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Can someone please let me know what happened to my Joan Rosier-Jones upload. it seems to have disappeared. Christos Evangeli (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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Welcome

Hi Chris. Welcome. In reply to your comment on my poet list, I tend to work on lower traffic, more neglected articles, expanding the biographical detail and cleaning up the referencing. The big and famous poets like William Blake, W. B. Yeats, Maya Angelou, Ezra Pound, Walt Whitman, Emily Dickinson, T. S. Eliot are all doing well without my intervention. Keats was the exception at the time and I may say that Robert Frost is still in a bad state. I hope you enjoy editing at Wikipedia and will stay around. It can take a while to get know the city, but it can be fun. Poets are more than welcome. Drop me a line if you have any questions about WP or need a hand. Best wishes Span (talk) 09:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the article Christodoulos Moisa may be deleted for lack of secondary and tertiary sources. You have editors ready to offer support if you want it. The deletion process can seem somewhat Byzantine but it's nothing personal. Best wishes Span (talk) 12:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! SwisterTwister talk 05:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Snowysusan 22:20, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Marathovounos from a helicopter in the 1950,s..jpg

I see you uploaded File:Marathovounos from a helicopter in the 1950,s..jpg to commons. It has been tagged for deletion there, because of insufficient information to determien its copyright status. At the least you will need to say precisely where you got this image "Courtesy of the British Army" is not enough. What web site or book or other source did you obtain the image from? Who was the photographer, if known? You tagged it with "Public Domain-Under New Zealand law" -- why New Zealand? The location of the photo is in Cyprus is it not?

You will need to fix these on the commons page or the picture will shortly be deleted. DES ^(talk) 07:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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Unsourced articles

I see you have recently created Flash- Auckland Community Newspaper, Canterbury Branch of New Zealand Author PEN and New Zealand PEN Dunedin Branch. I have made a number of changes to these articles to bring them into compliance with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. I am concerned that none of the references you have provided mention the subjects of the articles. For a start, Wikipedia articles are not suitable as references. They should be internal links instead, using double square brackets. The other references you provide are about individual people or organisations, but they do not link these to Flash or PEN.

Please add references which do provide support for the articles as a high priority, as the articles are likely to be deleted if you do not. The references will need to be independent of the organisations, and establish that the organisations are notable.-gadfium 23:38, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I have checked Advance in Order, the history of the Auckland City Council 1971-1989, but it does not appear to mention Flash although it does mention Vince Terrini.

The New Zealand Society of Authors is very likely to be a suitable subject for an article. Perhaps the Canterbury and Dunedin PEN branches could be covered in an article of them.-gadfium 23:47, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I just got some more info from the Auckland Public Library. Many thanks for your help. Christos Evangeli (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Andreas Kourouma

The article Andreas Kourouma has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. The nominator also raised the following concern:

Living person, no sources provided. Per W:BLP this article must be sourced. Ensure sources meet WP:RS and Wikipedia:Notability (people)

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Greetings, as has been noted before, articles about living people absolutely must have proper sourcing. Rather than have the fuss of folks marking warnings and sending you notices, please just put in sources with every new article you start. The saying "sources first, then article" is a good rule of thumb: either you're getting the info from somewhere so you should cite them, or you're just writing articles off the top of your head, which is not the best way to get good articles. Just a suggestion to keep things running smooth. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:30, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Andreas Koukouma

Hi Matthew, I only wrote the article last night. I will be attaching the references today. Many thanks for your super fast reading. Christos. Can you please change the heading at the top to Koukouma please121.72.136.138 (talk) 21:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

You should be able to change the page to the correct title yourself. See the "Move" on the pulldown of extra functions, to the right of "View history". See Wikipedia:Moving a page. Looking at some of the sources you have added, I suggest the most appropriate spelling is Andreas Koukoumas, with an 's' on the end. However, you will know far better than me what the appropriate title is.-gadfium 02:38, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

No worries; the proposed deletion wasn't meant as an attack on you, just to emphasise that you do have to get references in there rapidly. We have too many folks starting rough articles and then just wandering off hoping others will fix them (or not caring), so it's very appreciated that you took note of what was needed and made the right changes.

Your article has gone great, especially for a first effort. We've done a little tweaking on tone: for example "legitimate democratic government" is a bit controversial or taking one side of an argument, and a larger discussion of the Coup is outside the scope of a bio about a writer, so I removed that phrase and linked the names of the figures/event so readers wanting to know more can go to the specific articles.

The three main things you'll want to do at the moment:

• Fix the WP:Link rot (actually, I see User:Derek R Bullamore is on that, but check out what he did and note you'll want to do that in the future to clean up your footnotes)
• Read WP:LEAD and get some ideas on how to build an intro section. As the article was before, you just started explaining things in chronological order; what you want is to have in the very intro a very brief "here's who he was and why it matters", probably no more than a paragraph, and then go into the "here's his life and career". For a lead, imagine (quite possibly correctly) that many readers will only read the lead, so try to give the best concise explanation that would give them the most important facts about Kourouma.
• Any further references from academic/journalist sources. The more neutral/professional a source is, the better. While you've certainly passed the deletion-risk stage of unreferenced, a few more refs from literary critiques, etc. would always help.

Aside from those, if you get the article to where you want it and are interested in branching out further, consider addressing the WP:Redlinks in your article. That is, the wikilinks that don't lead anywhere. Maybe a given name, place, political group you mention has no article, so you could make a short "stub" (include at least one good reference) so curious readers can get at least the basics. Make sure to check that redlinks aren't just a spelling/transliteration issue though, as it's often we do have an existing article under a different variant of the name, in which case just a WP:Redirect will channel the alternate spelling into the existing article.

Hope this is of help to you, you've done a great job learning a lot about Wikipedia in a short amount of time, and I'm glad the Teahouse is helpful to you! MatthewVanitas (talk) 13:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Andreas Koukoumas

Good morning Matthew. I am onto getting some reviews and criticisms sent to me. Cyprus is a strange place regarding literature. You can write and be read by people all your life but be ignored by academics and critics and then all those people turn up at your funeral saying what a great writer you were. Mind you the same happens here in New Zealand poet Sam Hunt being a good example. Thanks for the advice. I have been bed ridden for three weeks with a damaged spine so this has given me the opportunity to catch up with articles for Wikipedia and also to upload photos that are historically important. As you may have picked up English is my second language and I am a dyslexic. What wonderful things computers are ... but they are not that intuitive. Also I learn by doing ... something that I appreciate in my students. Again thanks for your input. Christos Evangeli. Christos Evangeli (talk) 13:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions at Andreas Koukouma

Christos, just a few pointers:

• Please use the WP:Edit summaries (small explanation window shown below your editing window) to explain each edit you make, as right now the page History shows dozens of edits without explanation, making it confusing the track the article.
• Similar to the above, ideally there shouldn't be tons of "+1" or "-4" edits in sequences of dozens; WikiPedia saves every draft we make, so it creates a ton of almost-identical drafts. If you want to see how your edits look, use the Preview button next to the Save button. Make as many edits as you see fit, keep checking Preview, and then add an Edit Summary descrbing what you changed and hit Save. It makes tracking versions way easier than having 30 unexplained tiny edits in a row.
• I'd earlier removed a few WP:POV ("point of view") issue that have since crept back in. Please do read the WP:POV policy to get a feel for WP:Neutrality in writing. We can't described the Turkish invasion as a "disaster" because clearly some people think it was a disaster and some think it's great. We can't describe his poems to his wife as "touching" because some readers may be touched and not others. We don't described the subject as "renowned" because a) that's a vague term and b) presumably he's important or we wouldn't have an article about him! Leave the "renowned/famous/important" out as a given, and instead focus on facts like "won the X award", "published Y books", "was poet laureate of X country/city", etc. The idea is indisputable facts, things that his best friends and worst enemies alike would have to admit are factually correct.

Hope this helps, article is looking better and better! MatthewVanitas (talk) 13:47, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your Suggestions MatthewVanitas

All points noted. The only reason that I have been saving so much is because my PC has been crashing. It will get a revamp today. Anyway all points noted and appreciated. Christos Evangeli Christos Evangeli (talk) 21:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah, if you do indeed have to save a lot, at least use Edit Summary so the reasons are clear. Hope your computer is back running smoothly! MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Small format issue: (in Greek)

Small thing, when you have a book in a footnote, or a link somewhere, and that thing is in Greek, just type{{el icon}} after that, and it will automatically register your title/link as being in Greek: (in Greek). Looks tidier, and helps automate formats. Just a little tip! MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks : (in Greek)

Thanks amigo. Done

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Christos Evangeli (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Andreas Georgiou Thomas

I am having problems with the Andreas Georgiou Thomas page. I cannot get the citations to link properly as they do not show up in preview or save. Many thanks for any help anyone can give. Christos Evangeli Christos Evangeli (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

You need to terminate each reference with </ref>. You were missing the slash. I've done this at the AFC page for you.-gadfium 20:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Andreas Georgiou Thomas

Thank you very much. gadfium. Christos EvangeliChristos Evangeli (talk) 12:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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About Koukouma's article.

• In 1974 George Papadopoulos ordered, with the go ahead of the CIA, EOKA B to overthrow the government of President Makarios III

That text is wrong. First of all, the leader of greek junta during 1974 wasn't Papadopoulos but Ioannidis. Also, it is well known that Papadopoulos prefered Makarios instead of Grivas. That's why during 1973, Papadopoulos agreed to the establishment of Efedrikon against EOKA B.

Koukoumas article

Thanks Pavlo. Papadopoulos was the junta leader during the coup. When it all turned to custard Ioannides took over. Ioannides was the head of Greek Intelligence with very close links to the CIA. Christos Evangeli Christos Evangeli (talk) 23:11, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi I have added references to Joan Rosier-Jones and then deleted the previous page Rossier with two s and no hyphen. If any other problem please let me know. I have been away for a while but hopefully now I am back. Many thanksChristos Evangeli (talk) 03:34, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for message. I deleted your article because

• it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that she meets the notability guidelines. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, as defined in the link, or they will be deleted. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to her, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what she claims or interviewing her or her management.
• You gave some references, but five of the six appear to have been written by her, and the one attributed to Guy Grant, like the others, has no link so we can't tell what it is saying anyway
• It's difficult to see why she is notable. There are no sales figures, and none of the books is linked to its own article, so presumably they are not notable either. You claim she has won some awards, but that is unreferenced
• it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic.

• You are supposed to be writing about her, but most of the article appears to consist of your personal reviews of her books, complete with your personal opinions and selective quotes.
• Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: A passionate advocate.. .Joan Rosier-Jones has created a very real picture of life in 16th century Ireland and England. Waiting For Elizabeth is a compelling story, full of romance and political intrigue... A passionate advocate of New Zealand writing... her successful classes... objective viewpoint... investigates and meticulously scrutinizes the facts... a wealth of valuable information
• Selective quotes promoting her books “[A] powerfully realistic novel, a strong and compelling portrayal of one woman's life.” (written by her)... a novel “marked by prodigious and impressive research ... immensely satisfying and thought-provoking.”

• the article was created in a single edit without wikilinks or references and with first-person text (complete my second novel, Voyagers), and looks as if was copied from an unknown and possibly copyrighted source. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. But in any case the copyrighted text is far too promotional to be useful for Wikipedia's purposes, so there would not be any point in your jumping through all the hoops that are required.
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Instead of writing a neutral biography of her, you have written a hagiography complete with favourable reviews of her book, referenced almost entirely to her, and with no web links that enable us even to check what she said about herself. I get the impression that you haven't even looked at any Wikipedia biographies before writing this. See James Joyce and Terry Pratchett to get some idea what a proper article should look like. You don't need to aim at that level, but you might get some idea of how to write a neutral, well referenced article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:56, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. So six citations from newspapers which are primary sources are not enough? If you send it back to me I will then go through and find more references. Here in New Zealand one is lucky to get one if not two reviews of their books. Sometimes they are good reviews sometimes there are bad. Joan has just hit the good ones. The main magazines and newspapers are dominated by University and overseas publishers. Which makes Joan achievements even more important.I will attach the New Zealand Book Council site for reference. As the local team is writing pages about Whanganui I agreed to write about her. I will keep your hagiographic comment in mind. Many thanks, Christos Evangeli (talk) 08:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, Sorry but I have been away with a very serious series of sicknesses. Regarding Antony Milen. He is not a personal friend although I have met him as anyone who lives in NZ eventually bumps into everyone. He is a talented young writer with considerable ability and has produced three novels and a series of reviews on his blog. I would consider him notable as he is one of a handful of writers who live in central New Zealand with some profile. Unfortunately NZ has not got a plethora of support for such writers and unless you are at a university or taken up by a large publisher who put up your profile on Wikipedia they are basically ignored. I have seen many NZ writers who come out of the Universities who are one book wonders because of the support given to them in those courses. The books are alright but they do not endure. I think Millen will. I would put Millen against half a dozen New Zealand writers/journalists who have profiles on Wikipedia. However if the consensus is against him for notability I will accept the decision. Christos Evangeli

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The page Antony Millen has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. GirthSummit _(blether) 11:14, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi - that article was word-for-word identical to the one that was deleted as a result of an AfD discussion, with the same sources - that's not how we do things. If you can find better sources - ones which are reliable, independent of the subject and secondary - which establish that the subject meets the criteria at WP:NAUTHOR or at WP:GNG, I'd advise you to write it up as a draft, and submit it to WP:AfC for review. Thanks GirthSummit _(blether) 11:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hi - I've just that your username matches the name of the subject of Christodoulos Moisa, an article that you have heavily been involved with editing. If you are that person, or if you know them, you should read the guidelines at COI. You need to make a declaration of your conflict of interest, and you should not edit the article directly - rather, you should use the talk page to make edit requests, indicating your COI when you do so. Please take the necessary steps towards disclosure, and stop editing that page. Thank you. GirthSummit _(blether) 11:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article about yourself, at Christodoulos Moisa. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi - the message above gives some link which discuss the issues with writing and maintaining and article about yourself. You also need to read and comply with the guidance at WP:COI. Please do not edit that article again until you have addressed this concern. Thanks GirthSummit _(blether) 14:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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