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Please use an edit summary that inspires a bit more confidence than "clean up - bother me at my talk if I mess up". A simple explanation of what you are doing is normally best. Martin 10:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I wanted something short that would let people know that editing the talk page would freeze it, I'll change it before the next run ST47Talk 10:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot Edit Error

Your bot recently edited Class 5 telephone switches and incorrectly deleted a closing bracket. I have corrected the error, and (I hope) improved the link anyway. Mmccalpin 18:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh my, why did it do that? Thanks for bringing this to may attention, I'm looking at the page now ST47Talk 18:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

oh, I see, the link was all messed up and it confused the bot, it interpreted it as an external link with an extra ], not an external link within parentheses. Thanks for fixing that link! ST47Talk 18:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Downey

Would you like to explain to me what 'Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism'. Am I being excused of vandalism if you look at the page Ringwood Town F.C. I have added more information I have in no way added nonsense or done any vandalism to it!

no, you've been blanking stuff ST47Talk 19:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Note for me, this editor is 86.29.76.0/20 ST47Talk 19:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in Azerbaijan

I saw your reply by looking in your archive. The article has been changed, and the contradictory sentence has been removed, with 5 references added, including a historical narrative.Bakaman _Bakatalk 21:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Your bot

Your bot is changing the infoboxes for Canadian MPs, changing <b> to ''' which is messing up the boxes. Please see changes for David Christopherson to see what I mean. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

that's because of how the infobox is being used. you don't need the <b>, because the infobox does it for you, check the template ST47Talk 10:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It is converting it to ''' though. Please make it stop. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Your bot indiscriminantly removes newlines.

You recently edited block cipher modes of operation and then removed some double blank lines. Those double blank lines were put into that page by human editors to make the article more readable and keep tables and maths from getting to cloose to other text. Just as many other bot "drivers" you seem to be indiscriminantly removing blank lines and/or double blank lines without checking what result that has for the page layout and readability. --David Göthberg 08:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

the bot's version looks fine to me, but if you ever need to put extra linebreaks, use <br>, as that will have the same effect. ST47Talk 10:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

NO. That's silly. This is a wiki. we use wikinotation, NOT html. Linebreaks are fine. Don't target them with the bot without a good, defensible reason.... aa:talk 16:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

YES. There are plenty of defendable reasons why the linebreak edits are good, such as removing them between categories ot interwiki links, if you have extenuating need for a break there, use the code and the bot will leave you alone, especially since there is no visible difference without the breaks. ST47Talk 18:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, double blank lines cause more space in this wikisoftware. It is a feature, not a bug. And your removal of such linebreaks inside the textbody of the article did cause several visible differences to that article. It is a feature that saves us from clogging the code with a lot of HTML <br> stuff and makes editing simpler for all of us, including for newbies that don't know HTML. --David Göthberg 20:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Astronomical objects revert

Please do not revert without discussion. Mrwuggs 16:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

please do not comment without explaination. ST47Talk 18:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Not sure why your usertalk is on my watchlist, but he's referring to [1], where someone else reverted the page back the the state it was wehn your bot last edited it. It was reverted for good reason: the user added a bunch of hypothetical/sci-fi/UFO nut objects. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go take a look ST47Talk 18:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

STBot edit: Elliot Stabler

Hello. STBot editted the article Elliot Stabler and removed a relevant category. The edit, which I reverted, can be found here. Any explanation would be helpful. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 01:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. My error. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 01:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

to note for readers, this was in reference to an edit made, removinga duplicate category. Thanks for watching the wiki! ST47Talk 01:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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Hi, my name is RyGuy. I am a newly registered user to wikipedia. I am looking for people who can help me on my User page (User: RyGuy). I was thinking that you have some pretty good things on your page, so mabye you could help. Just drop by User Talk: RyGuy if you want to help. Thanks! RyGuy 18:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! It.... um... helped.

it helpedsee?

RyGuy 16:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

cool :P ST47Talk 17:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Your bot

I don't know how to say this without being rude, but I am not sure of how useful your bot is. The default AWB edits are nice I guess, but I don't think they really are worth making if they're the only edit being made. It takes up server resources and human resources (bloating people's watchlists) that I don't think are really justified by extremely minor fixes to link formatting or where a stub tag is positioned. Besides, most articles are touched quasi-regularly by AWB as people fix typos, disambiguate links, and so on. Again I hope you don't take this the wrong way, just a hopefully constructive criticism. --W.marsh 02:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

But they son't show up on RC or watchlists, it runs overnight for most of the english-speaking world, and the edits were approved by the bag, so I think they are important, or at least, why not edits. ST47Talk 10:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Ehm, the edits done by STBot very much turns up on my "my watchlist" and also on several of the other special lists we use within Wikiproject Cryptography to watch what edits are done. And it is necessary to check those edits since I every now and then encounter damaging edits from bots, among others from your bot. I don't have much of a point of view if such small edits is worth the added resurces they cost or not. Just wanted to point out that they are visible and do cost us a lot of human work. Oh, and the times I see your bot edit is night for us Europeans but only evening for the Americans. --David Göthberg 10:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

When ST47 said bot edits don't show up on watchlists, that meant they can be set to not appear. Click on preferences at the top, then watchlist, then the box saying to hide bots from the watchlist. Click save, and you won't see them anymore. -- kenb215 talk 12:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't really want to ignore all bot edits in my watchlist, for various reasons. My point still stands, these default AWB edits really don't warrant the server and human resources they consume, they don't really fix anything readers will ever notice. --W.marsh 14:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, this does not seem to be what your bot was given the bot flag to do. --W.marsh 14:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

you call 8PM evening, i call it bedtime :P and there is a second BRFA here. ST47Talk 17:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I actually saw this because it was showing on my watchlist, twice on this page you're telling folks to change the way they use Wikipedia's default functionality to accommodate your bot. That seems backwards to me. Shouldn't editors be able to use the default settings? Especially having to use HTML on Wikipedia when they don't have to just to avoid the bot...Rx StrangeLove 06:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the reason of the < b > dealies was an error by the person who made the page, the infobox already bolded it and then they added the tag, when the bot fixed it is showed up 'like this'. ST47Talk 11:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The General fixes AWB has are designed to be minor things that can be done while doing some other task, to make the edits more worthwhile than normal bots. Doing only general fixes is not really going to be worth it. Though some of the general fixes are quite important, simplifying links and similar jobs aren't generally important enough to be done on their own. Martin 09:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

opinion: wasteful

I'd like to register my opinion of this bot, having just encountered it; I find it rather wasteful, and I believe you should seriously re-consider running it. I met it on an extremely minor article that nonetheless I have on my watchlist (no, I'm not going to turn off bot notifications) and it made extremely minor edits. At what cost, and why bother? It removed an underscore and moved a couple of s's. Is there really a need for a bot to change that kind of stuff? It has no impact on the day-to-day use of wikipedia as a resource; and for anyone who's contributing to an article, if there are enough misplaced s's and _'s to make their underpants dance, then they can just go ahead and fix it themselves (using AWB, even) while making their other changes.

--Dthatcher 14:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

why not bother? it certainly isn't hurting anyone, it's making the source less confusing, it's keeping these errors from propagating. There are 12588 pages left in the queue, it will be done by the end of the weekend. ST47Talk 15:46, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

But it IS hurting people. It's annoying people by changing formatting, often inappropriately, and forcing them to come to you as some sort of self-proclaimed authority on piddly little things. And it's draining Wikipedia server resources by doing things that don't need to be done mechanically. Do I need to repeat the arguments that everyone else on this page have made, too? For christ's sake, at least talk to somebody else about it. Start a forum or something and shut it off til you get some qualified opinions. --Dthatcher 03:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I did. It was at WP:BRFA ST47Talk 15:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

And do you feel you're following the guidelines that were laid out in letter and spirit? And is the database load really worth editing entries that are (for example) a couple paragraphs long and have 4 stray hyphens and 2 pipes? Is -your- time really worth running a bot for that? Constructive criticism: What if you put in an edit minimum of, say, 6 or 8+, to fix just the most butchered articles? --Dthatcher 22:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Mabye you're right. I agree with you, and pretty much, have from the beginning. The bot hasn't run for over a week, and I won't be running it again. ST47Talk 23:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot edits on Mathematica

Just FYI, the STBot messed up a few computer algebra examples, and failed to notice that "Pocket pc" was a redirect to "Pocket PC". Everything is fine now, but you may want to look at the page to see how you could improve the bot, and you may also want to prevent the bot from running again on this page until it is improved. Thanks, Four Dog Night 16:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

damn. thanks for letting me know, ill take a look - i don't think it likes the math code. I'm going to stop running it anyway, is it seems to draw hate :( ST47Talk 16:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Source order--templates before cats

As far as I know, stubs and other templates should be placed above categories, not the other way around. 24.19.35.187 01:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Layla

Why did you revert my edits to Layla Williams? Hmrox 15:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

sorry, from within VP it looked like they broke the redirect. Fixed. ST47Talk 15:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hustle

Why did you revert my edit to Hustle (TV series)? --84.64.51.100 19:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

There was no explaination for the bit you added and it was added using unencyclopaedic formatting - set off by hyphens. ST47Talk 19:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen a policy that requires edit summaries. 'Fixer' is grifters' terminology for the team member who takes care of the technical side of things, and the character has been referred to as such throughout the show's run.

then say that. I'll say that most wikipedians don't rob banks for a living. ST47Talk 19:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

There's no need for that kind of petulance. This wouldn't be necessary if you assumed good faith once in a while. I'm going to put my edit back in now. --84.64.51.100 19:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

"Unencyclopaedic formatting"? Whatever. Would you be satisfied if I used commas instead? --84.64.51.100 19:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

A very Californian RfA thanks from Luna Santin

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of (97/4/4)! I've never been able to accept compliments gracefully, and the heavy support from this outstanding community left me at a complete loss for words -- so, a very belated thank you for all of your kind words. I have done and will continue to do the utmost to serve the community in this new capacity, wherever it may take me, and to set an example others might wish to follow in. With a little luck and a lot of advice, this may be enough. Maybe someday the enwiki admins of the future will look back and say, "Yeah, that guy was an admin." Hopefully then they don't start talking about the explosive ArbComm case I got tied into and oh what a drama that was, but we'll see, won't we? Surely some of you have seen me in action by now; with that in mind, I openly invite and welcome any feedback here or here -- help me become the best editor and sysop I can be. Again, thank you. –Luna Santin

Glad to see you're still active in anti-vandalism. Might consider a run for admin at some point, yourself, if you feel up to it. Luna Santin 19:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

What? I voted on an RfA? Oh, that was a while ago...well, quite welcome :) - I think i might take you up on that in a month or two ST47Talk 20:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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Blocks

I'm not sure how the blocking system works. Whenever I try to edit from work (a school) the IP address is blocked. How can I get around this? I requested it be unblocked but still no joy. Ozdaren 00:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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Luka (song)

You seem to be away on IRC, check Talk:Luka (song) if you have the time, I think the article is not a copyvio after all :) See you! -- lucasbfr ^talk 01:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA

I answered the questions on RfA (sorry, I forgot). SupaStarGirl 19:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! ST47Talk 19:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:BITE

If I see you violating WP:BITE just once more, I will ask a fellow administrator on ANI to literally block you. This was one of the worst biting incidents in my entire Wikipedia career. PLEASE - reread BITE, CSD, and treat other people's work seriously. You're not doing the project any favors with edits such as those. - crz crztalk 16:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, was a little angry IRL then, and I certainly didn't mean to go off on anyone... ST47Talk 19:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

unblock auto

In regards to [2], please note that you can use {{unblock-auto reviewed}} without a decline reason to do the same thing. Thanks --  Netsnipe  ►  05:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for unblocking my IP!

Happy Halloween! :)

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WP:POST bot request

I'm sorry; I thought I had set that as my default setting. It should be fixed now, but if it happens again, let me know. You might also avoid other AWB users doing this by moving the page to a template in your userspace, and transcluding it that way. Ral315 (talk) 21:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for your support in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of (56/0/2). It was great to see so much kind support from such competent editors and administrators as commented on my RfA. I know I have much reading to do before I'll feel comfortable enough to use some of the more powerful admin tools, so I'll get right to it. Again, thanks; └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikispecies bot request

Hi ST, the bot edits can be summarized on this page: Wikispecies:User:Kempm/Request For Change II. Wikispecies has been using a layered structure for taxonavigation, but it has become to difficult to maintain. Inserting and deleting taxons ran into major problems. We're currently revising all our taxon templates (upto about 10.000), to make a tree flat. So what a bot needs to do is check the taxonavigation section and remove all ':' colons starting at a page. A sample diff: [3]. This is the most important part, that can affect upto 80.000 pages.

There could be a further request that looks like this: Check if the Taxonavigation section looks like:

==Taxonavigation==
 {{template}}
 childtaxon: [[link1]] .... [[link100]]

If it does not fit this standard, a tag should be add, for admins to take actions (Perhaps just placing the page in a category.) So admins can create the template and change the section. --Kempmichel 11:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC) (Wikispecies:User:Kempm)

Sorry:

Apparently I can't spell, sometimes. —Nightstallion (?) 20:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Somanathapura

I noticed you are doing a spell check on this. I should be done with my edits in about 2 hours. I would appreciate if you could do this at that time, to catch more errors.thanksDineshkannambadi 21:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

RFA thanks from Mike

Thank you for your Support on my recent RfA, which I withdrew at 16/20/4. The criticism I received will hopefully result in me learning becoming a better editor, and thanks again for your support! — Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 23:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I was fixing the Arnod article dummy

I was fixing the last article ... and as far as harper goes, most of what I said was true

Plural links

I was looking through Convex function's history and I noticed that STBot had edited the article and replaced [[tangent|tangents]] with [[tangent]]s. I don't think that is something that should be included in general bot cleanup. Personally I prefer wikilinks styled like the former and I change any links like that I find. Wikilinks with text outside of the brackets drive me nuts... it's a matter of personal preference, and I really think that bots should be restricted to changes that have a general consensus. ~MDD4696 18:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

That edit was almost 3 weeks ago, the bot is no longer doing that. ST47Talk 18:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your support!

Se la face ay pale, la cause est... Se la face ay pale, la cause est... 23:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

If I'm a bit pale in the face now, it's because of the amazing support during my recent request for adminship and because of all those new shiny buttons. And if in the future my use of them should not always be perfect please don't hesitate to shout at me any time, sunset, noon or sunrise.

Thanks

Hi ST47, thanks a lot for your support to my RFA. I see you are a very prolific editor and have already amassed a huge number of edits and running a bot too!! Do let me know if I can be of any help at all. (Sorry I am not good at making templates, and hence this plain looking note..) -- Lost^(talk) 10:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

LOL! np, good luck, and don't let the bureaucrats bite ST47Talk 11:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Axel Lesser article

I changed your bot remark from East Germany back to the East German. I appreciate your bot's efforts, but it made the first sentence read odd. Thank you for your efforts. Chris 02:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

actually, the bot changed East Germany to East Germany, as the pipe isn't necessary, however I agree that your version makes more sense. I actually just finished watching a show on how someone thought technology was going to take over the world - apperantly not so, huh? Thanks for letting me know! ST47Talk 03:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA:

Thank you so very much for voting support in my RfA. However, I have withdrawn due to reasons that a stressed user would withdraw under. I'm sorry I have failed you & your expectations. Thanks, Spawn Man 09:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

FLV article

It wasn't a finished edit

Since some editors seem to think there should be no external links at all in the article , no matter how useful , I was just doing a quick revert which had the bad side effect of disrupting the wiki links. I was aware of that problem and I was planning to fix it in time Garda40 13:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

My brand-spankin' new mop!

My RfA done I hope to wield my mop well (Her name is Vera) I appreciate The support you have shown me (I hope I don't suck) Anyway, I just wanted to drop you a line (damn, haikus are hard)

EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the extra feathers on my wings! Thank you so much, ST47, for your support in my RfA, which passed on November 11, 2006, with a final tally of 82/0/2. I am humbled by the kind support of so many fellow Wikipedians, and I vow to continue to work and improve with the help of these new tools. Should you have any request, do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Húsönd 19:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Erik Regtop

Hi, please can I ask why you have flagged the article Erik Regtop as a candidate for speedy deletion? Thanks, GiantSnowman Sunday, 2006-11-12 T 16:52 UTC

That may not have been the criteria I was looking for. Can you add some more information to the articles, instead of all the intimidating question marks? Thanks! ST47Talk 16:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

My failed RfA

I deleted the comment that I left here, as I was in a bad mood at the time due to the failure of the RfA and said things that I now regret. I realise this isn't good Wikipedia etiquette, so please accept my apology for that. Walton monarchist89 20:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The Vincent Black Shadow

Can you give me a chance to finish? Fears in the Water Hackajar 01:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you! Hackajar 02:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Deletion bot(?) slightly impatient

I just got started with writing European mythology and I got your "Marked for speedy deletion" notice. Of course it is a good thing that there are people like you who try to keep Wikipedia a clean place. However I think you should wait until at least a week or so after the creation of a page before you post any of such markers, because this will probably scare new editors.

nope, not a bot. pretty much, we get a lot of bad stuff (LIEK ZOMG I R TEH FIRST PERSON WIT AN ARTICLE ON WIKI) - so when you created that there wasn't much on it. There still isn't much, why don't you expand it and I'll go remove the tag. Thanks! ST47Talk 11:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input!

Thank you for taking part in my RfA. The RfA was not successful, mostly because I did a pretty bad job of presenting myself. I'll run again sometime in the next few months, in the hopes that some will reconsider.

In the meantime, one of the projects I'm working on is A Wikimedia Administrator's Handbook. This is a wikibook how-to guide intended to help new administrators learn the ropes, as well as to simply "demystify" what adminship entails. If you are an administrator, please help out with writing it, particularly on the technical aspects of the tools. Both administrators and non-administrators are welcome to help link in and sort all of the various policies regarding the use of these tools on wikipedia in particular (as well as other projects: for example, I have almost no experience with how things work on wiktionary or wikinews). Users who are neither familiar with policy or the sysop tools could be of great help by asking questions about anything that's unclear. The goal is to get everything together in one place, with a narrative form designed to anticipate the reader's next question.

A second project, related but not entailed, is a book on wikimedia in general, with a history of how various policies evolved over time, interesting trivia (e.g., what the heck was "wikimoney" about?), and a history of how the wikimedia foundation itself came about and the larger issues that occurred during its history (such as the infamous "Spanish Fork").

Again, thanks for your input on the RfA, and thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide for the handbook. --SB_Johnny|^talk|_books 13:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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anon with no sig and who is trying to mess up my talk

Why is my submission flagged! Can you give me a reasonable explanation to why this occurred?

JBalton

WHY WAS MY SUBMISSION BLOKED 0 CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE???

About useless edits

Considering the message you left me on my talk page, I replay that I won't do it again. Thank you for your polite language. --Meno25 22:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Nice to know you. --Meno25 23:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

anon

You just edited my addition to yhe article "Overweight". I will repost it, but don't reedit it. It wasn't experimental, it was intended.

List of characters from Family Guy

I just restored your revert of my 3 edits without the <<episode needed>> tags ... if you look at the difference, I think you will see that they were valid edits. I'll come back Some Other Day and stick {{fact}} templates instead. Fight creeping cruft! —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 01:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

If you want to add that, you can, just put the hidden part inside <!-- here --> ST47Talk 01:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

What I really need is a Template for indicating, "When you add a character's appearance in a cameo, cutaway scene, or flashback, be sure to add a link to the specific episode." I'm just trying to make this (and similar articles) more encyclopedic than just, "In one episode, ..." If I can remember the episode, I add it, and in other cases, I enclose the episode name in double-quotes (or italics, if it's a movie or another TV show) and double square brackets so that it's linked.

By experimentation, I have discovered the tag, which will be Really Helpful ... had I known about it, I would have used it instead! —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 01:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

mughal empire

hey,

yeah....it was not intended vandalism......I did not receive a digital manuscript for the text from my column writer, so I had to do it by hand and shorten it out, sorry about all the edits!!

prof Hughes

Sherlock Holmes

In this edit [4], you restored a piece of vandalism that had just been removed ! Shome mishtake shurely ? -- Beardo 02:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Homebake edit

I added Midget to the 1996 Sydney Homebake lineup and it was removed. Why? They did play - right before Something For Kate.

Joseph Smith: Prophet of the Restoration

What vandalism are you talking about? Here is the edits in question. All I did was remove the stub tags and fix those Categories: (1) The stub tags are not appropriate because the article it too long to be a stub; (2) Category:Presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is for people, not films; (3) Category:History of the Latter Day Saint movement is for actual history, not depictions of history, and (4) Category:Joseph Smith, Jr. is a better category anyways, and it's a sub cat of Category:History of the Latter Day Saint movement anyways. If you disagree with my assessment, that's fine, it's your right, but don't label disagreements about content as vandalism (assume good faith), and defiantly do not give a incorrect Final warning; there are better ways to deal with conflicts than they way you are choosing. -- 12.106.111.10 21:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I used a t4 on an ip with a t3, that's procedure. you removed two tags and two cats with no editsummary. ST47Talk 21:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Official Wikipedia policy is assume good faith, even for edits made by IP addresses with no edit summary. Vandalism is "any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Wikipedia." Please, next time look before you shoot. -- 12.106.111.10 23:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Erode

This ip address is that of a university hence even though I am not the person who made those edits, I can assure you that they were NOT vandalisms. The person who added them in all likelihood lived there and wished to add the name of a college which he knew existed yet was not listed. 203.197.196.1 01:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

User talk:193.180.104.200

Check out how many times you warned this guy here - sorry wish I'd seen sooner!  Glen  11:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

oh my! Thanks for blocking him :P! ST47Talk 11:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

spammer

My Additions concerning Seth Tinsley on the Lincoln Herndon Page are historically accurate. DO NOT CHANGE THEM unlee you have the evidence / research to do so.

I see - your linkspam is accurate? ST47Talk 19:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Please quit dinging my edits on the Lincoln-Herndon page. The Tinsley Dry Goods web page is part of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency. Also, if you have a PHd in History or better ... tell me where from. Otherwise bugoff! George

I don't need a degree in history to read WP:SPAM, and I can read the big heading at the top of my talkpage. Try it someday, it might get a better response if I don't have to hunt in my history to figure out who you are ST47Talk 19:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

3RR

Have replied on my talk page. Arbitrary username 09:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Robot

Just occasionally, RobotG (talk · contribs) gets logged out and puts through the odd edit anonymously. Please let it pass. --RobertG ♬ talk 11:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, wasn't sure when I saw the bot edits on VP - why dont you put a note on your IP's talk? ST47Talk 11:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

noob below this line

Look You piece, my edits were valid. You mess up everybody shit, mabye you should stop re-editing peoples things. You gay fuck.

Headline text

You Suck Stop editing my edits. You are a piece of crap and don't know how to use a computer. You fuck.

this one I had to respond to - I think he meant to put "you suck" as the section name ST47Talk 19:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

ASS

You piece of fucking shit, your mother was a frisco dike. You fuck for dollars. Also your dad was a jiggalo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.165.16.201 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 17 November 2006.

this user has been blocked for 24 hours ST47Talk 19:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Why? Seems innocent enough to me... haz (talk) e 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding my "nonsence" on the sandbox

HELLO! that is the SANDBOX, i was EXPERIMENTING

im angry now!82.44.252.243 19:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it was a mistake, and you'll find you get much better responses from people when you don't come and SHOUT at THEM about YOUR edits ON the SANDBOX oK? ST47Talk 19:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I was obviosly angry...--82.44.252.243 19:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

then calm down before you make someone else angry, like an admin who can block you ST47Talk 19:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not that angry, sometimes people interprate capitals as extremely loud shouts by a person with mental issues, banging his fists around the table breaking a few stuff... I really should rethink how I express my anger to someone so that no one over-interprates it. --82.44.252.243 19:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

guy

Alisonheritage2291 12:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)I am on a no smoking program, but im allergic to the sticky on the back of patches. my legs are red raw and a burning feeling. i was given a barrier cream to put on, but it works for a while and then the symptomes come back. i have tried anti-histamins and they are not working for me.can you give me advice.

RfA Thanks

Thank you for the Support I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, ST47, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

A week ago I nominated myself, hoping to be able to help Wikipedia as an administrator as much as a WikiGnome. I am very glad many others shared my thoughts, including you. Thank you for your trust! Be sure I will use these tools to protect and prevent and not to harass or punish. Should you feel I am overreacting, pat me so that I can correct myself. Thanks again! ReyBrujo 19:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

editing of page on "newsletter"

Hi,

Why did you remove the stuff I added the Newsletter? No offence, but just want to understand the reasons.

Stardancer

Hi! I've never edited Newsletter - are you sure it was me? ST47Talk 20:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The edit is marked as STBot, and this bot refers to you. Please check. User:Stardancer

you mean this? That's just fixing a link that was messed up. ST47Talk 11:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it looks like I've confused your edit with the next one from 212.219.118.2. I wonder who this guy is. Sorry about the confusion. Stardancer

heh - np ST47Talk 12:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Do you want to be ma' friend if ya' do tell me

Regarding User: 167.206.78.2

This anonymous user is on a multiple I.P Address server. Last time it was blocked, I, a fair wikipedian, could not reverse some vandalism. However, I sign in, and this anonymous user does not. Could you please block just the I.P address, but if someone signs in it will be temporarily unblocked?

Thank you, ~Railcgun

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Hello! I have come across your name several times tonight while reverting vandalism and non-notable articles, here, here, here, here and here. Do you look at an editors' contributions before welcoming them? I suppose that if you welcome very many people then you are bound to come across a few vandals. It is wise to do a quick check of their contributions before issuing the welcome notice, as you may well come across a specific instance where directed advice or a warning would be well-placed. It seems incongruous to welcome someone one minute then have another person warn them about their actions. (aeropagitica) 22:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I notice you welcomed a user, Guggisberg, who put up a page on an ancestor of his, but there are no citations, and it is kind of a mess. I don't want to "bite" the newbie. Can you suggest something to him? -- Ssilvers 22:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Aero, that's a good idea and ill do that, and ssilvers, ill take a look ST47Talk 22:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Vincent

Hello I am leaving a message here as requested. I started editing the Scott Ritter article because it is very biased. Vincent Farnsworth 20:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Vincent

Your RfA

... is transcluded incorrectly. You've transcluded your userpage instead. Yikes... riana_dzasta 17:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that's not what you did... I fixed it. :) riana_dzasta 18:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

YIKES! i didn't mean to transclude my userpage - thanks for fixing it :P ST47Talk 18:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't think you did! Seemed a bit odd. ;) You're welcome. riana_dzasta 18:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk page

I just need help.Bold textLots of It.Please.Alchemistjikan 19:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Told you

See what I mean.Alchemistjikan 19:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, with the Bold typing - three apostrophes starts bold, and three more ends it. anything you need? ST47Talk 19:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

I readily understand that one might be upset over his encountering strident opposition at his RfA, especially where he thinks such opposition to be without merit or improperly to focus on insignificant edits that tend to present an inaccurate picture of him, and I even understand that one might react viscerally upon his appreciating that his RfA will not succeed, but I think this to be bad form; not only, to be sure, is it less-than-civil, but it also impugns the reasoning skills and good faith of those opposing, none of whom seems to have opposed vengefully. I sincerely hope that such withdrawal was offered in exhaustion and with, as many of your other (quite fine) communications, a humorous undertone; if not, you've served only to bear out that those those who were concerned about your ability to be cordial and other-than-abrupt in your dealings with other editors (amongst which number I tended to count myself) were correct. Joe 19:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I feel I made the right decision opposing you RfA, especially after you outburst at the end saying frak you all. In regard to the, since when is anyone punished for an accident 2 weeks after? remark you made, well... In my RfA, I had an incident 2 months before & was denied becasue of it. However, if you keep a clean sheet for the next few months, you should have no trouble making it, as comments made after a stressful RfA are always understandable. More so than an outburst from nowhere. Please stay civil & cheer up. Don't leave Wikipedia or anything either. As an admin once told me; If an admin leaves, anybody can delete an article etc. However, if an editor or writer leaves, it makes a bigger impact. So hang in there & stay cool whlst waiting for your next RfA... :) Spawn Man 04:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support at RFA

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me, and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 22:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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There is a malicious WIKIPEDIA vandal named Rolan Rance, operating under user name RolandR, who has been posting and reposting false and libelous information on a number of Wikipedia pages, including the articles on David Bukay, Steven Plaut, and a few others. He then has requested page protection to prevent other sfrom correcting and repairing his vandalism.

Please do something to put a stop to his malicious mischief.

