Talk:Minouche Shafik

Latest comment: 4 hours ago by 2600:1700:98D8:1010:54B7:7F50:42CD:363E in topic Controversy around Anti-Jewish Bias

Notability edit

I have worked with Minouche and so can vouch for her notability. She is globally influential in development matters - just ask Nick Stern of the Stern Report who was her supervisor at the L.S.E.. I am adding some further links. You only have to Google her to establish notability. She is incidentally the highest ranking 'Muslim origin' public officer in the entire OECD group of countries and is of course one of the VERY few women in the grouping to have reached the highest civil service grade. Oecdsec (talk) 21:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Neutrality and correction edit

My name is Marisol Grandon and I am a British civil servant working at the Department for International Development. I notice that this entry about Minouche Shafik has a factual inaccuracy. She has not had a chauffeur since January 2010.

I also note that the first paragraph of this entry is not written in the neutral tone set out in Wikipedia's guidance for biographies[of living persons].—Preceding unsigned comment added by MsLibertad (talkcontribs) 11:24, 16 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

It's a shame you removed the information from the first paragraph. I think it is quite note-worthy that such a great proportion of spending on international development goes straight into the pockets of fat cat bureaucrats like Shafik... Vorpaul (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Shafik is not a "fat bureucrat", Cameron is.Other dictionaries are better (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

No mention about the expenses issue in DFID under her watch or her political motivations at the expense of the poor she purports to serve? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.195.14.64 (talk) 11:02, 29 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Outside Observers edit

I have removed a comment that said outside observers rated DFID under Shafik's tenure as the best performing UK department.

The cited reference was to a Cilvil Service review (hardly 'Outside') that said nothing of the sort.

In usual circumspect civil service language it merely notes 'improvement'.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Modern Cromwell (talkcontribs) 16:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

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last update edit

You say Virgiana praises the President while Speaker Johnson ask for her resignation however i just watched the event and Virginia along with other elected officials all called for her immediate resignation. 2600:1702:5221:9B70:BD15:D9F3:FCD:9C59 (talk) 20:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Originally, on April 18, Foxx said she was 'glad' to see the NYPD called in:
https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=410471
https://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2024/04/18/house-committee-on-education-and-the-workforce-chair-releases-statement-in-support-of-student-arrests/
She seems to have changed her opinion. Jjazz76 (talk) 01:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
She might have heard how callig police worked for G. Kirk at Columbia. T.W.Hamilto 2603:7000:6A00:32DA:1577:B453:68DB:AF11 (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Father's Land Nationalization edit

The bulk of Egyptian land nationalization happened a decade before her birth. While her father did have his land nationalized, the sources are consistent with that happening long before she moved to the U.S. at age 4. The current text implied the nationalization was the proximate cause for their move, but it seems likely that isn't true.

LondonYoung (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

add subject of doctor doctoral dissertation edit

""she wrote her doctoral dissertation on the role of the private and public sectors in Egypt."" Shafik - @Columbia

only has 1 well-cited publication in her life, in Oxford Econ Papers 1994.

This paper is lifted almost entirely from a 1992 report coauthored with consultant not credited in the publication. This is wholesale intellectual theft, not subtle plagiarism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/03/01/an-economists-quest-for-many-answers/33a6c55a-8447-4822-a070-bbc09215b4ca/ 79.176.106.171 (talk) 14:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

manush shafic background edit

in the article the was a gradual diffrence from : Egyptian-American economist,

thru

is an Egyptian-born American economist who has been serving as the

thru

is an American academic

and currently at

is a British-American academic and economist


Describing her as British-American goes Against WP:BLPSTYLE:

  • the word british (nor any of the abbreviations or Synonym) dose not show up in the cited article.
  • the word American (nor any of the abbreviations or Synonym) dose not show up in the cited article.
  • hiding the fact that she is immigration to the USA. (which is controversial topic)
  • hide the fact she is from a Muslim background. (which also a controversial topic)
  • push the fact she is from a country that has been part of the conflict (IMO because this is a controversial topic)
  • there are plenty of source who choses to make to element of her notables:

few examples for how other have describe her:

Christine Lagarde, the president of the European Central Bank and a former IMF managing director, cites her attentive and inclusive leadership style. They worked together for three years in the early 2010s when Shafik was one of Lagarde’s deputy managing directors. “Minouche is a subtle mixture of the orient and the occident; she is as Egyptian as she is European as she is British as she is American,” Lagarde says. “She supports other people, especially women, when they deserve it. She does not suffer fools gladly but will give everyone a chance.”

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2023/09/PIE-the-everywhere-economist-minouche-shafik


article headline - "columbia names first women and muslin neamat-shafik"

and from the article: ...Raecalling her upbringing and her family’s departure from Egypt

https://clarionindia.net/columbia-names-first-woman-and-muslim-nemat-shafik-as-president-to-lead-the-university/

(the cited article in question) https://web.archive.org/web/20240430033923/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/nyregion/columbia-university-campus-protests.html

the daily mail has describes her: "The Muslim-American, born in Egypt" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13345205/Columbia-University-President-Minouche-Shafik-holed-enormous-mansion-24-7-security-Tesla-driveway-anti-Israel-mob-holds-school-hostage.html

my proposed wording:

is an Egyptian born Muslim economist with British-American academic background 79.176.106.171 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 May 2024 edit

Change the part in her bio claiming the pro-Palestinian protests are anti-semitic, and replace with “pro-Palestinian.” Claiming the protests are anti-semitic is biased and leaning towards one side of the war. Plus is not factually correct as both Israelites and Palestinians are semitic, being of that region.

Definition: “ relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family. 2. relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.” Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

semitic meaning https://g.co/kgs/cieoJje 2601:282:1A7E:C1C0:5D:E53E:7B3C:C775 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Controversy around Anti-Jewish Bias edit

Ms. Shaffir has created a hostile environment for Jewish students and faculty that needs to be addressed. The school has clearly violated discrimination of students and faculty based on religion and national origin. Further, collective punishment by these activists is another failure of her tenure. These issues need to be noted for the record as these violations are not in line with an American university’s mission. 2600:1700:98D8:1010:54B7:7F50:42CD:363E (talk) 18:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply