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Home From School: The Children of CarlisleEdit

I recently created an article for the film Home From School: The Children of Carlisle. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

More Style Guide Stuff - Naming Conventions (Nation)Edit

I can't seem to find the stuff we have written up about this. I know we have an ongoing consensus about it, but we need to put it at WP:NCP, because general editors don't usually know to ask here. - CorbieVreccan 21:28, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I left a note on Talk:Rutherford Falls‎. I don't know if listing guides for listing tribal affiliations has been spelled out before (but I don't know every corner of Wikipedia). Yuchitown (talk) 21:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown
Thanks again for that.
I've added a note about it to our WP:NDNID essay, along with an embedded shortcut: NDN-NATION. I'm going to once again attempt to add this to the MOS, as well. - CorbieVreccan 21:50, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Just a heads-up, I ran into that shortcut and NDNID-RS while patrolling cross-namespace redirects. Since policy/guideline/essay shortcuts are always in projectspace (although on rare occasions major ones like WP:ANI are duplicated without the WP: in mainspace), and since there was no backward compatibility broken by moving these two brand-new redirects, I've moved them to WP:NDN-NATION and WP:NDNID-RS respectively, and have updated the links. Hope that's not a bother; if it is, I'm happy to self-revert and bring them to RfD instead. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 05:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
@Tamzin: I've always put them in projectspace before, but for some reason, this time I was patterning them on other essay links that didn't have the prefix and mistakenly assumed the prefix wasn't needed. Sorry about that. One problem, however. They're not going to the subsections now, just to the top of the essay. I'm not sure why. Can you see why? Thanks! - CorbieVreccan 17:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
ETA: Example: MOS:ETHNICITY. Is that the only way to make it go directly to the subsection in a shortcut? - CorbieVreccan 17:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
@CorbieVreccan:   Fixed. Sorry about that. I hadn't noticed that you'd done the redirects based on the shortcut anchors rather than the section names, so didn't think to update them when I changed the shortcut templates. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
That should do it! Thanks! - CorbieVreccan 18:08, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I just found this page. Didn't even know it existed: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes). We definitely need to update/improve it. - CorbieVreccan 18:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Amen, that needs an overhaul and links to WP:NDNID. Love how "tribes" is in the title, but they declared the term tribe is offensive. Yuchitown (talk) 19:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown
I know! Where to start with that page?! I opened it up with a mind to massively overhaul, and possibly rename/move, then decided to let everyone see it and take it all in first. I would also be quite fine with you taking a pass at it first. I mean, I'm glad a page or placeholder exists as part of the naming conventions structure, erm, but it really says something that it has so many problems and that it was so hard to find. Overhaul time. - CorbieVreccan 20:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Haaland v. BrackeenEdit

I've expanded this article to reflect the 5th Circuit panel and en banc opinions, and submitted a GAN on it. If anyone could take a look, I would be appreciative. GregJackP Boomer! 08:20, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


I pulled a lot of very dubious material that was original research, uncited, or based on self-published material from the Abenaki article, but it could still use a lot of help. There's very little about Abenaki today in Quebec. Any assistance welcome! Yuchitown (talk) 16:11, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown

White Sands fossil footprintsEdit

I just created a brief draft for the recently discovered White Sands fossil footprints. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 19:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Discussion about naming conventions for tribal nationsEdit

Hi all, I recently noticed that the Wikipedia article naming conventions don't do a very good job of accounting for the unique political circumstances of tribal nations within the borders of the US. I've made my case for this over on this this talk page. If you're interested, or would like to participate in the discussion about whether and how to change these conventions, please drop by and leave a comment. Thanks! Aquaticonions (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Re "naming conventions" and "accounting for the unique political circumstances of tribal nations," I want to call your attention to the Kizh Nation (pronounced keech) or, as the Spanish referred to them, the Gabrielenos or Kichirinos "The People of the Willowhouse" whose culture predates contact with the Spanish in the mid 1530s. In the early 1990s non-natives led by people in academia established the Tongva-Gabrieleno and the Tongva/Gabrieleno organizations and began to promote the term "Tongva" while demoting the Kizh (Wikipedia, etc.), as the ivory tower of academia tends to do. There never was a tribe of Tongva before 1992. It's not the first time Native Americans have been taken advatage of; however, Kizh tribal spokesperson Ernest Perez Teutimez Salas soon cut off contact with individuals belonging to the T-G and T/G after its leaders got what they wanted (“Gabrieleño/Tongva Springs Foundation”), but the damage had been done. Why just the other day, Larry Sanger, founder of Wikipedia, warned that the website can no longer be trusted — insisting it is now just “propaganda” for academia and the left-leaning “establishment” ( Harryawhite (talk) 00:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC) Harryawhite (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
I'll just mention that after Sanger left Wikipedia, he started Citizendium, where only academics could be 'editors' in most fields. ('Authors' could contribute, but only 'editors', who had to be topic experts with credentials, could approve articles. At one point the people running the site said that it wasn't enough to have a terminal degree in a field. You had to have a position connected to that field in an academic institution.) I guess he's changed his mind about academics since then. - Donald Albury 23:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Obviously Harryawhite (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Johnny Depp againEdit

Coatrack issues and OR. See recent edits and Talk:Johnny_Depp#Depps Native Heritage {sic} - CorbieVreccan 19:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Further input needed: see Talk:Trail_of_Tears#Revisiting_genocide_in_ArticleEdit

Please provide your input; informal RfA. Thanks, GenQuest "scribble" 12:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

WP:VPP#Lenient Policies for Native American Pages and "millions of tribesEdit

What particularly interests me here is the claim " millions of tribes have been wiped from our textbooks are rarely written about." Seems unlikely Doug Weller talk 11:15, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[ Article of things]" ''''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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