Talk:Lea Valley lines

Seven Sisters

The line to Seven Sisters does not run along the river lea, and so it cannot count as being on the river lea.

For the good of us all, don't go near the East Coast or West Coast Main Line articles. --Dtcdthingy 14:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Map

The map looks rather scary!! Can we try and split it up into manageable sections?? As a starter for ten, how about splitting the Chingford Branch off? Its just a suggestion, nothing is set in concrete ... am I wrong for even opening my mouth. Listen up, I apologise for even daring to think that the map is anything less than perfection. I sincerely apologise for even placing a message on this page. Can I change it back??? Canterberry 22:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with changing things, I just don't think hacking off the branch is an improvement. I've saved your branch line map below. It could possibly incorporated into this article. --82.45.163.4 06:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the "mapneeded=yes" from the TWP tag. Canterberry 22:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Chingford Branch Line

Chingford Branch Line
mi-ch   10+33 Chingford Chingford carriage sidings 8+52 Highams Park 7+07 Wood Street 6+16 Walthamstow Central 5+55 St James Street Lea Valley Lines

This is a separate article, which is going to get expanded. Please do not re-direct to this page.Canterberry 16:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The line has its own history and character, and as such it warrants a separate article. The map of the Lea Valley is terrible (in my honest opinion). It is too stretched out, and working out which station is on which route is very difficult. The map should be split into three sections, of which this page can act as the main holding page: The Chingford Branch Line, the Lea Valley Line and the Southbury Loop Line.Sheepcot 18:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Gospel Oak Line

The map needs amending. Both the main line along the Lea Valley and the route via Seven Sisters has junctions with the line to Gospel Oak. Canterberry 17:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm ... it is difficult to show this ... I accept that this is almost impossible to show without spoiling the map. Canterberry 22:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Clapton/Coppermill

The map is incorrect in showing that the line from Stratford allows you to go directly to Chingford. Canterberry 17:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I have amended this "silly" error by an un-registered editor. Canterberry 22:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Queens Road station

The route map shows a closed Queens Road station between Hackney Downs and Clapton. I cannot find any maps which show another station between these two, nor is there a road by that name (there is a Queensdown Road). What is the source for this?--DavidCane 10:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Brown, Joe (2006). London Railway Atlas. ISBN 978-0-7110-3137-1. Canterberry 21:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Where exactly was it through? It might be an idea to make an article about the station, seeing as most closed London station now have their own pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Cornwallis (talk • contribs)

I have a copy of that book. It says "Platforms built 1872 but did not open" and is shown as in the open between two long tunnels, so it'd be in the area north of Queensdown Road. --Mr Thant (talk) 18:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Extent

Shouldn't the Lea Valley Lines map extend all the way to the end of the Hertford East branch? Simply south 07:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Junctions

Please stop trying to turn these route diagrams into track maps - you end up with a horrible mess that serves neither purpose. I'm going to remove a whole load of junk from this one. --82.45.163.4 13:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

As you will surely find out, it would be better to engage in debate about radical changes, lest you want you hard efforts reverted.Canterberry 13:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

BS7-2 Diagram

I've put in a BS7-2 diagram which moves some of the station names, etc., to the left. Anyone is welcome to improve it: I know that the placings of the mileages is less than ideal, for example. South Tottenham is also more diagrammatic than it could be but BS7-2 is at least now able to show it. Thoughts? Britmax (talk) 14:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Smaller Diagram

I made up this smaller diagram a while ago and post it here for comment. Please note that the Queen's Road station on the other diagram has vanished as I cannot verify its existence. Britmax (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Lea Valley Lines
mi+ch  mi+ch   West Anglia Main Line 14+01 Cheshunt Cheshunt Junction 14+28 13+71 Cheshunt Junction Theobalds Grove 13+45 12+63 Waltham Cross Enfield Town 10+55 M25 motorway Turkey Street 12+16 11+65 Enfield Lock Carterhatch Lane 10+61 Brimsdown Bush Hill Park 09+69 10+33 Chingford Bury Street Junction 09+20 10+32 Southbury 09+71 Ponders End Edmonton Green 08+45 Lower Edmonton Silver Street 07+75 8+52 Highams Park White Hart Lane 07+11 7+57 Angel Road Bruce Grove 06+28 7+07 Wood Street Seven Sisters 05+48 6+73 Northumberland Park Palace Gates Line 6+16 Walthamstow Central Seven Sisters Junction 05+40 6+00 Tottenham Hale South Tottenham Gospel Oak to Barking line Tottenham South Junction 05+41 5+55 St James Street Stamford Hill 05+03 4+74 Coppermill Junctions Clapton Junction Hall Farm Junction Clapton 03+78 Lea Bridge Junction Stoke Newington 04+16 Clapton Tunnel Rectory Road 03+64 Queens Road Tunnel Hackney Downs North Junction 03+04 Lea Bridge Hackney Downs 02+78 Loughton Branch Junction North London Line Great Eastern Main Line Reading Lane Junction 02+55 Stratford London Fields 02+35 Cambridge Heath 01+61 1+30 Bethnal Green North Junction Bethnal Green 01+10 GEML platforms closed Bishopsgate (Low Level) East London Line Bishopsgate Goods 0+00 Liverpool Street

Abbreviations

Abbreviations, such as ECR and N&ER are used without any explanation. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 14:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed changes 2014

The way Wikipedia has divided the history of the railway in this area up is confusing (to my mind) and the Lea Valley Lines page covers several lines all deserving of better coverage. I thus propose over 2014 to produce the following pages:

• West Anglia Main Line (Liverpool St - Hackney Downs - Cambridge, Stansted Airport Branch and Stratford - Coppermill Junction)
• Chingford branch (Liverpool St - Chingford)
• Enfield Town (Liverpool Street - Seven Sisters - Enfield Town)
• Southbury Loop
• Lower Edmonton low level (to be expanded to include history of the line as it was only station on this route).

Maintain the Lea Valley Lines page largely as is but with links to more detailed histories of the line

Any views drop me a message on my talk page.--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 12:25, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

I have written a more comprehensive entry for the Chingford branch and removed the redirect to this page.

Clarification

'They were part of the Great Eastern Railway, now part of the Anglia Route of Network Rail.' - there should be a link word: and in the next paragraph the transfer to London Overground is mentioned. Could 'which section belongs where and when' be sorted out. Jackiespeel (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

there are moves afoot to remove this page as lea Valley lines seems largely a marketing invention. The discussion is here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Lea Valley Lines under item 12.--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 17:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

From the discussion it seems that 'the Lea Valley Line or Lines' is probably notable enough to have an article or a section on another page.

I am not familiar enough with the history of railway companies and line designations to change the text as appropriate. Jackiespeel (talk) 21:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Watford DC line which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 15:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)