probably know, this project has expanded to include working on any and all sets of pages that are linked to from the country outlines. Once the set of country outlines go live (in article space), traffic will likely increase for all the links included on them. The quality and usefulness of those pages will reflect heavily on the country outlines (the outlines, which are essentially lists of links, are only as good as the links they present), and therefore we've branched out to solve the biggest problems with those as well. So far, we've taken on:

  • The creation of disambiguation pages for country adjectivals ("German", "French", "Taiwanese", etc. About half done.)
  • The clean-up of the CIA World Factbook statistics on the "demographics of" country pages. We've been renaming those sections to provide a key string that AWB can use for targetting (for skipping and filtering). Once that's done, we'll be able to break the clean-up down into simple AWB search/replace tasks, because we'll be able to target just those pages that include the CIA stuff.
  • Renaming the "Cuisine of" articles to their adjectival forms ("Chinese cuisine", "Italian cuisine", etc.)

Blackadam2 and Thehelpfulone have been helping out with the "demographics of" pages mentioned above.

And we have a couple speed addicts (addicted to wiki-velocity, not drugs)...

Both Robert Skyhawk and Thehelpfulone prefer (and excel at) simple AWB search/replaces. Robert hasn't actually joined our team yet, but he has been helping out quite a bit from the sidelines (via the WP:AWB/Tasks page. Unfortunately, there has recently been a non-AWB chore that has been holding things up on the AWB front - an edit to all the the headings which had to be reverted before too many new edits were made, because any new edits would make the reversion more difficult. The headings have been restored, so now the way is clear for AWB operations, and there are many search/replace tasks in the queue. AWB assignments have started again!

There's a similar bottleneck on the "Demographics of" pages (the "keying" mentioned above), but that's almost cleared too. :)

With my internet access somewhat crippled, I've been finding it difficult to keep up with you guys. However, I expect to be accessing a Linky-capable workstation on a faster server (I'm on it right now, as you can probably tell from my contributions list for today), and so I should really pick up speed. Feels goooooood. :)

Recruiting has been a bit slow (but steady), due in part to my crippled access, and because we've been waiting for the images for the awards to be completed. I expect the team to grow more rapidly as the bottlenecks are removed.

Well that's what's been happenin', and here's what's in the pipeline...

I'm about to begin work on a set of lists that corresponds to all the standard links on the country outlines, and these will be presented on the Topic outline of countries which will be organized exactly like the country outlines. Aside from being an extremely useful navigation aid, it will allow editors to easily see the state of country coverage on Wikipedia. I'll provide you with a link once I get up to speed on this.

In the meantime, keep up the good work!


The Transhumanist 05:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I happened to see this. I think the concept of 'edit racing' is a terrible idea. Edits should be thoughtful and considered. Racing is antithetical to that. //roux   05:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


This is the only area I've changed. Thanks for fixing it up, I will follow the guidelines next time. Fwubanolsovolkacnein (talk) 10:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


why did you delete my talk page? we worked hard on the book of wall and that was my only copy! we worked hard on that! David the Dogman (talk) 19:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I have the book of wall at my talk page? in my school, many join the Church of Wall. Whats so bad about puting it on my talkpage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David the Dogman (talkcontribs) 20:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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Comment Removals By IP

Thank you for interceding. I don't understand why the IP address would claim WP:TALK as the premise for their removal of my comments since WP:TALK nearly prohibits removing the comments of others, I figured it must have been an error on their part, so please excuse me if it seemed like an edit war. I'll leave that talk page alone for awhile to avoid conflict. Spinach Monster (talk) 21:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

While I'm Here

I was wondering what you thought of the Confirmations of Barack Obama's Cabinet article. I've worked pretty hard on it and i'd be glad to get someone else's two cents, positive or negative. Spinach Monster (talk) 03:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Black Eyed Peas discography

  On February 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Black Eyed Peas discography, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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I noticed you have exams until tomorrow. I was just checking to see if you have an interview prepared for the next issue or if I should try to whip one together. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. A quick glance at the interview list shows that we haven't done a county in a while. How about Wikipedia:WikiProject China? I'm currently trying to get an interview with someone in WikiProject Islam. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 19:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


I mentioned your competition here as a potential reason for this copyright problem existing. I am not challenging the system, but I am challenging the abuse of a potentially very good thing. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Hello again, Garden, I'm trying to get SPL up for VGA on Simple Wikipedia, and would love your help. If there is any comments or changes you could make, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you muchly! :) Kennedy (talk) 11:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Got your message. Thanks. Thought the input of a Don's fan would be beneficial :P Seriously though, someone else who has a knowledge of the subject helps a great deal. Much appreciated. On a side note: Hows the weather up there, hear its quite bad. Poor sheep... Kennedy (talk) 16:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


Don't presume you always know who is real!!!--Santa (talk) 22:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

And, are you so sure I'm a sock? It isn't nice to disbelieve in people, and I don't visit people who are not nice.--Santa (talk) 22:58, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


Sorry but I will have to decline, my main interest when not dealing with MOS:ICON is WP:GAA not WP:RU Gnevin (talk) 23:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure why not Gnevin (talk) 09:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I've reply , as I said in one of my answers prose aren't really my strong suit. If you could correct any errors you see. Thanks Gnevin (talk) 19:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Your Recent Action for Carnatic Music

Wish you did well in your exams. I am not the editor who got blocked by framed community-ban. Please reverse your action. (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC).

