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Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2016

Under the Life and career section, The article states that her father was a famous country singer, but he is still alive. So the article should state he **is** a famous country singer. That change is reflected in the html code below.

Life and career

Done TrueCRaysball | ^#RaysUp 06:07, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

1992–2003: Childhood and career beginnings

Destiny Hope Cyrus was born on November 23, 1992 in <a href="/wiki/Franklin,_Tennessee" title="Franklin, Tennessee">Franklin, Tennessee</a>, a suburb of <a href="/wiki/Nashville,_Tennessee" title="Nashville, Tennessee">Nashville</a>. She is the daughter of Leticia Jean "Tish" (née Finley) and <a href="/wiki/Billy_Ray_Cyrus" title="Billy Ray Cyrus">Billy Ray Cyrus</a>; her father is a famous country singer. Jflores33 (talk) 05:18, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2016

I just want to say the miley cyrus was born in Nashville tennessee

Lillmonkey111233 (talk) 20:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: False information. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Pronouns?

I've never seen Cyrus state a pronoun preference in any interviews, even those directly referencing gender and a rejection of gender labels. A brief rummage on Cyrus' homepage doesn't show a bio so I can't pull pronouns from that.

With nonbinary people especially it's generally wise to avoid using gendered pronouns until the person asks you to do otherwise, and so my instinct is to do the same with Cyrus. People assuming a pronoun and Cyrus not openly objecting isn't really a citation. Does anyone know of a source for Cyrus' pronouns? If not, should we edit this page to have neutral pronouns? About 75% of people whose genders don't fit the binary are comfortable with singular "they", compared to 25% and 23% for he and she respectively.

Cassolotl (talk) 14:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

In support of using "they" when talking about Cyrus, this interview with Cyrus includes a description of Cyrus identifying strongly with a nonbinary person, and using "they" to describe them throughout. Miley Cyrus: 'I didn't understand my gender or sexuality at first', October 2016.

'I saw one human in particular who didn't identify as male or female. Looking at them, they were both: beautiful and sexy and tough but vulnerable and feminine but masculine. And I related to that person more than I related to anyone in my life.'

Cassolotl (t.alk) 14:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

We wouldn't consider such a change unless to reflect pronoun usage in, the preponderance of reliable sources. The first few random major news articles I read about Cyrus refer to her as "she", and so that's what we'll do here. --Laser brain (talk) 15:21, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

While I fully support the use of the pronouns preferred by the subject, I see nothing to indicate Cyrus' preferences. While it is often possible to write around some usages, there are instances in the article where efforts to do so would be awkward. In those instances we are left with either "default" pronouns or rewriting based on what we are guessing Cyrus wants (while unnecessarily drawing attention to one aspect of Cyrus' life). Yeah, I don't want us to have or demonstrate a cisnormative climate, but we've got clearer battles to settle (e.g. "The Wachowski Brothers" vs. "The Wachowskis" in virtually every article relating to them). As soon as we have something directly from Cyrus, please bring this up again. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:35, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I do understand. I also feel that if we can't use "they" until the person states a preference, we surely shouldn't be using "she" either. But I do understand. Thanks for your responses. :)

Cassolotl (talk) 00:00, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Categories change proposal

I notice that this page is in the categories GA-Class WikiProject Women articles and WikiProject Women articles.

Since Miley Cyrus doesn't identify as a woman at all and we have several references confirming this in interviews with Cyrus and Cyrus has been very clear on this topic, putting this page in categories for women seems inappropriate. Are there nonbinary/genderqueer equivalents?

Cassolotl (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Being in the category is not stating that Cyrus is a woman, only that this article is of interest to the WikiProject: Women. Similarly, Young Earth creationism is of interest to the Skepticism and Science WikiProjects, though Young Earth creationism is clearly neither science nor skepticism. - SummerPhD^v2.0 01:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Ahhhh I see! Makes sense, thanks. Then I am even more interested to know if there is a nonbinary/genderqueer equivalent. Cassolotl (talk) 12:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies / Person. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:34, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2017

Can i have your permission of editing this page? 203.106.99.103 (talk) 18:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Hi, I'm sorry but this page is semi-protected. If you'd like to propose an edit here to the article, an editor will look at it and implement the change. If you'd like to edit articles on Wikipedia that are semi-protected, I recommend you register an account and wait until you become auto confirmed. st170e 19:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC) st170e 19:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Twerk released by Bieber?????????

