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Latest comment: 1 month ago by QuietHere in topic Cedric Smith and Carrickfergus
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Set On YouEdit

Hi, comments welcome at Talk:Set on You#Redir target. TIA Andrewa (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MENA Chart achievementsEdit

Topping the US Hot 100 or UK Singles chart is a big deal for foreign artists, so what kind of weight does a MENA chart achievement hold by comparison? If a song is the first by a singer from a particular country or of a particular genre to top said chart, is that a notable enough achievement to mention in the Commercial performance section? This is the Forbes ME article that sparked my question. Unsure if the Record Charts talk page would've been the better place to ask. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Project-independent quality assessmentsEdit

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:24, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A-class article assessmentEdit

How to start article assessment for A-class? It's an article about the song "Fest i hela huset" by Swedish musician Basshunter. Eurohunter (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cedric Smith and CarrickfergusEdit

There is a young account dedicated to ensuring that Cedric Smith (actor) gets sufficiently prominent credit in two articles, Carrickfergus (song) and Elemental (Loreena McKennitt album), for singing the lead in that song. I wonder whether anyone other than me thinks he is adequately mentioned elsewhere on the same pages. —Tamfang (talk) 01:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shouldn't be listed at Carrickfergus (song) due to the lack of a source, but then again nothing in that section is sourced so it's all up in the air at the moment. For Elemental (Loreena McKennitt album), check if he's credited on the album's liner notes. If so, it can be assumed to be sourced to that and that should be fine (though the article is otherwise a bit slim on coverage). I did remove the mention in the track listing because that's where writing credits should be going, but otherwise I don't see any immediate issues aside from potential notability. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And now that I've looked at the edit history on Elemental and see that the track listing credit was at issue in the first place, let me emphasize that you were correct to remove it and also to come here to discuss the issue rather than continue edit-warring. Hopefully * Mistress of Magic * understands that multiple editors disagreeing with their change is a sign of why it's incorrect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've sternly warned them for edit warring and personal attacks. Sorry I did not see this sooner. Please alert me if there are any further violations. Or even if you're just having general issues of editors blatantly breaking policies. Sergecross73 msg me 12:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've reverted both edits one last time, believing I was right to do so though realizing after that I've basically just extended the edit war which was a silly move on my part. Didn't want those changes to stand, especially after all the mess over them where it's been made clear that consensus is against them, but if that was the wrong move then I apologize for making the mess any amount bigger. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The onus is on Mistress of Magic right now. They're ignoring WP:V, WP:BURDEN, and WP:BRD. They cannot opt out of sourcing and discussion. Sergecross73 msg me 12:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Somehow To Drive the Cold Winter Away has so far escaped such attention. —Tamfang (talk) 22:41, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That one only says the song "features vocals by Cedric Smith", not that his are the lead vocals which seems to be Mistress' main concern thus far. Since HE isn't the MAIN vocalist, he doesn't need UNDENIABLE credit where credit is due ! But in all seriousness, that's probably why they haven't touched it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FfD noticeEdit

Launched two FfD queries the other day (both here) which haven't gotten any responses yet. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]