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Sorry (Madonna song)Edit

Sorry (Madonna song) was delisted as a GA in October 3, but the article still needs a quality reassessment. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 05:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Christmas Saves The Year capitalizationEdit

I recently moved the Twenty One Pilots' song "Christmas Saves The Year" to lowercase "the", and was reverted at this difference. I wanted to bring it here to see what others think. I couldn't find the part of the MOS that specifies this (not at MOS:THEMUSIC, at least) but thought I'd get other opinions on if this should be capitalized or not. Sock (~~tock~~ talk) 23:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

It's MOS:TITLECAPS, and it shouldn't be capitalized... first bullet point under "Not capitalized". Richard3120 (talk) 23:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Don’t capitalize per TITLECAPS. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 23:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Don't cap the article, and the areticle doesn't appear to meet notability guidelines yet. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

I was the one who capitalized the "The". Wouldn't it stay capital due to MOS:THECAPS, specifically due to "some idiomatic expressions, including the titles of artistic and academic works, should be quoted exactly according to common usage."? Or if the title goes uncapitalized, perhaps it should be capitalized within the body of the page? The officially released song has a capital "The" in all the sources I can find (see [1], [2], to list some). Honestly learning experience here; consider me ignorant. Driftybiscuit (talk) 02:15, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

No, it would not stay. if it ever ends up on AllMusic, they use the same MoS. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Savage (song) has an RFCEdit

Savage (song), which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Bgkc4444 (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

ChartingEdit

I know that some charts are components in others. I am not sure, however, which those are. I do know that if a chart that uses one or more components is included in a song or album then the individual components should not be used. So is the Billboard Country Airplay a component of Billboard Hot Country Songs today? Do we list this knowledge somewhere? The other part of the reason I ask is this edit. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

For that example, the answer is no. Billboard's genre airplay charts are determined by the amount of airplay songs receive on radio stations that primarily play songs from that genre. The airplay component of genre "hot" charts measures airplay across all radio formats broken down by songs of that specific genre. Under current rules, the highest ranked country song on the Hot 100 in a given week will be #1 on that week's Hot Country Songs chart. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 08:44, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Actually per WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS#Song charts, both Hot Country Songs and Country Airplay could be added per consensus. Bluesatellite (talk) 09:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Samples and cover arts at FFD (January 2021)Edit

The list of the following ongoing FFD discussions on cover arts of singles and samples of songs:

Yep. Plenty, isn't it? George Ho (talk) 04:43, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Navbox allows non-charting cover versions but page of song being covered doesn'tEdit

Lea Michele's cover of "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" was recently added and later removed from the song page's list of notable covers. It reminded me that her navbox is at the bottom of this song page, which seems like an inconsistency. She did release her version as a single in 2019, and I checked all of the Holiday 100 charts in Billboard since then just to confirm that, in fact, it hasn't actually charted. I couldn't find any restrictions about what songs are allowed in an artist's navbox, so it seems like it should be allowed to stay on the page. It seems like she's getting in through the back door, and yet I don't know of a legitimate reason to delete it since the song is listed in the navbox as one of her singles. Has anybody addressed this before? Danaphile (talk) 14:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Navigation templates should only include links to existing articles per WP:EXISTING. If the subject's version does not meet WP:COVERSONG it is presumptuous to even list it on the page let alone in the infobox. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)