112.134.85.100 (talk) 15:23, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Bieber's vocals were autotuned and edited to post "Twerk" in his own wikia made by wiki user Justine77 7

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:08, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Citation needed

Geraldo Perez

• "That's covered in the rest of the article..." Wikipedia is not an RS
• "linked article to her grandfather" same as above, and thank you for alerting me about that. His death and that he was her "paternal grandfather" both need citations.
• Need citation that she "officially" changed her name; the date given of "2008"; that he died in 2006 (again, Wiki not an RS).
• Please do not delete the template again until properly sourced. If you have a problem, take it here. The Kingfisher (talk) 16:05, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2017

Update the Miley Cyrus Net Worth source link from https://web.archive.org/web/20170305194510/https://www.earnthenecklace.com/miley-cyrus-net-worth/ to https://www.earnthenecklace.com/miley-cyrus-net-worth/ Swap.pate (talk) 09:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Using the archived link i preferred because it won't be vulnerable to link rot and disappear. The content is the same from either link. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 04:04, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

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RfC about White House petition to make Party in the USA the national anthem

There is an ongoing Request for Comment about whether to include a petition started by Elijah Daniel in the article about him, which was a White House petition to make Party in the U.S.A. the national anthem.

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2017

Genre: Pop, Country 75.143.156.125 (talk) 00:56, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 02:05, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Wealth Section

Under the wealth section, it may be useful information to include where her wealth was accumulated. For example, how much of her $360 million came from her days on Hannah Montana? How much did she accumulate from her Bangerz album? Thank you.--Efishers (talk) 17:44, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Video of Miley

In the section regarding Miley smoking salvia with a bong: there are multiple YouTube videos showing her smoking the bong, which may be an interesting or useful part to include as part of her overall controversy. Thank you. --Efishers (talk) 17:47, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Grammar edit request, 5 May 2018

Lead section: "highly-sexual" should be "highly sexual" (the -ly ending already marks the word as an adverb modifying the following word, so the hyphen is unnecessary).

2003-2009 section: "fourth, best-selling" should be "fourth best-selling" (the comma would separate the two, implying that she is fourth (at something unspecified) and also best-selling). 2.24.119.66 (talk) 01:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2018

On July 12th 2018 Miley cyrus deleted her instagram post 122.174.46.50 (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Danski454 (talk) 16:55, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2018

Add a final paragraph to point 3. Philanthropy. Since it doesn't talk about an important campaign launched by Cyrus.

On June 15, 2015, Cyrus unleashed the campaign #InstaPride in collaboration with Instagram. The campaign features a series of portraits starring transgender and gender-expansive people, which were posted to her Instagram feed with the hashtags “#HappyHippiePresents” and “#InstaPride”. It was aimed at encouraging diversity and tolerance by showing these people in a positive light as examples for others who might be struggling to figure themselves out, as well as a reference point for people who didn’t know personally anyone in that situation. Cyrus was the one behind the camera for the photoshoot the whole time and even interviewed her 14 subjects to share their personal stories along with their portraits. She decided to predominate the color yellow since she believes it is a happy and not sexualized color. She said she wanted to bring attention and celebrate people who wouldn’t normally find themselves being the stars of a photoshoot or wouldn’t find themselves on the cover of a magazine.

Sources:

https://www.refinery29.com/2015/06/89215/miley-cyrus-insta-pride https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/miley-cyrus-launches-instapride-campaign-to-honor-transgender-people-62976/ https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/25/miley-cyrus-instapride_n_7656390.html http://time.com/3917249/miley-cyrus-instagram-instapride/</ref> Ab2CM (talk) 08:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done JC7V-constructive zone 00:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Filmography

How is this a GA when her filmography section only lists the movies with no mention of the roles she played in them? Also, why does it not even have a television section? In fact not even a single mention of the Hannah Montana TV series aside from the Concert film and HM:The Movie...--NØ 19:04, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit: The article contains no mention of her cameo in Sex & the City either. If these issues aren't fixed soon then a reassessment may be necessary.--NØ 19:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Reorganize the page

This page seems off for the style. I'm looking for the specific information to post on style guide and will add it later. It needs to be reorganized, in my opinion. It was missing the personal life section so I added it. It also appears the lead is too long. Anyone else have an opinion? P37307 (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2018

Miley Cyrus married Liam Hemsworth on December 23rd, 2018. They had a private ceremony at Cyrus's Tennessee home. Ukenglitstudent (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Source? Right now it's an internet rumor, not good enough. Acroterion (talk) 21:29, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Someone has made this edit already. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:07, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Name Change

An article has surfaced that Miley Cyrus adopted Liam Hemsworth's last name, but I've seen some inconsistencies as to how that should be represented. For example Sarah Michelle Gellar's legal name is Sarah Michelle Prinze, and on her page that name is reflected as an alias in her infobox and the name change is referred to later on in the article. I think that'd be appropriate for this page as well. Sambres8 (talk) 04:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Full legal name, if known, should be the first mention in the article per MOS:FULLNAME. Gellar's article originally stated Sarah Michelle Prinze, nee Gellar and it is currently incorrect. Geraldo Perez (talk) 08:03, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Understood thanks for the follow up. Sambres8 (talk) 20:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Put at the introduction of this article, it looks as if the name Miley Cyrus is dated and that this page's title is thus now incorrect. Georgia guy (talk) 20:33, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Article name follows WP:COMMONNAME, first mention follows MOS:FULLNAME. See John Wayne for existing example where they differ. There are lots of cases where the legal name differs from how a person is most known. We have a source she changed her legal name so that belongs in first mention. Most people are aware that actors may have a stage name that differs from their legal name so that should cause no confusion. If she gets more know by new name, that would support a change of name for the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

The John Wayne article says that he is known by that name professionally even if not legally. Thus it has both names in the "first mention" description. Georgia guy (talk) 20:56, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Opening could also add know as "Miley Cyrus" in bold but generally the née in front of the birth surname next to the legal name is considered sufficient. I prefer and originally put Miley Ray Hemsworth[cite] (born Destiny Hope Cyrus; November 23, 1992), known as Miley Cyrus, is an American singer, songwriter, and actress, but others changed it to way it is now. Other way to list is "Miley Ray (Cyrus) Hemsworth" but that is less tolerated by other editors with the née construction preferred. Even when other names are in the same sentence the full legal name should be the first thing a reader sees followed by previous and alternatives in bold since most have redirects pointing to them. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Billy Ray Cyrus' Daughter listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Billy Ray Cyrus' Daughter. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. NØ 19:20, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Personal Life?

So, what -- she doesn't rate to have a personal life, like every other schmo? She has to have her life and her career frankensteined together into a single, chimæra-like hybrid??

Nuttyskin (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not have a standard organizational structure for biographies. Some are chronological, some are by topic, some are a mixture of the two or some other arrangement. It has nothing whatsoever to do with who "rates". - SummerPhD^v2.0 23:24, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Kaitlynn Carter

All the magazines are now talking about Miley's new relationship with Kaitlynn Carter.[1][2][3][4][5][6] Is it not time to add it to the Personal life section of the article? 185.198.242.39 (talk) 12:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

In the Personal life section, please change

She began dating blogger Kaitlynn Carter in August 2019, following her VMAs performance of “Slide Away” that month. They were spotted kissing at the VMAs during backstage video that aired before the commercial break. They were also spotted moving in together in a ‘hidden hills’ area of LA.

to

Since September 2019, she is in a relationship with Kaitlynn Carter, the separated wife of Brody Jenner, who appeared with him in The Hills: New Beginnings.[7][8][9][10][11][12]

