Talk:Trinidad Arroyo

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Mike Christie in topic GA Review

Did you know nomination edit

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 22:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Trinidad Arroyo, the first Spanish woman ophthalmologist, may have also been the first Spanish woman to vote? Source: Ansede (2022). "Trinidad Arroyo, la mujer que votó 17 años antes que las demás". El País. "Pero Arroyo votó antes que las demás porque algunos senadores eran elegidos por las universidades y, en 1916, ella era profesora auxiliar en la Facultad de Medicina de la Universidad Central de Madrid."

Created by Thebiguglyalien (talk). Self-nominated at 17:39, 6 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Trinidad Arroyo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply

  •   New enough and long enough. QPQ present. No textual issues; hook fact seems to check out (AGF — it's a paywalled El País article). ALT0 has a second piece that checks out to another source (first female ophthalmologist). Very nice addition. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 18:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Trinidad Arroyo/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 13:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Images are appropriately licensed. Sources are reliable; Earwig shows no issues.

  • "Arroyo was able to speak several languages, which was of great use to the associations that she was involved with, as she was able to represent them to other countries. In addition to Spanish, she was able to speak English, French, and German." Suggest "Arroyo was able to speak English, French, and German in addition to Spanish, which was of great use to the associations that she was involved with, as she was able to represent them to other countries" as more concise.
  • "They established themselves with other Spanish intellectuals in exile": not sure what is meant by "established". "Became acquainted with"? "Formed friendships with"? Or if this is more of an intellectual circle, perhaps something like "They established themselves as part of a circle of Spanish intellectuals in exile"?
  • The link to Instituto Libre de Segunda Enseñanza goes to a school in Buenos Aires.
  • Suggest translating "Comité Nacional de Mujeres Antifascistas" as it's not linked.
  • "cousin-twice-removed": I don't think this is usually hyphenated, is it?

That's all I can find to complain about; the article is in excellent shape. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:54, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Spotchecks:

  • FN 1 cites "Arroyo and her husband began an ophthalmology practice in Madrid": Verified.
  • FN 8 cites "and the first to be in a subject other than gynaecology": can you quote the supporting text?
  • FN 8 cites "Despite her extensive work and involvement with the university, she was not granted the same privileges or status as her colleagues. She was never granted a professorial position nor was she allowed to publish with the university." Can you quote this too?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:54, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

The relevant passages:
  • La primera médica no ginecóloga fue Trinidad Arroyo Villaverde que, quizás bajo la influencia de su profesor Vicente Sagarra Lasuraín, se dedicó a la Oftalmología
  • A Trinidad Arroyo se la consideraba como valiosa profesional en su especialidad, inició en ella a su marido, trabaja incansablemente, publicaba artículos...; pero su techo estuvo en ser condiscípula de, colaboradora de, consejera de; no se le permitió el acceso a una Cátedra, ni compartir la publicación de ese manual universiatario en el que ella parece había tenido tanta parte, ni la relevancia social que todo ello suponía.
All comments have been addressed. Is the sentence about intellectuals in exile clearer now? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 14:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, definitely. Fixes and spotchecks look good, so passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply