Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Assessment

B-Class assessment drive

The plan:

• Go through all articles in the following list and:
  • Leave a six-point assessment in the project banner, using {{B}} (a very convenient template) and possibly downgrade the article accordingly.
  • Mark it as done in the above mentioned list.
  • Leave an assessment comment in the article's talk page (optional).
• Once all articles are done, activate the B-Class checklist option in the {{WikiProject Croatia}} template.

The list

Title	Talk page	Comments
2007 Croatian coast fires	Talk	Coverage of the so-called "Kornat(i) tragedy" is the article's weakest spot. Still, B2 is met overall, as well as the rest of the B-Class criteria. GregorB (talk) 21:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
2010–11 GNK Dinamo Zagreb season	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing), which is really unfortunate, since the article is nicely developed and is particularly good in the B6 department. GregorB (talk) 22:28, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Aloysius Stepinac	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Ante Pavelić	Talk	A sizable and well-developed article, but has a number of flaws that make it not really close to meeting the GA criteria. The assessment summary page lists a few of them. GregorB (talk) 13:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Blanka Vlašić	Talk	Close to GA standard. GregorB (talk) 23:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Borovo Selo killings	Talk	Fails B1 per recent WP MILHIST assessment, passes the other five criteria. GregorB (talk) 11:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Branimir Glavaš	Talk	Fails B1 criterion. Tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Breakup of Yugoslavia	Talk	The article carries a lot of information, but is very poorly referenced. In addition it suffers from a confusing structure and flow and problematic presentation in some areas. Specifically, failing criteria B1, B2, B3 and B6 hence downgrading to C-class. (Talk:Breakup of Yugoslavia/Comments).--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Central Croatia	Talk	GA-Class unfortunately disguised as a B; no need for an assessment summary. GregorB (talk) 21:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Chest of Saint Simeon	Talk	Not bad at all - could be made GA without too much extra work. GregorB (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Coat of arms of Croatia	Talk	The article is substantially unreferenced and some significant aspects of the arms are neglected although the issue is not as significant as the referencing problem. Fails B1 and B2 criteria. (Talk:Coat of arms of Croatia/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Colonia (music group)	Talk	The only problem with the article is referencing, i.e.: 1) rather extensive use of primary sources, and 2) significant number of dead links. While the use of primary sources should generally be avoided, it is not a problem per se, and the same goes for dead links. Therefore, I don't think this is grounds for failing the article on WP:BCLASS B1. GregorB (talk) 14:49, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Croatia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2010	Talk	The result tables (three of them) are not referenced at all. These are central to the subject, so the article does not meet B1. Fine otherwise. GregorB (talk) 12:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian Air Force (Independent State of Croatia)	Talk	A fairly impressive article. Referencing is a (comparably) weak point, which resulted in a failed GAN. Still, good enough for B class. GregorB (talk) 12:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian Littoral	Talk	GA-class. --Tomobe03 (talk) 23:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Croatian art of the 20th century	Talk	Minor referencing issues exist - maintenance tags added where appropriate (inline). No further problems, hence B class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:16, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian kuna	Talk	The issue of non-free images in the article is somewhat controversial. I feel that the use of non-free images is reasonable, but second opinion is welcome. GregorB (talk) 13:34, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Croatian parliamentary election, 2007	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only. Even though sourcing is quite extensive, a substantial number claims in the prose is left unsupported. All marked inline now. (see: Talk:Croatian parliamentary election, 2007/Comments--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:14, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian pre-Romanesque art and architecture	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) criterion as large parts of prose are unreferenced.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Croatian presidential election, 2009–2010	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only. Even though sourcing is quite extensive, a substantial number claims in the prose is unsupported by references provided. Should be relatively simple matter to fix though.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:56, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Croats	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline and using appropriate templates.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline and using appropriate templates.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Croat–Bosniak War	Talk	The article fails B1 criterion. Reassessed as C-class, a number of cleanup tags may be found in the prose.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
D with stroke	Talk	Close to failing B1, which is the reason it was delisted from GA. Otherwise fine. GregorB (talk) 17:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Dalmatia	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Dalmatia/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Dalmatian (dog)	Talk	The article fails B1 criterion only.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Dražen Petrović	Talk	Conforms to all B-class criteria.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:40, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Dubrovnik	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Dubrovnik/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Edo Kovačević	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline and using appropriate templates.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Edo Murtić	Talk	A very solid B-Class article. GregorB (talk) 19:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Eduardo da Silva	Talk	Although there are some deficiencies in referencing and coverage, the article is well-developed and could easily become a GA candidate. GregorB (talk) 11:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Ferdinand Konščak	Talk	Fails B1 criterion. Although there are some references found at the end of the article, the prose itself contains zero inline refs. Reassessed as C-class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Four Crowned Martyrs	Talk	Is this in scope of WP Croatia? GregorB (talk) 12:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC) I wouldn't say so (probably belongs to WP saints only).--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC) Agreed, removing. GregorB (talk) 13:26, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Franjo Jelačić	Talk	No problems here. A very nice article that could easily go for GA. GregorB (talk) 12:26, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Franjo Marković	Talk	A well-developed article, could easily meet the GA criteria with a bit of extra work. GregorB (talk) 14:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Franjo Mihalić	Talk	Removed single unsupported (likely true, but still unsupported) claim. All other criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:27, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Free Territory of Trieste	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Free Territory of Trieste/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:33, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
GNK Dinamo Zagreb	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) criterion as large parts of prose are unreferenced.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Glagolitic alphabet	Talk	Fails B1 criterion. Reassessed as C-class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Gospić massacre	Talk	Fails B1 and B6 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Gospić massacre/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Graz agreement	Talk	Fails on B-Class criteria #2 and #6, details in the article assessment summary page. GregorB (talk) 14:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Hungarian occupation of Bačka and Baranja	Talk	GA-class.
Hvar (city)	Talk	Narrowly fails B1 due to a single unreferenced "Economy" section. That is a shame, because it is a nicely developed article that could easily go for GA. Still, referencing would generally need to be improved before that. GregorB (talk) 23:10, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Ignjat Job	Talk	No problems here.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Ignác Gyulay	Talk	Very good in all departments. Should really be a GA. GregorB (talk) 18:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Ilija Trifunović-Birčanin	Talk	Narrowly fails B1 due to a single unreferenced claim. Tagged inline - should not be hard to fix.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:39, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Independence of Croatia	Talk	Lacked few refs (added them myself, borrowing from other articles) - complies with all B-class criteria, and may have a decent shot at WP:GAN, possibly some info should be added to the lead (per WP:LEAD) and a WP:GOCE copyedit should be requested beforehand. --Tomobe03 (talk) 13:54, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Independent State of Croatia	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline and using appropriate templates.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Invasion of Yugoslavia	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria considerably. (Talk:Invasion of Yugoslavia/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Ivan Gundulić	Talk	Unfortunately, major completely unreferenced sections, including the one on Osman, his most important work, make the article fail the B1 criterion. Too bad, because it looks fine in other departments. GregorB (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Ivan Meštrović	Talk	OK in all departments. Intro is too short and references could use a cleanup, but for B class standards, there are no major deficiencies. GA class is another matter: at the very least, referencing would need to receive a serious improvement. On strength of the article's quality and importance (rated High), this would be a highly desirable GA candidate. GregorB (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Ivan Rakitić	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Iztok Puc	Talk	No problems here. All criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Josip Broz Tito	Talk	The article fails B1 criterion only. A significant number of major points is unreferenced. (see: Talk:Josip Broz Tito/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:34, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Jure Francetić	Talk	Complies with all B-class criteria.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:45, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Karađorđevo agreement	Talk	The article seems to suffer from overall lack of focus, presenting information in a confusing way, lacking contextual information - therefore failing B6 criterion. The B3 is barely met, but would not survive GAN, other aspects are passable. There are some referencing problems (examples tagged inline) but nothing warranting a B1 criterion failure. The article is tagged as POV pushing, but I suspect it is a consequence of lack of focus of the prose. (Talk:Karađorđevo agreement/Comments).--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Lapitch the Little Shoemaker	Talk	Other than the plot section being a bit too long, no problems. GregorB (talk) 12:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Lastovo	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) criterion. No summary is left, tagged paragraphs missing citations inline instead. Other B-class criteria are satisfactorily met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Liburnia	Talk	Language could be improved. Intro is way too short and a bit confusing. More images could be provided (though the maps, which are essential for the article, are there). Still, referencing and coverage look quite good, and WP:BCLASS criteria are met. GregorB (talk) 17:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Liburnians	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing), with several entirely unreferenced sections. Intro is too short. The History section is not an easy read, but I still think B6 is met. No major problems in other departments. GregorB (talk) 22:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Lisa Stublić	Talk	No problems here. All criteria met. The lead should be a bit longer, but that's not a B-class issue.--Tomobe03 (talk) 07:42, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Ljubo Babić	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) criterion as large parts of prose are unreferenced.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Luis Ibáñez	Talk	Minor referencing problem tagged, otherwise good enough for B.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Luka Modrić	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) criterion only. No summary (besides talk page edit summary) is left. All instances missing refs are tagged using appropriate templates or inline. --Tomobe03 (talk) 13:50, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Magnum Crimen	Talk	A substantial problem with balancing viewpoints (B2). (Second opinion is welcome.) Fine in other departments. GregorB (talk) 11:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Magyarization	Talk	Too many unsourced challenged statements, even some unsourced (but also quite unsubstantial) sections. Should not be that difficult to fix, but for the time being it fails the article in the B class checklist. The other five departments are OK. GregorB (talk) 15:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Mario Ančić	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only. Several significant issues are left unreferenced, and are marked inline. Reassessed as C-class. Once these are addressed the article lead need be reworked a bit and it might be a copyedit away from GA quality. (Talk:Mario Ančić/Comments)
Mark Viduka	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only, and the lack citation is relatively large. Tagged article using {{refimprove}} and downgraded to C class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Mato Celestin Medović	Talk	No problems here. All criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:14, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Menci Clement Crnčić	Talk	No problems here either. All criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Mirko Filipović	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only, but the article contains substantial quantity of unreferenced prose and stats. Tagged article using {{refimprove}} and downgraded to C class. No comments left except an edit summary in the talk page.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Miroslav Filipović	Talk	Removed two unsourced and challenged statements to comply with B1, other criteria reasonably met. Needs further work though to go for a GAN.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Molise Croatian dialect	Talk	The article has no footnotes to speak of severely hampering verifiability and misses significant parts of relevant information (per tags in the article). Fails B1 and B2 criteria.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Morean War	Talk	Minor referencing issues exist - maintenance tags added where appropriate (inline). No further problems, hence B class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Music of Croatia	Talk	The coverage is actually quite good, and the other departments are not too bad either - except for referencing, which fails the article in the B-Class checklist. GregorB (talk) 12:11, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Neretva	Talk	Minor referencing issues exist - maintenance tags added where appropriate (inline). No further problems, hence B class. An article on endangered species in the Neretva River might be spun off the article as it stands now - a bit more comprehensive coverage, presentation of differing views of some issues, lead development and copyediting will be necessary if the article is ever going towards GAN, though - but those are sufficiently good to meed B-class criteria.--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:04, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Nikica Jelavić	Talk	Fails B1 criterion only, but the article contains substantial quantity of unreferenced prose and stats. Tagged article using {{refimprove}} and downgraded to C class. No comments left except an edit summary in the talk page.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Niko Kranjčar	Talk	The article lacks references to back up prose and stats (failing B1) and its scope need be expanded to mention the basic personal info, at least sufficient to back up the data presented in the infobox (failing B2). See: Talk:Niko Kranjčar/Comments.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Northern Croatian Littoral	Talk	Everything's there. For GA-Class standards, the intro would need to be expanded to, say, three paragraphs. Nothing major other than that, as far as I can see. GregorB (talk) 10:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Operation Alfa	Talk	GA-class. --Tomobe03 (talk) 17:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Operation Medak Pocket	Talk	Fails B1, B2 and B6 criteria - and spectacularly so. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Operation Medak Pocket/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Operational Zone of the Adriatic Littoral	Talk	In fact the article was substantially unreferenced and in parts inaccurate, but I took time to add references and fix minor inaccuracies. I trust all B-class criteria are now met, even though a minor point still requires a reference (tagged inline).--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Osijek	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Osijek/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Ottoman–Venetian War (1714–1718)	Talk	Asked WP:MHAR advice on this, results available on article talk page - B1 criterion failed. Further pointers made available as well (unrelated to B-class).--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Pandurs	Talk	GregorB (talk) 10:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Plitvice Lakes National Park	Talk	Lots of good content, okay for a B class, but still quite far from GA standards. (More details provided in the assessment summary page.) Personally, I'd love to see this article improved. Needs targeted work. GregorB (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Politics of Croatia	Talk	GA-class now.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Požega Valley	Talk	I agree with the previous reviewer that sections on economy and demographics would be nice to have. The omission of these sections does not, however, affect the WP:BCLASS criterion #2 adversely. A GA candidate with not too much extra work. GregorB (talk) 19:41, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Ruđer Bošković	Talk	There is room for improvement regarding referencing, coverage and structure (suggestions left in the assessment summary page), but I don't think there's anything that would warrant a downgrade to C-Class. GregorB (talk) 09:45, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Sandra Perković	Talk	No problems here. All criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Sava	Talk	Developed to a high standard in all departments, looks GAR-ready. GregorB (talk) 18:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Serbian Orthodox Secondary School	Talk	Fails B1 (referencing) and B4 (grammar) criteria. The B4 failure per copyediting required tag, referencing problems tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:21, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Serbo-Croatian phonology	Talk	There is a completely unreferenced major section ("Sibilantization"), so the article fails the B1 criterion. That is really unfortunate, because the article is generally developed to a high standard. The "Iotation" section should have a summary paragraph at least, although this is not a B-Class requirement. The intro should also be expanded. GregorB (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Siege of Dubrovnik	Talk	Fails B1 and B6 criteria. The referencing (B1) problem is not very severe overall, but an entire subsection is left without any references. The B6 issue is also relatively simple to fix, but requires a comprehensive rework of the background section (see Talk:Siege of Dubrovnik/Comments). Reassessed as C-class.--Tomobe03 (talk) 19:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Slava Raškaj	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Slavic peoples	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria. Reassessed as C-class. (Talk:Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Tomislav Butina	Talk	Fails B1 and B2 criteria - only just. The B1 (referencing) problem is not severe, as only a single reference is missing, but in terms of the B2 criterion, a section covering an additional aspect of the topic is needed. (see: Talk:Tomislav Butina/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Upper nobility (Kingdom of Hungary)	Talk	A problem with the intro: it is too long, and has content that is completely unreferenced and does not appear in the article body. I feel this is severe enough to fail the article on B1 and B3 (referencing and structure). The rest is actually quite good, and this problem should not be too difficult to fix. GregorB (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Vilko Gecan	Talk	Upgraded from C class for this occasion. Very nicely done overall, could be expanded a bit and made into a GA without too much effort. GregorB (talk) 23:53, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Vinko Pintarić	Talk	All B-class criteria met.--Tomobe03 (talk) 01:23, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Yugoslav Front	Talk	Missing a fair number of references (matching WP:MILHIST rating). Tagged using {{refimprove}}.--Tomobe03 (talk) 19:57, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Zadar	Talk	fails B1, B2 and B5 criteria. The B5 issue is minor, but referencing and comprehensiveness of the coverage are substantially below-par. (Talk:Zadar/Comments)--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Zagreb	Talk	well short of B-class (Talk:Zagreb/Comments) --Tomobe03 (talk) 01:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC))
Zagreb School of Economics and Management	Talk	Fails B1 criterion.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Zrinski Bridge	Talk	Upgraded from C class for this occasion. Near-GA quality. GregorB (talk) 23:18, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Šalata	Talk	Fails B1 criterion (referencing) - tagged inline.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Here is how to create it: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?categories=B-Class+Croatia+articles&ns%5B0%5D=1&ns%5B1%5D=1&sortby=title&format=wiki. Of course, I've rearranged it for our purpose. GregorB (talk) 21:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Apart from recusing myself from assessing the articles I have significantly contributed to, I'll also skip those for which I've already provided a some kind of assessment and/or significant feedback. This is simply because I feel it would be beneficial to get a second opinion. These are:

• Mario Ančić (WP Bio peer review in March 2009)
• Croatian art of the 20th century (talk page comments in March 2011)

There are probably more, but I don't remember them all at the moment... :-) I'll just skip them, there is still quite a few to choose from. GregorB (talk) 20:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Template {{B}} should now insert the explanatory comments as well. GregorB (talk) 09:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Final remarks

Here is the final outcome of the assessment drive. Out of 107 articles that have been chosen:

• 41 articles have been confirmed as B-Class, meeting all six WP:BCLASS criteria
• 60 articles have been downgraded to C-Class for failing to meet one or more WP:BCLASS criteria
• 5 articles have been promoted to GA status
• 1 article has been found to be out of scope of WikiProject Croatia

At the moment, there are 7 more B-Class articles (assessed independently from this drive), giving a total of 48. GregorB (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)