More encyclopedic and properly sourced. 185.198.242.162 (talk) 11:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Done, didn't mention The Hill as the sentence was getting a bit confusing. This is an improvement from the previous sentence, but we should maybe consider not including this paragraph at all since Wikipedia is not a tabloid and we don't need to mention every single relationship. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Clarification of meaning of first mention

We who know her as a singer know her as Miley Cyrus, but all people who know her personally (that is, independent of her profession) know her as Miley Hemsworth. Any corrections?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2020

In the section "2003–2009: Hannah Montana and early musical releases", add that: During COVID-19 quarantine in March 2020, Cyrus addressed Hilary Duff during Bright Minded: Live With Miley on Instagram saying, "The only reason I wanted it [Hannah Montana] was so I could do whatever you did" on Duff's role on Lizzie McGuire. Cyrus continued by saying, "I just wanted to copy you no matter what. So I just wanted to say thank you again for just inspiring me."

Citation: "Cosmopolitan: Miley Cyrus Told Hilary Duff She Auditioned for ‘Hannah Montana’ Only Because of Her" (Link: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a31944803/miley-cyrus-hilary-duff-auditioned-hannah-montana-lizzie-mcguire/) A.alshorbagi (talk) 23:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I do not think Cosmopolitan magazine is a reliable source in this instance. See WP:RS#Cosmopolitan. Aasim 22:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2020

The category "American film actors" needs to be changed to "American film actresses", along with her other categories. 81.132.188.11 (talk) 15:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 15:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2020

spelling error in Chris hemsworth' name 2600:1700:7252:1110:D155:CDE5:2086:E2A (talk) 16:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:44, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2020

Add Miley's last music 'SHE IS COMING' as her last album. GalaxyGirl1123 (talk) 11:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Danski454 (talk) 11:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

There is no such thing as "gender fluid."

Gender is not "fluid." It is not relevant what she "identifies as." Being a tomboy is not a gender. She is a female. Wikipedia should stop promoting far-left extremist anti-science propaganda and support biological reality instead. Also, there is no such thing as "pansexual." "Pansexual" is not a word. The correct word is bisexual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.79.251.230 (talk) 18:17, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Considering there is a) an article on the matter Non-binary_gender#Definitions_and_identity and b) it's something she has identified herself as and c) your opinion doesn't really change the existence of a fairly large population of people not using binary gender as an identifier... I don't really see your point. Perhaps you could spend your time educating yourself on the concept before persisting your own personal bias. In any case, as Wikipedia strives for having a WP:NPOV, the article merely states how the subject identifies and links to the appropriate articles on the subject. Take care. CaffeinAddict (talk) 19:59, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2020

COLOURISTIC (talk) 00:19, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

change the pronouns to they/them. miley is non-binary.

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Cyrus has not identified as non-binary but instead as gender fluid, which is different. Cyrus hasn't apparently specified the proper pronouns in any WP:RS and even the articles in which this is discussed use "she/her" with no objection. Until Cyrus specifies the proper pronouns, we can't assume that they/them is appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus should be recognised as part of the LGBT community, not a supporter

Under the "Sexuality and Gender" heading change "Cyrus is a supporter of the LGBT community." to "Cyrus is a member and advocate for the LGBT community." or similar.

Cyrus is pansexual and genderfluid which makes her a member of the LGBT community, not a supporter. If it's a reference to her philanthropic work and using her platform then "advocate" would be a better phrase. A supporter would be someone who is heterosexual and cisgender being an ally to the LGBT community, not a member of the community being vocal. MorganRGD (talk) 16:13, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - hako9 (talk) 00:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks hako9 for the response.

The source claiming to evidence she is a "supporter" of the community is from 2013 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#cite_note-305 but she has since publicly come out as pansexual in 2015 https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/news/a27013/miley-cyrus-elle-uk-october-2015/

The issue is a definitional one. If she is pansexual or genderfluid, she is a member of the LGBT community. A supporter of the community would typically be a Straight Ally. It could be reworded to say that she is an advocate for the community that she's a member of, or a support of their rights, but to say she is a supporter of the community strongly implies she is not actually part of that community - which isn't accurate, she is. It may have been common, assuming she was straight and cisgender, to say she was a supporter of the community in 2013 because she was advocating for the rights of a group she wasn't a member of. But that hasn't been accurate since at least 2015 when she publicly identified as part of that community.

Given the paragraph is talking about her philanthropic work for the rights of the LGBT community, "advocate" would suit better than supporter, with the previous paragraph talking about her identity.

Her softcore porn work can be found here: http://www.plastikstudios.com/mileycyrus https://leakedpie.com/miley-cyrus-totally-nude/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.59.113.27 (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

You can be a member of a community AND a supporter/ally/advocate. CaffeinAddict (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2020

72.252.198.136 (talk) 18:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)she used to be a great at maths

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Maka^⭐(talk) 18:41, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2020

She is now 28, not 27. Jhunter92 (talk) 04:31, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done EN-Jungwon^Talk 16:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2020

Inside the "Personal Life" section under "Diet", it talks about Miley's dogs:

Cyrus adopted an abandoned bulldog in August 2020. Daisy the bulldog was rescued by firefighters in April 2020, and joined Cyrus' other adopted dogs in August.

I am 99% sure there is no relation between Miley's dogs and her diet. I suggest prefacing the topic of her dogs with a subtitle labeled similarly to "Other", or moving the topic of her dogs to the top of the "Personal Life" section where there are no other preceding subtitles. ScholarlyCrow (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done EN-Jungwon^Talk 16:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Removal of sourced content

[13], the edit summary was "superfluous" but this is well sourced content. Psychologist Guy (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Award nomination

• 32nd GLAAD Media Awards

---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2021

Change all she/her pronouns to they/them as Miley Cyrus is non-binary. Aylakrys (talk) 20:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Please provide sourcing for this. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

One source is here, for example: https://time.com/3918308/miley-cyrus-transgender-rights-instapride/ --Compl4xx (talk) 13:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021

Change "On April 3, 2021, Cyrus will perform at the NCAA March Madness Final Four in Indianapolis with the frontline health care workers in the audience." to "On April 3, 2021, Cyrus performed at the NCAA March Madness Final Four in Indianapolis with the frontline health care workers in the audience." Liinnh (talk) 19:30, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done Sennecaster (What now?) 19:44, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Amazing!!! Allzil (talk) 07:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

"Ciley Myrus" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Ciley Myrus. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 20#Ciley Myrus until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

WOW you are so smart 😍😍 Allzil (talk) 07:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

A person or a group?

As far as I know, Miley Cyrus is a person, not a group. So why does the article use plural pronouns throughout? Shouldn't these be singular pronouns? --Westwind273 (talk) 13:08, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

I know that "they" is used for an individual non-binary person if they prefer it. However, I did not see any source saying that she prefers that pronoun. I saw the linked interview where she (the pronoun for her used throughout the article) says she is gender-fluid. Every other article I have seen about her also calls her she. So my question is, for someone to be called they on Wikipedia, do they have to specifically say they choose that pronoun or is it enough for them to say they are gender-fluid? TahaGhassemi (talk) 17:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

MOS:GID says "reflect the person's latest expressed gender self-identification as reported in the most recent reliable sources". I read that as saying, being gender fluid is not carte blanche to change all pronouns. Only change when the person expresses a preference for it. - X201 (talk) 09:08, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

I thought Wikipedia was supposed to reflect the practices of the majority of reliable sources. It seems that almost all news outlets still use she/her for Miley. For example, this September article in Billboard https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9632541/miley-cyrus-panic-attack-summerfest --Westwind273 (talk) 04:56, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Removal of Pet subsection

Cyrus has many pets and to list all of them would be lengthy but also unnecessary so why mention just a couple. Wikipedia is WP:NOT an endless collection of information and this kind of info seems trivial. Any opposed to the removal? If so, please state MOS reasoning. Thanks! LADY LOTUS • TALK 12:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)