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CitationsEdit

  • Bruce B. Huckell; J. David Kilby (2014). Clovis Caches: Recent Discoveries and New Research. UNM Press. ISBN 978-0-8263-5483-9.
  • Claude Chapdelaine (2012). Late Pleistocene Archaeology and Ecology in the Far Northeast. Texas A&M University Press. ISBN 978-1-60344-805-5.
  • Neil Asher Silberman; Alexander A. Bauer (2012). The Oxford Companion to Archaeology. Oxford University Press. pp. 57–78. ISBN 978-0-19-973578-5.
  • Timothy R. Pauketat (2012). The Oxford Handbook of North American Archaeology. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-538011-8.
  • John F. Hoffecker; Scott A. Elias (2013). Human Ecology of Beringia. Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-50388-4.
  • Vivien Gornitz (2009). Encyclopedia of Paleoclimatology and Ancient Environments. Springer Science & Business Media. p. 207. ISBN 978-1-4020-4551-6.
  • Terry L. Jones; Alice A. Storey; Elizabeth A. Matisoo-Smith (2011). Polynesians in America: Pre-Columbian Contacts with the New World. Rowman Altamira. ISBN 978-0-7591-2006-8. Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Elizabeth Matisoo-Smith; Lisa Matisoo-Smith; K. Ann Horsburgh (2012). DNA for Archaeologists. Left Coast Press. pp. 130–... ISBN 978-1-59874-682-2.
  • Graeme Wynn (2007). Canada and Arctic North America: An Environmental History. ABC-CLIO. p. 6. ISBN 978-1-85109-437-0.

Suggested edit in lede paragraphEdit

Otherwise a very good and pertinent article, the first sentence in the lede, however, seems to me to be a bit too long, and should be broken down into two sentences for better readability. The current edit reads as follows:

Human settlement of the Americas began when Paleolithic hunter-gatherers first entered North America from the North Asian Mammoth steppe via the Beringia land bridge which had formed between northeastern Siberia and western Alaska due to the lowering of sea level during the Last Glacial Maximum.

My suggestion would be to have it reworded (broken down) in this way:

Human settlement of the Americas began when Paleolithic hunter-gatherers first entered North America from the North Asian Mammoth steppe via the Beringia land bridge which had formed between northeastern Siberia and western Alaska. It is largely believed that this was due to the lowering of sea level during the Last Glacial Maximum.

Any better suggestions?Davidbena (talk) 01:10, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

I object to the term "settlement" as inaccurate, possibly a little OCD, but it is inaccurate to speak of "settlement" in the Paleolithic, when nobody was in fact sedentary. The term "peopling" is more adequate. I sympathise with your instinct to break down the run-on sentence, but "it is largely believed that" is an empty filler phrase. Such phrasing should only be used on Wikipedia if the text goes on to actually quantify the "largely" and cite an assessment of the prevalence of the majority vs. minority views. It isn't "largely believed" that a land bridge formed due to the lowering of sea levels. The formation of a land bridge pretty much implies a lowering of sea levels a fortiori. --dab (𒁳) 05:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

SettlementEdit

There was nothing wrong with my WP:BRD move to peopling of the Americas, but the move has now been reverted by User:Power~enwiki, an editor without any apparent involvement with the article, apparently purely on the mistaken bureaucratic attitude "can't have a move without proper WP:RM", not based on any engagement with or opinion on the topic. So now under "BRD" there would be the "discuss" part, but the editor hasn't deigned to leave any comment related to content. I believe in the old school approach to Wikipedia, where articles are written by people who engage with the topic and collaborate on it, and I am prepared to jump through random hoops imposed purely by rules-lawyering (as opposed to proper procedure when there is an actual, informed, coherent difference in opinion between editors), so the page will just remain under its current name unless somebody else thinks the rename was a good idea. --dab (𒁳) 06:20, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Settlement for some odd reason its the norm.......even in the media...pls review the topic before a move. --Moxy (talk) 06:28, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
A course
I would say I books like bellow set the norm
I don't know, dab, I've often found your moves to be in this area a bit puzzling, based on idiosyncratic understandings of the terminology rather than the sources. Case in point: who except an etymologist thinks "sedentary" when they hear "settlement"? Clearly not any of the experts Moxy has cited above. A little more caution in making sure there is a consensus (or at least no objection) before a move wouldn't hurt. – Joe (talk) 07:47, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