Thank you

Josef Szamuels

The information is neither false nor libellous. It is true and fully referenced. The pages have been protected, not in order to prevent genuine editing by editors with differing views and interpretations, but to prevent unidentified individuals from opening new accounts, and then immediately using these pages to post offensive and libellous comments attacking me. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive148#Repeated personal attacks for details. This complaint seems to come from another in the long string of attack accounts set up in order to protect Plaut and Bukay, and to traduce me. --RolandR 12:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I've reviewed the situation, watched the page, and warned both users for 3RR. Any 3RR after this point will get you blocked, and editwarring without violating 3RR will just hurt your position. ST47Talk 20:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

The problem with this attempted even-handedness is that I have been restoring properly sourced information, which is being repeatedly renoved -- without any discussion -- by an account apparently set up purely for the purpose of editing this article. Steven Plaut was semi-protected after new accounts were set up, with the apparent purpose of merely editing this article, and adding personal abuse. As soon as the semi-protection was lifted, a new account was set up, which was used to revert the article three times, and to complain about me after my first reversion. --RolandR 01:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Then you may have abusive sockpuppets. You can visit WP:RFCU to confirm that they are the same person, then visit WP:AN/I to report it and get a block in place. I'd say that the RFCU is code C, based on the table. If I had the names and everything, I'd file it for you, but it seems like you know what's going on more than I. ST47Talk 01:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I looked at the history and filed a request at WP:RFCU ST47Talk 01:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I made such a request some weeks ago, still unanswered, at WP:RFCU#Fumigate. This has many more Userids and IPs than you list. I tried to add info to your request at WP:RFCU#Szamuels, but there seems to be a problem with the section edit tag, and I'm unable to open that section for editing. But my earlier request is still on the page.--RolandR 10:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Roland Rance is a malicious liar and vandal. He vandalizes wikipedia pages on Zionists. He simply inserted malicious libelous material on the basis of an unsupported assertion by David Newman, Neve Gordon's crony and sidekick, which Newman inserted in a Tikkun article. Tikkun is not a source anyone would consider authoritative nor serious. The judg ein th ecase in question herself dismissed Newman's statement as baseless. In Newman's Tikkun article, he had no evidence nor factual supports to back up his assertion. It was simply what he thought. Rance has been inserting this in th eweb page as an internet prank.

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CFD removals

Greetings. I noticed that, after your bot removed Category:Fictional heroines from pages, they were not being removed from redirects. I've cleaned (actually in the process of) this cat from redirects, but is there a way to catch these in the future, or is it an intrinsic error of the wiki code? Cheers! -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 04:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my bot's an idiot like that. I'll send it throuth those again and have it remove from the redirect pages, thanks for letting me know! ST47Talk 11:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

CfR

I replied at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Effecting_a_CfR TonyTheTiger 19:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

CFD (NZ soccer)

Hi - I notice a glitches with your STbot - it seems to have removed categories from articles affected by the proposed change in the names of New Zealand soccer categories (from football to soccer), but not replaced new categories (Chatham Cup is one example). Also for some reason (possibly related and almost certainly piping) Category:New Zealand football clubs seems to be in a completely haphazard order. Grutness...wha? 20:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Shit. I'm not sure why, though I will fix the categories properly using an old database dump. Thanks for telling me. ST47Talk 20:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

as for the order, there isn't a single reason why it should be doing that :S ST47Talk 19:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

24.72.1.39 edit abuse.

Hello!

I just noticed that 24.72.1.39 again had an interesting run-in with Wikipedia staff and I thought I'd try my best to rectify the situation...

24.72.1.39 is actually a public highschool of some 600 unmonitored, public computers behind a centralized NAT server, meaning vandalism from this range is all but inevitable. Its user page actually contains edits that I made, recommending that it be permanently blocked (complete with weather information) but nobody saw it initially.

It should also be apparent on 24.72.1.39's user page how I know this, I go to that school, and thats where I edited the userpage from!

Im not sure of the criteria for permanently blocking an address from editing, but I suggest you strongly consider this one. Its a static IP address, as the provider for their internet service is the same I use (a Shaw-based corporation in the local area).

- RiceCake

anybody created a wiki?

Has anyone created a wiki? Reply and please tell the name.

thx

Thanks to whoever replied. im ok. my wiki is perfect. What i mean is, have you ever made a wikipedia page?Mattthecat 19:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Abuse_reports/204.43.65.1

How is it going?Ddcc 15:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Nver got a reply - I thoguh I removed it from WP:ABUSE ST47Talk 22:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok. BTW, people normally reply on the others' talk page. Ddcc 02:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Subst'ing {{wc}} et. al

Thanks for doing these. It seems some of the uses are {{WC}} rather than {{wc}}. I've also spotted another template in the area that could do with subst'ing (same thing - the whole "template masquerading as article content" thing). I'll dig a little deeper to catch a fuller list that will come back here in the first instance, and back to WP:BOTREQ if you're not up for it. Chris cheese whine 22:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Just list templates here, I'm allowed to do any now that it's approved, as for the capitals, i can run through again, though it was supposed to be case insensitive. I'll check. Thanks! ST47Talk 00:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

So far: {{nft}}, {{nftu21}}, {{wnft}}. Chris cheese whine 02:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT

Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. -- RM 00:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism? Me?

User talk:72.138.173.193 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy.Pascal.Tesson 04:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Sports drink, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. ST47Talk 19:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I have recieved this message on two occaisons and found them to be useless and offensive. Upon trying to edit pages for clarity, as was the case on the Laxatives page, changing "more for ladies" to "feminine" and trying to fix a link on the Sports Drink page (Mountain Dew AMP) I was told I was vandalising these pages. Why is this, and what can I do to stop it? I am not a vandal, and I have made many edits before that, in my view, have helped the Wikipedia project along.

Anthalamo

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Hi, your bot flag has been granted. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! ST47Talk 11:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Pitdog

High End audio - ATC company removal. can it be put back into the document? i realize i didn't supply proper links, but the info is legit, the company is quite sth among the high end hardware manufacturers. soon i hope to have some time to create a separate entry about ATC. regards - pitdog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pitdog

Assuming good faith

Dude, when I prove that good faith doesn't exist, and then close by saying "that's in bad faith," then I don't see why I would be required to assume good faith. In the presence of overwhelming evidence, provided by me, destroying such a presumption, it's nonsensical to retain such a presumption. When you rebut a presumption, it disappears.

Also, I hope Tuxide wasn't too hard on you. I know he said some mean things and threatened to report your violation, but that's not the way I roll, and I will defend you against his assault. BonniePrinceCharlie 16:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a headache today - remind me what we're talking about? ST47Talk 19:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

What Is Your Bot Doing?

Looks like you're ripping out a whole bunch of information that ought not be ripped out (e.g., [5]). What is the purpose of the edits? --DanielPenfield 15:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The change in question removed an interwiki link to an article that didn't exist. It looked to me like the link was malformed, but I don't speak the language. The bot in this case removed a bad link. -- RM 15:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Sadly, neither does my bot. The link was to a non-existent page (Valeur absolue des écarts), and because of the -force parameter, it is removed. Also, the bot did not find any good links to fr, or else it would have replaced it. ST47Talk 16:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like certain browsers can't understand multibyte characters and are corrupting articles on edits. Your bot then compounds the problem by deleting them out-of-hand rather than attempting to repair. Admittedly a good repair algorithm might be technically challenging, but it would be preferable to simply deleting with no explanation other than "robot Removing: ...". --DanielPenfield 16:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

First, it's not vandalism, so WP:AGF. Have you found where it was corrupted? With examples, it can probably be fixed to replace the characters with the original link, if you can explain what the difference between the version I removed and the version you reverted to was, I can ask the programmers. ST47Talk 18:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears to me that in this instance, either the browser (or text editor if the Finn copied the article edit window to an editor, made changes, and then pasted back into the browser) converted the ISO/IEC 8859-1 character 0xE9 ("é") to its UTF-8 equivalent ("é"). May I suggest you examine what your bot is doing and compare that to what you think it should be doing? A better approach is to perform a dry run and randomly inspect the edits it would make to make sure you understand what was going on before running something that makes permanent changes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanielPenfield (talk • contribs) 21:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

American strong ale

Hi. You did some work on this article. I'm now proposing a redirect to Pale Ale, similar to the original redirect. American strong ale is a variation on pale ale, and the different variations are best initially discussed in the main article. Later, if enough information grows, we can split it off, but for now it might be best to allow it to grow in a place where attention could be concentrated. SilkTork 21:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Your recent vandalism to User:Colin Keigher

Please do not edit the user pages of other contributors without their approval or consent, as you did with User:Colin Keigher. It may be seen as vandalism. ST47Talk 01:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Questionable edit by bot

Hello! Altmann was recently edited by your bot to this version. I couldn't figure out why it might have been done, since it didn't make any sense to delete the valid interwiki links. I reverted the edit, but thought you might like to look into it. Best regards, Cmprince 01:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me! The second link, to ja, was deleted because it linked to a dead page. The other one(de?) was deleted because it wasn't properly marked as a disambiguation, or for some reason the bot thought it wasn't a DaB - it's probably an isolated incident, the bot is usually good about that. If it detects DaBness using templates, which I suspect, I'll see if the {{surname}} can be added. ST47Talk 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

This sounds like the same type of link that was removed from Aramachi Station (Miyagi). The original ja: link was to DAB page, so maybe the bot doesn't recognize other language's DAB templates (on the ja DAB page, a template named {{aimai}} was used). Neier 12:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

This is at least the second complaint about your bot. IMHO you should be actively investigating the changes rather than summarily discounting them. --DanielPenfield 14:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The DaB to non-DaB issue has been resolved by a manual patch. we do not know all the DaB templates or categories yet, because of new ones, or rare ones, as I am told about them or as other people add them ,I will update my config. ST47Talk 19:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)