Re: Vis a vis this

You could just move it manually, since it only needs to be done once. Gary King (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

St. David School (Richmond)

Oh whoops, thanks, i need to learn how to read those history pages better they are so convolutedTroyster87 (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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Silent Alarm

I finished my copyedit. You might want to check it just to make sure I didn't make any errors in the British grammar. I'm somewhat familiar with its differences from american english, but I might have made a few mistakes. Also, if you are thinking about an GAN and/or FAC for the article, you will want need to add some citations to at least the 'hidden tracks' section. Thingg 16:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: WikiProject China

I'd be happy to contribute an interview on WikiProject China for your report. I've done article assessment and a lot of other things over the last couple years. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page or email me.--Danaman5 (talk) 19:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

A little something for you...

    The Lonely Geek Barnstar
This barnstar is in honor of your depressing, unloved presence on IRC on Valentine's Day, 2009. Roses and kisses work for some, but you, noble Wikipedian, have important things to discuss on the internet with people you barely know who you'll probably never meet. Here's to you! FlyingToaster 20:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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Perhaps it is intentional, perhaps not, but your signature looks like a blue rectangle, and is only readable when selecting it in some way. This is very annoying, as it makes it hard to see who is saying what in a conversation. Could you please consider changing it to something instantly readable? Thanks! Fram (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the change! Fram (talk) 13:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

May I please ask for your help?

Hello, Garden. May I please ask for your help? Could you please move DYK Parc naturel régional d'Armorique from queue number 4 to any later queue at your choice and use this image File:Mont Saint-Michel de Brasparts1.jpg that was in my original nomination with it? DYK will win from this image present.Thank you very much for your time and your help.I've already left the same message to other admins. I hope whoever will first read it will help me.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I copied my messag and did not change the name.Changed now.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Thank You!

  Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 61 support, 3 oppose, and 1 neutral

Cheers, and hope your exams went alright mate! Nja247 19:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Fresh Award

Slakr's Fresh Award

For bringing a truly refreshing breath of invigorating air to Wikipedia with your actions, I hereby award you some fresh wasabi. Your creation of User:Garden/WikiCup seems, at least to me, a great way to energize participation in editing the encyclopedia productively, with a playfully competitive edge. Double thumbs up from me for putting the work into organizing and executing it.

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RfA thanks

Thanks for creating my account


I've logged in and all seems to be fine.

Thanks for your help.

Could you provide me with a link to create a new wikipedia entry and/or a "sandbox" entry? I won't be utilizing it for sometime, but would like to know for when that time might come.

Thanks in advance.

All the best,


Kcl262527 (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Garden for the Quick Reply

Where do I go to create the link you mentioned?

I want to make a Sandbox and understand how to create a link, but don't know where I do it.

Thanks again, in advance,


Kcl262527 (talk) 21:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again, Garden. I will fumble through the rest sometime and let you know if I need more help.

All the best,


Kcl262527 (talk) 22:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I am editing the Epik Subwoofers future entry in my Sandbox now, I believe. Should I be doing it somewhere else? Let me know. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcl262527 (talkcontribs) 22:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


Dear Garden, much thanks for your support in my RFA, hope the exams went well. Since you might not be the only one who didn't spot what my name means I've included in the full Oscar version of my Thankspam, which is here if you want to see the unpersonalised version:-) WereSpielChequers 23:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


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He's resumed his edit war, after going to the talk page, failing to convince even a single other person, throwing around personal attacks - including a couple nasty messages on my talk page, and on Talk:Cold reading, and so on. Any chance of you dealing with him again? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Black Eyed Peas discography

There are quite a few unresolved issues. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Could you reply on the FLC page itself? It is hard to tell which issues have been resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

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Regarding this, why am I listed under wild card when I'm leading Pool F?--King Bedford I Seek his grace 00:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


See WP:AC/N, Chergles has been blocked by arbcom as a sock of Archtransit. Not sure how you want to handle this for WikiCup purposes. RlevseTalk 15:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Wondering a thought

Ive recently read the essay page you created of 'not every IP is a vandal'. I would like to ask your thoughts concerning roll back privalages and this issue. For vandal fighters employing Huggle (or twinkle) and using the roll back feature is very common especially for targetting IP addresses. I found recently that a user who would forget to log on could easily find their edits reverted and roll backed even if they werent vandalism. Now what Im aware of is rollbacking should be used specifically for reverting vandalism; however providing the undoing user says the edits are unconstructive (spelling, grammar mistakes) they can be rolled back and addition of a warning template is justified (which sounds like a loop whole in the policy to me). Do you think you could update your essay to include awareness of using features such as rollback and that not every IP is a vandal?, It can easily deter new users and experienced ones as well from editing, thanksOttawa4ever (talk) 21:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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scoring error

Hey, Garden, I know you're in charge of the scoring for the wikicup, and I'm thinking an error has been made in the scoring for the GT Yamato class battleship. There are 4 articles in the topic, yet the points were only allocated for three. Is this standard, or is this an error? Regards, Cam (Chat) 02:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

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How do you add that message above the edit box, when editing your talk page? -BlueCaper (talk) 22:01, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. -BlueCaper (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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