In my experience, "settlement" is more commonly used, and references to that term are found above. Google hits favor "settlement" about 10 to 1, though some of those refer to later European colonization. Without some explanation of why you feel the move is necessary/productive, I didn't feel a need to defend the status quo. I don't feel that the fact that these people were nomadic (and not sedentary) is a good reason for the suggested page move. power~enwiki (π, ν) 00:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

k cal BP explainedEdit

I just added one sentence explaining the notation, k cal BP after a number. The article uses phrases like about 19,000 years ago, then in one section shifts abruptly to this notation. I found two Wikipedia articles as links, and one Thoughtco article explaining that it means radiocarbon dating. I sought the answer to the question, when did native Americans arrive on the continent, and suddenly was seeing this opaque notation on maps, in the text. I suspect others might appreciate the explanation as well. I put the sentence after the first use in the article. I suppose once a person is used to it, that notation looks simple, but it was not an easy guess for me. I also formatted a reference, so it did not have duplicate information in it. --Prairieplant (talk) 23:15, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Berigian land bridge theory dubiousEdit

The article need to reflect on this new research questioning the Bering hypothesis:

The results of a multiple-author study by Danish, Canadian, and American scientists published in Nature in February 2016 revealed that "the first Americans, whether Clovis or earlier groups in unglaciated North America before 12.6 cal. kyr BP", are "unlikely" to "have travelled to North America from Siberia via the Bering land bridge[1] "via a corridor that opened up between the melting ice sheets in what is now Alberta and B.C. about 13,000 years ago" as many anthropologists have argued for decades.[2] The lead author, Mikkel Pedersen – a PhD student from University of Copenhagen – explained, "The ice-free corridor was long considered the principal entry route for the first Americans ... Our results reveal that it simply opened up too late for that to have been possible."[2] The scientists argued that by 10,000 years ago, the ice-free corridor in what is now Alberta and B.C "was gradually taken over by a boreal forest dominated by spruce and pine trees" and that "Clovis people likely came from the south, not the north, perhaps following wild animals such as bison."[1][2]

I suggest that part of the lede to be modified, else the article will continue too look like antiquated one written by 20th century Clovis professors. Sietecolores (talk) 13:58, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@Sietecolores: The article already covers the Clovis-first versus coastal migration debate in some depth (Settlement of the Americas#Migration routes) and correctly reflects the current scientific consensus that a coastal route is more likely. But there's no significant debate that the Americas were initially populated via a "land bridge" over the Bering Strait. That is accepted under both the Clovis-first and coastal hypotheses. The study and article you quote is about the subsequent movement of people through an ice free corridor, postulated by the Clovis-first theory. This isn't the same thing as the land bridge. There's a map in the CBC article that illustrates this quite well. – Joe (talk) 14:35, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
"entered North America from the North Asian Mammoth steppe via the Beringia land bridge" makes it all sound like Mammoth hunters walked over a landbrige. That need to be clarified for the layman. Sietecolores (talk) 15:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b Postglacial viability and colonization in North America's ice-free corridor. Nature (Report). August 10, 2016. Bibcode:2016Natur.537...45P. doi:10.1038/nature19085. Retrieved August 10, 2016. Mikkel W. Pedersen, Anthony Ruter, Charles Schweger, Harvey Friebe, Richard A. Staff, Kristian K. Kjeldsen, Marie L. Z. Mendoza, Alwynne B. Beaudoin, Cynthia Zutter, Nicolaj K. Larsen, Ben A. Potter, Rasmus Nielsen, Rebecca A. Rainville, Ludovic Orlando, David J. Meltzer, Kurt H. Kjær, Eske Willerslev
  2. ^ a b c Chung, Emily (10 August 2016). "Popular theory on how humans populated North America can't be right, study shows: Ice-free corridor through Alberta, B.C. not usable by humans until after Clovis people arrived". CBC News. Archived from the original on 11 August 2016. Retrieved 10 August 2016.
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