Talk:Sacred Heart Cathedral, Rajkot

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Achayan in topic Common name?

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. No evidence was offered in the discussion that this church is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of Prem Mandir. Even though Prem Mandir Vrindavan is a new article it is getting a respectable number of page hits. The Vrindavan temple building is said to be elaborate and expensive. Unless further study shows that the article on one temple is much more likely to be sought by readers than the other, it makes sense to have a DAB page. EdJohnston (talk) 22:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)Reply


Prem Mandir GujaratPrem Mandir – The page was recently moved from Prem Mandir to Prem Mandir Gujarat by KuwarOnline (talk · contribs), with the stated rationale There are few more temples/mandir using same name. There is no need for disambiguation because 1) there is only one article about Prem Mandir on Wikipedia 2) This cathedral was the first place to be given this name and thus has primacy 3) This is (arguably) the most notable place with this name. The Discoverer (talk) 20:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

The Discoverer (talk · contribs) I will be creating new article on prem mandir, mathura(India) soon. So its technically required to have disambiguation. About primacy lets not fight over it. Lets have what normally wikipedia provides. The disambiguation page. KuwarOnlineTalk 04:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
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Common name?

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@‎Achayan, you moved this page from Prem Mandir Gujarat to Sacred Heart Syro-Malabar Cathedral, Rajkot, citing WP:COMMONNAME. WP:COMMONNAME states that "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources.". Prem Mandir seems to be a common name in the vernacular, while Sacred Heart Syro-Malabar Cathedral seems to be the official name. Can you show that Sacred Heart Syro-Malabar Cathedral rather than Prem Mandir is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources? The Discoverer (talk) 15:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Official website of the Syro-Malabar Church: http://www.syromalabarchurch.in › Parish › Rajkot Eparchy. And the official website of Rajkot eparchy is here. And I know several Carmelites of Mary Immaculate priests from Rajkot personally and all of them address this church as SH or Sacred Heart. Prem Mandir is hardly used among common people. All the articles in Malayalam dailies relating to Rajkot eparchy also mention it as Sacred Heart Syro-Malabar Cathedral. If you still feel that the moving of the page was a mistake, please feel free to undo it. Thanks and Cheers. Achayan (talk) 08:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
The official website of the eparchy uses both 'Prem Mandir' and 'Sacred Heart of Jesus Cathedral Church'. I'll take your word for it, though. Still, 'Prem Mandir' is quite widely used and we should at least mention in the article that it is also known as 'Prem Mandir'. Cheers :) The Discoverer (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
Sure, Agree to your point. Achayan (talk) 14:08, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply