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Latest comment: 16 years ago by Dahliarose in topic December 2007


January 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion
  • Reading School: (B / Low) Good start, layout, & prose. Issues with WP:MOS, needs more references, and is somewhat list heavy. Zedla 00:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Could we possibly have a second opinion on the importance assessment of this school now that a number of other schools have been assessed? I think we need to establish consistency in the importance ratings from the outset. Other schools (eg, Pinkerton Academy and Uppingham School) have been given a mid-importance rating based on their alumni and history. Reading has a very long list of alumni and a much longer history than either of these schools and surely should at least have the same mid-importance rating.
      • Based on my assessment at your request and the things you point out, Reading will get a mid-importance rating. The ratings are by no means final, meaning those who are actively looking at the article can change it at their discretion when the article reaches the necessary level of notability. Be bold in updating pages! PhoenixTwo 19:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Forest School, Walthamstow: (Start / Low) outline of a quality article. Significant work needed with pictures, references, WP:MOS, and debatable material. Zedla 00:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Pinkerton Academy: (B / Mid). Good, captivating start. History needs citations. Photos can perhaps be juggled around to increase stylistic appeal. Academics is a bit messy due to the list. Extra-curricular is very stub-like. Mid importance given on grounds of alumni and faculty importance. GetDownAdam 10:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Colégio de Aplicação da UFRJ: (Stub / low). More info on talk page. I am worried about the notorius alumni though. GetDownAdam 10:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

February 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago20 comments1 person in discussion

March 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago307 comments7 people in discussion
I fail to see both the B-rating and mid-importance of this article, as it has no references. I don't think they will be too difficult to find in this case. PhoenixTwo 22:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Well you're the expert here, I'll change it. Any more rigorous guidelines you'd like to pass along? Adam McCormick 23:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Upgraded to start-class, because it has sufficent information to be as such. If those lists were converted to some sort of usable prose, it could maintain that status. The gap between start and stub is minimal, but that between start and B-class is much larger. PhoenixTwo 00:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I only wonder because it was labelled as a stub by the India project, Start is fine, but it'll need another review in the next couple weeks Adam McCormick 01:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree that this article is a B. It's well cited and concise Adam McCormick 19:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Pacific Collegiate School (Stub/mid) Its a stub as its very short of references and consensus. Rated as low initially.... but if there was a reference to the importance statement above that was made ny "Newsweek[1]. " then it might be mid or even high ...... late news ... did I break the prime directive? I added the reference to the article. Its now mid Victuallers 19:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there's anything wrong with making the addition, this project is about improving schools after all. Anyway, it's not as if you made it top importance or anything. I think the reference makes it at least mid importance, and the stub status is earned, it would be start with some reorganization Adam McCormick 03:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I would point out that importance in the US has more to do with test scores and course offerings than with age. That said, I agree with the "Top" rating given its alumni and history. I do worry about the B rating however as there are only a few references and no pictures at all. There is also some question on the WP:NPOV of the article. Adam McCormick 20:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed it - I see your point. However "Top" rating should have a universal meaning as related to notability ... Victuallers 20:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this article should be rated as of low importance. The number of pupils at a school has no relevance to its importance (at least as far as UK schools are concerned). This is a typical comprehensive school, like large numbers of other UK schools, with no particularly noteworthy features. Dahliarose 10:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Adam McCormick 15:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Alton College (Start / Low) This article contains a large amount of information with some structure. However, it clearly needs to be expanded with some references needed. It also needs a cleanup to fit in more with the Wikipedia house style, especially with section headings.Camaron1 | Chris 18:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Godalming College (Stub / Low) This article contains some information of value, including result statistics and staff information. To improve this article needs to cite its resources and include more information about other topics such as school policies. Camaron1 | Chris 18:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh now everyones joining in ... impressive alumni ... low? Victuallers 19:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC). No you're righ there is only really Ben Elton. Victuallers 19:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the assessment. However, please note that the assessment template should be placed on the articles talk page and not in the article itself, I have fixed this for you. Also, I feel that the "stub" rating given might require reviewing, after looking at the article I think it reaches the "start" category. Camaron1 | Chris 15:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Changing to (Start / Low) Some interesting information but questionable WP:POV. Could also use significant expansion, pictures, and referencing. Adam McCormick 19:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Caerleon Comprehensive School (Start/Low) As requested I have reassessed following request. I can see the improvements and I have moved this up to "Start". Points to mention are references ... must improve this. Statements like "best in the region" ... says who? ... as he says he needs a source. Also confused by the choice of box at the bottom as this shows education by country. I'd expect Education for that county. no Pics yet. Some of the stuff is todays news .... there is a lot about one new building. Victuallers 22:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Walnut Creek Middle School (Millcreek, PA) (Start / Low ) This is just a start. Content is a bit short but refs are there, info box and they have resisted the urge to namecheck the staff members or list that there is a chess club (e.g.). And the other "Walnut Creek Middle School" should make its name less ambiguous Victuallers 22:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
  • The Gunnery (Start / Low) Has no references and is mostly original research. Only really list lodging and historical information. Needs significant expansion with referenced material. Adam McCormick 22:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Example of where it is important to get the category callout correct. This school was appearing under "T" so I changed it so it came out under "G" Victuallers 22:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

April 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago254 comments11 people in discussion

May 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago57 comments10 people in discussion
I agree.. its either a GA or very close Victuallers 18:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I would consider this a strong B+. A little reviewing and NPOV resolving and I would consider it GA. Camaron1 | Chris 19:09, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The school has improved since I saw it last, but has still not made B grade. It is essential that B grade articles have in line referencing. Look at other B classified schools to see how it is done. Victuallers 23:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
In addition the inclusion of the lyrics to the school song is a potential copyright violation. Dahliarose 10:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
The song is over 100 years old, which I believe takes it out of copyright? McKDandy 11:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
100 years ... good, jusr record it (with a ref?). In Europe its 70 years, so OK Victuallers 12:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Copyright is determined not by the date on which the song was written but on the date of death of the artist. Copyright normally expires (in Europe anyway) 70 years after the death of the person who wrote the lyrics. Unless all the lyricists died before 1937 the lyrics are still in copyright and should not be published on Wikipedia. SeeWikipedia:Copyrights Dahliarose 23:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
It may also be that the lyricist is not the owner of the work any longer or that it was released into the public domain, The point is that you need to prove this using reliable sources (because otherwise even the age is WP:OR) or remove the lyrics completely (Just as we would for a picture that isn't free/Fair use) Adam McCormick 04:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The Old Skinners Society contains the song in full on their website, there is also no mention of copyright. Does this help? --McKDandy 10:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
The Old Skinners' Society might well be using the song on their website without having any idea as to its copyright status. Wikipedia articles can be freely reproduced and distributed so it's important to ensure that there are no copyright infringements, especially if you want to get the article to Good Article or Featured Article status. Dahliarose 23:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by McKDandy (talk • contribs)

Well done ... worried we are citicising too much. This is a good call. May be mid when they document all their alumni. Pretty page, but empty. Victuallers 12:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I think this school should remain as mid-importance. It's not one of the better known English public schools and 400 years is not particularly old for an English school. Dahliarose 21:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Certainly it isn't the top end of high, but when you browse through the "high" importance schools you see loads that aren't as well know as Uppingham and it's certainly much more important than the majority of mid schools. It's got numerous famous alumni with wikipedia articles (Jonathan Agnew, Stephen Fry, Rick Stein, etc.) and is supposed to have largest playing fields in the country. It's pretty well know for churning out musicians, and it's very famous where I live (admittedly in the adjacent county). If the importance scale is comparative, then within schools I think it should be "high". Well, that was my reasoning anyway. If I've made a mistake, then by all means change it back. (chgallen 22:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC))
The importance ratings will eventually change over time. Some schools won't necessarily have explained their importance in the articles. There might well be schools ranked as high which should be downgraded. If you find any please let us know and we can change them. Uppingham School seems to be one of the original 25 schools in the Boarding Schools Handbook as shown on the Independent school (UK) page so perhaps the high importance rating is justified. The alumni you quote are fairly minor on an international scale. Dahliarose 16:23, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I see your points about the alumni not being internationally renowned, but they're pretty big in the UK and there are many others that the three I picked. I think that its fairly likely that a reader would come across the artice for the school compared to other schools, so I just thought it might justify a higher rating... but if you really disagree then I won't have any objections to your demoting it again. I certainly didn't mean to say that many high importance articles needed downgrading - just that I thought Uppingham was the equal of them. (chgallen 16:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC))
I probably didn't explain myself properly but having look at the article again I've changed my mind and now agree that Uppingham School should be high importance. Don't be afraid to recommend articles for downgrading. There are probably quite a few anomalies in the assessments at present which haven't yet been picked up. Dahliarose 17:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

June 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago15 comments4 people in discussion
This article is now been considered for GA class or better with a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Presbyterian Ladies' College, Sydney. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Camaron1 | Chris 11:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this article should be higher than a B at present. There are far too many lists and there is far too much trivial information. The facilities section should be trimmed and put into a proper prose format (we really don't need to know the name of every single building in the school). The school uniform seems quite distinctive so probably should have a brief mention but not in such minute detail as it's of no interest to anyone outside the school. The article also seems to be missing any sort of curriculum section so the reader has no idea of what actually goes on in the school. Dahliarose 13:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I have added your feedback to the peer review so other users can see it easily. Camaron1 | Chris 14:21, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

July 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago21 comments3 people in discussion

August 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago28 comments4 people in discussion
Debating point here is a start? Oh and I think the best school you can find in a country must top (as I would expect Wikipedia to have at least one Norwegian School article.
The Norwegian version of the article has substantially more content than the English-language and most of the alumni are blue links. The English-language version only has a short introduction and a long list of mostly red-linked alumni. I don't think it can be anything more than a stub. There are in fact three Norwegian schools of a very similar age. This one, Bergen katedralskole and Oslo katedralskole (assessed above) are all of a similar age. This school doesn't tell us very much about itself other than that it is very old so it's difficult to assess its importance. Of the three schools Oslo katedralskole is seemingly the most important as it has several internationally known alumni. I shall change the Oslo school to top so that there is one top importance Norwegian school unless anyone objects.

Dahliarose 17:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Brilliant - my point wasn't to differ from your approach. Merely a question about what we do when we have a stub but there is a Start in another language. I suspect that it has no solution and we are doing all that can be expected. Victuallers 19:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

September 2007

Latest comment: 17 years ago161 comments6 people in discussion
  • La Martiniere Lucknow (B / Top) - I am going to endorse the assessment of B / Top. This article meets a B rating with it good referencing, its coverage of a variety of topics, good illustrations and reasonable well organised layout. With a bit more work, I would now consider this article a future GA candidate. I am giving it Top importance for several reasons. The school has a large amount of notable alumni and the boys school was the only in the world to be given a battle honour. The schools history is also very extensive such as the schools involvement in the Indian rebellion of 1867. Finally, it is beneficial to have more non-US and UK school articles be given top importance to give more balance to the assessment system. Camaron1 | Chris 09:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • La Martiniere Lyon (Start / Mid) I am giving it an assessment of Start / Mid. I am upgrading the rating to Start as the article is now well established with two reasonably detailed sections. Needs an info-box, further references and more details for B class. I am giving it Mid importance for its history and been a school of the Lumiere brothers. I think this school might really deserve High importance but the current state of the article only establishes enough importance for Mid - more details on history and alumni would be good. Camaron1 | Chris 09:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • La Martiniere College (Start / Top) I am re-assessing this article for WikiProject Schools as Start / Top. I am giving it a Start as I do not think it quite meets B standards - the main issue is that it needs much more references and perhaps further expansion in sections like School Motto. I am upgrading it to Top importance as of the La Martiniere articles this is the most important - it is the foundation article of several important schools in the world (of which one has been assessed as Top) making it of special importance to the project. Compared to the subsidiary article La Martiniere Lucknow, this article probably does not yet do justice for this topic. Camaron1 | Chris 09:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • La Martiniere Calcutta (Start / High) I am going to give this article an assessment of Start / High. A well established article but it needs further references, perhaps a bit of cleanup with wikicode and layout, and little further expansion to reach B class. I am giving it High importance due to been within the top ten "most respected secondary schools" in India in 2007 as well as for its extensive alumni list - though better referencing on alumni is needed. Camaron1 | Chris 09:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dollar Academy (Start/mid). Founded in 1818 and claims to be the oldest co-educational school in Britain. Also claims to be 4th or higher in the Scottish league tables. A long list of alumni, most without Wiki articles and all unreferenced. With references it would be close to a B. Importance potentially higher if claims can be backed up by references. The article also has copyright concerns with the unreferenced reproduction of the school hymn. Dahliarose 23:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Donaldson's College (Stub/high) A good stub. High importance as it is Scotland's National School for the Deaf. Dahliarose 23:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Gordonstoun (Proposed Start/top) I think this should be top importance because of the royal alumni (six members of the current British royal family), its international reputation and its unique ethos. It already has articles in four foreign-language Wikis. It is almost a B but a little more content and a few more references are required. Assessment pending approval and not yet put on talk page. Dahliarose 23:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • St Leonard's School (Proposed Start/mid). A good list of alumni with Wiki articles and the Sunday Times independent school of the year in 2005. An impressive list of alumni. Doesn't seem to be enough content yet to merit a B and the alumni are not well known enough to merit a high. Assessment pending approval and not yet put on talk page. Dahliarose 23:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • DeRuyter Central School Stub class, little here to get anything above start. To get there, you need an infobox, a breif history, a school logo, and info on some of the special programs the school runs. Low importance, little here to assert any notability.Twenty Years 15:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dean Close School Start class, good alumni and history sections. Needs external sources, to get to B Class, and info on any of the special programs the school runs. Low importance, little here asserting any sort of notability.Twenty Years 15:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I have re-assessed this school as (Start/mid). There is a middling size list of alumni including some notable names such as Francis Bacon (the painter) and Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones. The Jilly Cooper novel Wicked was also supposedly based on the school. The alumni and claims need to be referenced to keep the mid importance rating. Dahliarose 11:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
      • I though we were assessing the school, not who went there. If not, then Aquinas College, Perth might aswell be High importance. Twenty Years 16:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
        • Alumni are usually a good indicator of a school's status as you will have seen from the earlier assessments. Aquinas College, Perth was rated before this assessment project had been established. It was rated as A/low on 2nd January 2006 by the now defunct User:Smbarnzy which I believe was you in your previous incarnation. The next day User:Gnangarra changed the rating to B/low. The article has not since been reviewed by anyone related with school assessments. Perhaps if you can comply with our requirements someone will reassess it for you as a higher importance rating is probably justified. Dahliarose 16:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Deanery High School Stub class, little info here, needs an infobox, pic, broken into sections - history, sport etc. Low importance, could be a candidate for deletion.Twenty Years 15:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dearborn High School Start class - has some alright sections, a little bit crufty, the sections direct the readers attention. A history section would be useful. The facts section should be merged into the article somewhere, it is a tad strange. Low importance, very little assertation of notability. Infobox needed too. Twenty Years 15:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Deep Run High School Start class, good picture, little bit of information, the song is a tad crufty. History information and RS are required here. Low importance, google search turned back little. Twenty Years 15:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Blaubeuren Abbey (Start / High) - Nearly a thousand years old but not much of an article, no references Adam McCormick 02:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • This article is about the abbey not the school! They only tell us that the school opened in the 1800s. Unless they can tells us more about the school I think it should be stub/low for the purposes of this project.
      • As far I know, abbeys were learning institutions as well as religious communities. Regardless it has a strong history even if a bit spotty on detail. Because it's unreferenced it may only be Mid importance. What does everyone else think? Adam McCormick 19:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
        • What I'm not clear about with this one is whether the school is in the abbey or on separate premises. It says the abbey is now a 'Protestant seminary with an attached boarding school'. The building itself is undoubtedly important and there was a choir school there but I would have thought that very little, if any, material exists to expand on the early history of the school. Why not make it a mid and see if they can tell us more. Dahliarose 08:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Epsom College (B / Mid) - Low end of B. Very well referenced, some very interesting alumni, including a director of MI:6. Could benefit from some reorganization and condensing, but it is otherwise well-written. Adam McCormick 02:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Canterbury Boys' High School - Stub class, although is has a good list of alumni, the information is all stub. Needs a bit of history, infobox, sporting, academic and cultural information to get to Start class. Mid importance based on the alumni. Twenty Years 08:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Benton Park School - Stub class, nice sectioning, no real information here. Nice to see an infobox. Needs to add some history and the schools special stuff eg. sports and arts and some alumni for start class. Low importance for basically not asserting any. Twenty Years 08:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Bishop Barrington School - Stub, and a very solid stub at that. Needs to add history and special information to it to become start class. Low importance, little spoken here about any real notability. Twenty Years 08:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brawley Union High School - Stub, basically is all cruft, needs to be fixed up. History section would be a first priority. Low importance for basically no notability. Article may be deleted if it doesnt clean up its act. Ive done a small cleanup, help needed. Twenty Years 08:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brook Farm school - Stub, 4 lines. little more to say. Needs some history, reasons for closure, who it catered for. Low importance, seemed to do little anywhere. Could be a deletion candidate in its current state. Twenty Years 08:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brookmead School - Procedural stub low, no info, no assertation of notability. Cruft upon cruft. Needs a history for start class, and an infobox. Twenty Years 08:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • This article has basically no content whatsoever. The 'cruft upon cruft' which you removed consisted of three external links. They're hardly cruft and they might help someone to expand the article so I've reinstated them. Dahliarose 17:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brookwood School - Stub class, no real information, needs a bit of info on the special programs that the school offers. Removed some cruft from the article. Low importance, little assertation. Needs some notable alumni, if any. Twenty Years 08:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brophy College Preparatory - This article is start class, in order to get it to B Class, it needs to cite sources from outside of the schools website for all info, the alumni is good, but the other sections need to be expanded. Apart from Athletics, does the school have any other specialty programs? Mid importance given the schools status and alumni Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brown Deer High School - Stub class, little information, procedural information. The article needs to be broken up into sections; eg. history, sport, academic, arts, notable alumni etc. Low importance given the lack of notability expressed in the article. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Brownlow Integrated College - Stub class. Low importance. Procedural nomination. Needs an infobox, history section, external links and alumni. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Bruntcliffe High School - Procedural nomination, stub and low. Needs an infobox, and information from reliable sources, see Aquinas College, Perth for a look at a benchmark. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Bryanston School - Start class, has alot of good information, needs some RS to back it up. The list of alumni is v/good. Needs historical information to get to B. Mid importance given the alumni. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • There are only a few sentences of actual information here and then a list of alumni, I would have called it a stub. Trivia belongs in an infobox or a trashbin. Adam McCormick 19:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
      • I agree. There are lots of lists but nothing which constitutes the 'meaningful amount of good content' required for a start class. I've changed it to stub.
  • Buckingham Friends School - Stub class, alot of cruft here. Almost start class though. The general information is pretty crufty as with the philosophy. Mid importance given the uniqueness and history of the school. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Easily a start even with cruft Adam McCormick 19:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Just about a start. Not too sure about the mid importance. Other than the age of the school (founded in 1754 – old for the US) there doesn't seem to be much to distinguish it. It is a Quaker school. Is that of any special significance or rarity in the US. The so-called 'cruft' is mostly basic information about the school which should go in the infobox. The rest needs to be put into proper sentences and formatted properly. Twenty's use of the word 'cruft' is too vague and all-embracing. He needs to be more specific. Dahliarose 20:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
        • There aren't many vestiges of the Quakers left in the US and this is very old for a still-functioning US school. I have no trouble with MidAdam McCormick
  • Buckhaven High School - Stub class, little information here, but has good sections, all need expanding to get to start class, close to it. Low importance, doesnt asset any major importance to education in its province. Twenty Years 12:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Scotch College, Perth. (Mid) Requested importance assessment. Already a GA. This article does not appear to have had a formal assessment by the school assessment team. It was assessed as A/low on 2nd January 2007 by User:Smbarnzy, one of the then contributors. Since then it has been promoted to GA. The article is well written with a good history section. The section on school uniform is somewhat unencyclopedic and of little interest to anyone outside the school. Some information on examination results might be useful. If the article is to maintain its GA status the referencing of the alumni needs to be sorted out as a priority. The statements that these people attended the school are not backed up by references in their Wiki articles. It would be best to add the references to the Wiki articles where appropriate and include references within the article for those people with red links. The link for reference 21 is broken. The article is somewhat light in general on references for a good article. The alumni (if proven) warrant a mid importance rating. Dahliarose 10:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Lanark Grammar School (Stub/mid) A school founded in 1183 should surely have a long history and many distinguished alumni other than Colin McRae but you don't tell us very much. Mid importance because of age. Come back for a re-assessment when you have more content. Dahliarose 11:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dalby Christian School - Stub class is because the article contains very little information, and what is there is basically copied from the schools website. Low importance, there is very little ascertation of notability. Twenty Years 15:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Dalkeith High School - Stub for basically no information. Importance is low, it appears to be very un-notable. Twenty Years 15:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Dallam School - I gave it stub for the pure lack of information. I gave it mid, its history seems to date back a long way, which appears to make it alot more important. Twenty Years 15:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Damai Secondary School - The article is start class currently. It would be B-Class if it contained some references, which is the only thing holding the article back. The school song should also be deleted, it is cruft. Low importance.Twenty Years 16:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Damascus College - I have cleanup some of the cruft on the article. Stub for the content which is "good" and low because of the lack of any serious notability. Twenty Years 16:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Changed to start class, per discussion.Twenty Years 12:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dana Hall School - Stub, alot of the information is somewhat crufty, and unencyclopedic. Low importance because it asserts little notability. Twenty Years 12:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Danestone Primary School - There is no information here at all. It needs sections to direct the readers attention, it is all over the place. Primary schools are generally NN, so low importance. Twenty Years 14:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Daniel Hand High School - Basically, it is full of schoolcruft. Removed some vandalism that slipped in here, and the mainpage. Low importance, little ascertation of notability, and stub class for the total lack of encyclopedic knowledge. Twenty Years 14:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Daphne High School - Good stub. has alot of basic knowledge about the article. This could be easily expanded, and its rating improved. Keep it up. Twenty Years 14:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Daramalan College - Stub for lack of overall information. Low for lack of importance. Twenty Years 14:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Darfield Upperwood Primary School - Start class for the small sections, with some decent sources. Low importance, primary schools are generally not notable, this one is pretty notable for a primary school. Twenty Years 14:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Darlington College - No real information here, no infobox. Pretty boring in reading. Low importance, no ascertation of notability. Twenty Years 14:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dartmouth High School - Article has a few good little sections, so i gave it start, also the image helped. Low importance, doesnt ascert much notability. Twenty Years 17:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Darton High School - Stub class, almost a start class, just needs a bit more information. But a solid stub. Some interesting bits of information there, but still worth a Low. Twenty Years 17:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dauntsey's School - Start class for the sheer amount of information in the article. Mid importance, the school has been around since the 1500's, big history associated to it, many notable organisations associated. Twenty Years 17:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Davenant Foundation School - Very good history section, loads of information, so i gave it start. Low importance, not much ascertained in the article. Twenty Years 17:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dawood Public School - Stub, no real information here, low importance - not much else to say. Twenty Years 02:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • De Aston School - I can see why there are notability concerns. Could be an AfD candidate. Stub for lack of overall information. Low importance, has little notability per tag and comments. Twenty Years 02:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • De Shalit High School - Stub, good information for a stub, probably near a start class article. Low importance for the schools project, nothing really going on here. Twenty Years 02:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • DeBakey High School for Health Professions - Houston WP assessed this as a B-Class article. I think its start class. There is no references, which i would consider essential for a B class article. The article isnt even nearly complete, which it should be. So start it is. Low importance, little notability. Twenty Years 02:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • D.T.E.A. senior secondary schools - Start class, this can be expended sinificantly, cite a few external sources. High importance given the wide nature of the topic at hand. Twenty Years 14:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dallas Theological Seminary I gave it start given the content of the article, and the decent list of Alumni/staff. Low importance, there is little ascertation of notability. Twenty Years 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delhi Public School Society Serious amount of work has gone into this article, it is pretty much a B-Class article, although it has no references, so it is going to be start-class. High importance has been given aswell. Twenty Years 15:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Bolton School (Start/mid) Requested re-assessment. I think the original assessment (start/mid) is consistent with our ratings. The high importance English schools are generally those which are already listed in Microsoft Encarta or other encyclopedias and those which have long lists of important alumni. The top 20 ranking is in fact an unreferenced claim for just one year (2004). The other unreferenced rankings in the article place it outside the top 100 in the league tables. However, the school was founded in 1516, and has a surprisingly short list of alumni for its age (only one before the twentieth century) so is potentially more important than is apparent from the present article. If the article and list of alumni could be expanded, then I suggest that the editors come back for a re-assessment. Does that seem fair? If so I will add these comments to their talk page. Dahliarose 15:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Wesley College, Perth (Start/mid) This article seems to have been unofficially rated by its editors back in February as a B/low for the purposes of both WikiProject Perth WikiProject Schools. I have now re-assessed it for WPSchools and am changing the rating to Start/Mid. The article has some good pictures but unfortunately there are a number of problems with the text. Most importantly the history section is in breach of copyright as it has nearly all been copied and pasted from the school's own website. There seems to be an unusual and excessive focus on the buildings of the school. The section on the building program is already out of date. The section on school facilities goes into excessive detail, and would benefit from being trimmed and written in a prose style. The section on uniform is not of any interest to anyone outside the school. The school war cry has no reference so it is not possible to establish if it is genuine, and it is also potentially in breach of copyright. Focus less on the trivia and instead write about subjects which are of interest to a wider readership. Most importantly you need references, especially for the history section and for the alumni. Ask at WP Schools if you need help. I am giving the article a mid importance rating based on the sporting alumni assuming that they can be proven with appropriate references. Dahliarose 23:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Fettes College (Start/high). An important Scottish school with a consistent top five ranking in the league tables. The alumni include Tony Blair and three senior members of the British Cabinet (Chancellors of the Exchequer and Foreign Secretaries.) A good start at referencing. Very close to a B but rather too many lists rather than prose sections. Dahliarose 09:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • George Watson's College (Start/High) A good start article. More content and references needed for a B. High importance because of the impressive alumni list which includes several leading politicians.
  • Robert Gordon's College (Start/high) An important school housed in a building designed by William Adam which was commandeered by troops during the Jacobite rising. More content and proper referencing needed to advance to a B. I would have expected more alumni for a school of this stature. Dahliarose 09:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Trinity College, Perth (Start/mid) A good start article with some lovely pictures. More content needed and lots of references to advance to a B. Changed to mid importance because of the sporting alumni. The alumni articles really need proper referencing to prove that they went to the school. Dahliarose 21:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Hale School. (B/High) (Requested re-assessment) This is a very good article with a well referenced history section and some good pictures. It seems to have "a majority of the material needed for a completed article" to qualify for a B rating. It could do with more information about the school's curriculum and is missing a section on extracurricular activities. With a long list of important Establishment alumni this is high importance. You need to reduce the lists and focus in particular on referencing all the alumni and the headmasters if you want to progress to good article status. Dahliarose 18:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Christ Church Grammar School (Start/mid) (requested assessment) A good start article. The sporting alumni merit a mid importance rating. You already know that you need to provide references. Some pics would also help. Dahliarose 20:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Sir John Deane's College (Start/High)This is a nice looking article whivh unlike many has a good set of references. It should therefore be a "B" article, but it lacks a large enough history section for a school that is 400+ years old. The alumni and the age... high importance. Victuallers 04:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Fort Street High School (Start/Mid) Requested. Some good information but minimally referenced. Alumni list is excessive but not without notability. Adam McCormick 21:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Harris Federation (List/Low) Requested. This article is little more than a list of schools in this federation and a controversy section. Adam McCormick 21:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Aquinas College, Perth (GA/High) Requested. Upgraded to High importance given alumni and general notability of the school. Adam McCormick 21:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Guildford Grammar School (B/Low) Requested. No change to rating. This article is on somewhat of a borderline of importance, I think it could be Mid given its fairly long history, but the alumni are somewhat lacking. Many non-trivial sources cover the school. Let me know what you all think. Adam McCormick 22:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I think I'd be inclined to give this one a mid-importance rating as it is one of the founder members of the Australian Public Schools Association. I gave Scotch College, Perth, another founder member with a similar alumni profile, a mid importance rating. If not, I think we'd need to downgrade Scotch to low. Don't forget too that Australian schools are quite young in comparison to those in most other English-speaking countries. Dahliarose 22:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Aberdeen Grammar School (Start/mid) A very old school founded c.1257. Alumni include Lord Byron but there is a surprisingly short list for such an old school. The school is probably more important than is apparent from the present article. A good start at referencing. This really should be a B but more is needed on the pre-1863 history of the school and there is rather too much trivia (school colours, etc) which needs to be cut. Dahliarose 10:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Christian Brothers College, Perth (start/low) Requested re-assessment. This article essentially duplicates most of the information which is already contained in the articles on the two successor schools (Aquinas and Trinity). Indeed all the CBC alumni are on the Aquinas page as are quite a few pre-1937 pictures. I've now placed comments on the talk page of the Aquinas College, Perth article. I would suggest that the contents of this article should merged with the articles on the other two schools. If the consensus is that this article should be retained then the CBC material should be transferred from the Aquinas article. I agree that there are too many unnecessary templates at the bottom of the article. A whole template for one school seems quite unjustified. Finally if this article is kept it should be renamed as Christian Brothers' College to include the missing apostrophe. In view of the duplication I think the existing start/low rating is justified. Dahliarose 21:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Public Schools Association (B/low) The article is very thorough and is well referenced with lots of pictures (perhaps rather too many if anything). Although the schools themselves have been given higher importance ratings I don't think this article justifies anything higher than a low importance rating. The PSA is essentially an organisation which arranges sporting competitions between seven independent schools in Western Australia. It is therefore probably only of interest to a minority readership. There is a long list of sporting alumni but they are already included in the alumni lists of the individual schools. The article title is missing an apostrophe and should be renamed Public Schools' Association. Dahliarose 22:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Tanjong Katong Primary School (B/mid) A rare article. A primary school, new, with somw notability.

Should be on DYK in next 5 days. See school for detail. needs photos. Excellent refs. Victuallers 10:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Upgraded to mid importance. We have very few schools from Trinidad and Tobago and this one has some important sporting alumni. Dahliarose 22:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I generally agree with rating all categories and templates as NA importance, it clutters up the importance categories and the general importance criteria can not be used for non-articles. Camaron1 | Chris 20:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC) I have also taken the liberty of marking all disambiguation pages as NA importance as well - they are also the type of pages which cannot really be given an importance rating. Camaron1 | Chris 21:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Nikki for bringing this to our attention. It does make sense. I've gone back and changed a few templates that I'd previously assessed though you seem to have picked up most of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahliarose (talk • contribs)

October 2007

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I don't think we necessarily need to restrict the numbers per country if a school is clearly of top importance based on the criteria we've been using. I'm not familiar with Australian schools and will leave the decision to our Australian editors. Another strong candidate for top importance in Australia is Scotch College, Melbourne which hasn't yet been assessed. Dahliarose 09:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
To put it into perspective, i had never heard of the school before i saw it here, im from Australia. Twenty Years 11:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well as you might have guessed, I was willing to swing either way with the assessment. Since it seems to be Australian editors opinion that the school should be High, I accept it. Camaron1 | Chris 18:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Scotch College, Melbourne - (Start/Top) Ive assessed the article as start class, given the lack of any information on the history of the school, some sections have little/no information. Top importance, the school has an extensive alumni list, a strong history, i was tempted to give it a high importance, but the Alumni section really swayed my opinion. Twenty Years 11:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

November 2007

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December 2007

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  • Matoaca Middle School - (Start/Low). Assessed a pretty new article. There are a good amount of referenses, but not enough sections and information overall. Not small enough to be a stub, since it has about 5 sections with two to three inches of writing apiece. More info could be substantially helpful.--TheNextOneAcross (talk) 05:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Turtle Rock Elementary School - (Start/Low). Not a new article, but it seemed to be a stub. But it did have two different subheadings with minimal info in it, so I gave it a Start rating. Please feedback on this choice.--TheNextOneAcross 05:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Big Walnut High School - (Start/Low). After looking at the request and seeing the drastic changes it underwent, I was impressed. But, the article still does not have enough information and not enough SubTitles to make a B.--TheNextOneAcross (talk) 23:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Deep Run High School (B / Low) Quite a good article now with an info-box and several pictures and a sensibly good lay out. The main weakness with the article is a lack of referencing, but what has been referenced has been cited correctly. If this article is going to reach GA class much more referencing is needed, some sections are currently not referenced at all. I suggest expanding the academics section - per WP:SCH#WNTI try and convert this section into prose and put it into context of the school if possible. A section of notable alumni would also be good - I am sure there are some, just make sure this section is sourced. Finally, more pictures would help brighten up the article - in particular a picture on the logo of the school in the info-box would be wise. Keeping importance as low as not quite enough in the article as of yet suggests a higher importance. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 15:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Aberdeen Grammar School (B/high) I assessed this several months ago as start/mid based on very little meaningful content. The editors have now improved the article and requested a re-assessment. It is a very old school founded in the 13th century and is one of the best-performing schools in Scotland, hence the high importance rating. Dahliarose (talk) 17:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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