Talk:St Mary's Chapel, Lead

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Chemical Engineer in topic Church or Chapel

Church or Chapel edit

This is universally known as a Church, apart from English Heritage who refer to the building as a chapel, which it was. The Churches Conservation Trust always refer to it as the Church of St Mary, Lead, North Yorkshire. (Their brochure, the sign outside and the web page.) It might be fair enough to state that it is technically a chapel (if an actual appropriate record could be cited) as many things are not technically what is implied by their common name, but in my view the encyclopedia page should be the common name. What was it called in 1932? Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Well, the Churches Conservation Trust isn't The Churches and Chapels Conservation Trust, so perhaps they call all their chapels Churches. Also, Pevsner and Radcliffe's Yorkshire: The West Riding (1967) describes it, on p. 301, as a Chapel. --GuillaumeTell 21:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
English Heritage, in the National Heritage List for England, use the title of "Chapel of St Mary, Lead", which is why I chose the word "chapel" in the title. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
The article was originally under the name church until you changed it. I am quite happy that it was originally a chapel, and quite possibly is still technically a chapel (though the above refs are not in any way definitive) which could be put in the text. However, according to WP:UCN "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources......Article titles should be neither vulgar nor pedantic." It is my view that Chapel is pedantic and Church is the common name.Chemical Engineer (talk) 11:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
In what way is Pevsner's Buildings of England series not an English-language reliable source? --GuillaumeTell 16:54, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
I said definitive. But that in no way changes my argument that Church is normal and Chapel is pedantic.Chemical Engineer (talk) 17:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply