User talk:Meatsgains/Archive 18

Samata Shiksha Niketan

You beat me to the punch! Their draft got rejected so it seems they just tried to make the page themselves. This user is actually becoming very disruptive they might need to be blocked soon. I have left them a personal message, which they never responded too, and they have repeatedly created pages (6 so far) that are clearly their family members or best friends with one or two lines. If you look at their user page they are likely trying to create blue links for the redlinks. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Quite a few messages/warnings on the their talk page. Might be worth taking to WP:ANI since they clearly are non-responsive. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:10, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I posted on ANI a few hours after I sent you this message since they recreated two new pages that were Speedied. They seem to have stopepd for now. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I will keep en eye on their edit history. Meatsgains^(talk) 03:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Arlington (band)

Hello Meatsgains. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Arlington (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being signed to a notable label indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#SINGER, WP:CCSI#BAND). Thank you. SoWhy 08:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Suspension of habeas corpus

The page was originally a redirect blanked by an IP. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 03:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Altoona child sexual abuse scandal

Hi. I saw you patrolled Altoona child sexual abuse scandal. Were you able to tell where it came from?This strikes me something copied from Wikipedia so but I can't find it on Wikipedia leading me to think it is from a deleted article. But that's as far as I got. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:53, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Good catch - I've unreviewed the page. Not sure what to make of the Encyclopedia Britannia link though... let me do some digging and see what I can find. Meatsgains^(talk) 03:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Meatsgains That site has a CCA tag so in theory reuse is fine. But the broken wikicode there is what leads me to believe it's originally from Wikipedia. And since I couldn't find it on Wikipedia (where again reuse with attribution would obviously be OK) my best hypothesis is that it's from a deleted page. But I was unable to locate an AfD discussion that was maybe about the topic. So my investigation ran into a dead-end at which point I watch listed the page hoping another reviewer would be able to discern more than me or the article's author would answer my querry. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk)

@Barkeep49: Take a peak at this, this, and this and let me know what you make of it. Meatsgains^(talk) 03:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I nominated the page for WP:AfD. Feel free to discuss here. Meatsgains^(talk) 03:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Meatsgains Good find on the RfD. I only checked AfD. Are you going to SPI? Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Thank you. Its pretty clear this is the same sock. This was removed from the talk page which linked the account to user TheCreaTorPonic, who was investigated on this SPI. I'm clocking out for the night. Would you mind taking it to SPI? Otherwise I'll try to tomorrow. Meatsgains^(talk) 03:29, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Meatsgains I've privately alerted a checkuser who is aware of the previous incident. If they don't take action I'll be happy to file the formal case. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Cairo International Airport

I removed Juneyao Airlines because WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT point #11, an exact date is needed. Thanks. 97.85.118.142 (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification! Meatsgains^(talk) 17:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Article review: Sabana Grande (Caracas)

Hey. The Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabana_Grande,_Caracas has been vandalised by Jamez42. 100,000 characters have been deleted and several quotes/sources from relevant authors and academicians.

Please, I kindly ask you to review the article.

--QuinteroP (talk) 09:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@QuinteroP: Why did you write to 14 editors and didn't ping me? The edit was not vandalism, and you have already opened a peer review of the article. --Jamez42 (talk) 16:20, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Meatsgains,

News

• The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

• Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
• {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
• A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

Reminders

• NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.

NPP Tools Report

• Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
• copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
• The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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AfD closure of Talk:Pan-African Freedom Movement for East and Central Africa

Hi Meatsgains, just drawing your attention to the fact that this edit is not pointing to the relevant AfD discussion. Can you please remedy this issue just in case it is needed in the future? Thanks.Tamsier (talk) 10:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've corrected the mistake. [1] Meatsgains^(talk) 15:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, Meatgsgains! Thanks for the kind welcome. Means a lot. Looking forward to getting really good at this, with your help. Really love wikipedia! Best. Vibiana St Vibiana (talk) 01:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC) P.S. Is this the proper way to leave you a message?

@St Vibiana: You're very welcome! Hope you plan to stay. And yes, it is! Meatsgains^(talk) 01:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Jim Bronner

Hello Meatsgains. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Jim Bronner, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims he represented many notable athletes and has been the first to establish a certain kind of contract; also GBooks finds quite a few hits. Take it to WP:AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 10:13, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of International Society for Environmental Epidemiology

Hi there Meatsgains! Very excited to find something that wasn't written on Wikipedia so wanted to take a stab at creating something - referenced and all. Thanks for your input! I would love to update the first paragraph to solve the issue you brought up about having it be relevant. As mentioned in my contested deletion, ISEE informs global public policy, and is a very prominent (global) scientific association. As I make changes to the article I would love any input or help!

Article in question: International Society for Environmental Epidemiology

Best,

--aaldere1 (talk) 13:38, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

@Aaldere1: Although the speedily deletion tag was removed, I'd recommend finding independent reliable sources detailing the society to establish notability. Most of the page's current references are self-published. Hope this helps. Meatsgains^(talk) 18:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

LPL Financial

Hello Meatsgains ~ can you tell me why you undid the legal, I think it is note worthy information when a large corporation has been in trouble with a securities board especially when that large corporation deals in securities and investments Mitchellhobbs (talk) 23:34, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I just read the WP:UNDUE I don't see where you are coming with the revert under those circumstances ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 23:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Because a $450,000 fine is not significant. The only source your provided was the actual court document. Please provide additional sources. Meatsgains^(talk) 15:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ~~lol ~~ mitch ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 18:15, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mitchellhobbs: Welcome! There's a ton of info out there. The page just needs to be updated. Meatsgains^(talk) 18:27, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft:GPS Hospitality

Good morning Meatsgains Hope you had your coffee,

I sent this draft for review, If you are the reviewer please let me know what I have to do to improve in order to be accepted, also there is a section in Burger King franchises (at the bottom) and GPS Hospitality for ref of why I started this article ~ thanks ~ mitch ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I made a handful of corrections to punctuation and grammar and removed content that was either unsourced or had poor sourcing. Meatsgains^(talk) 18:17, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

GPS Hospitality

~ goober

Thanks Mitchellhobbs (talk) 19:24, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

invitation to Request for Comment on subject of Bruno Bettelheim

As a previous participant in an RfC on Bettelheim, you are invited to a new ongoing RfC on Bettelheim. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 23:28, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bruno_Bettelheim#rfc_7DDF8CC

Bellsbank Warriors

Hi Meatsgains, I just wondered if you are in agreement with the content of the Bellsbank Warriors page. There is reference to Komachi Park however I can't locate it on a map. In Bellsbank there is a Bradon Ave (not Bradan) however there is no indication of a park on this road? There has been no update to their Twitter account since 2018 and that mentions their location as Station Park? All very confusing? Regards, Neils51 (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Neils51: Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was unable to find any reliable sources confirming its existence and have nominated the page for deletion here. Feel free to discuss at the AfD. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Meatsgains,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

• Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
• Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News

• Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Discussions of interest

• A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
• There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
• What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Elmidae. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Aniara (film), and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:04, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

To explain - while it's very likely that sources for this can be added at short notice, I don't think a completely unsourced article should be marked as reviewed. I won't stand on it if you disagree strongly, however. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

@Elmidae: I'm not opposed however, the page has since been deleted. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I think before that, Kudpung went and draftified it - which arguably is what either of us should have done :p Sorted in any case... Cheers! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Badnam Song listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Badnam Song. Since you had some involvement with the Badnam Song redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Fast Track Racing

Hi there. I had been watching Fast Track Racing because it's author has been doing some iffy stuff lately. What did you see that indicated notability for you? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:51, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I added the uncategorized tag and it automatically marked the page as reviewed. I do not have a strong opinion on the team's notability but do not oppose deleting the page. Meatsgains^(talk) 23:49, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

speedy deletion questons

Hi Meatsgains, I got your note for Afforestt and I still think this is a enterprise that deserves to be part of wikipedia. I tried making the page as best as possible (clearly needs some more edits) but I don't think it is worth deleting. Can you please give me some pointers on how to make it better so it doesn't get flagged? Thanks Magenta2018

Looks like the page was deleted. I don't recall reviewing the page. What I would recommend is creating a draft in your WP:SANDBOX before uploading to the mainspace to avoid premature deletion. Meatsgains^(talk) 23:55, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#wallmine

Hi Meatsgains, I need your help ~ I tried to do ~ what I thought was the right thing ~ and I got what I think was a pretty self serving answer ~ so I left an edit on here ~ I think the source is pretty reliable ~ what do you think ~ believe me ~! I respect you more than some slob from England ~ regards Mitchellhobbs (talk) 17:05, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Since the discussion on the reliability of wallmine has been archived on the WP:RSN, I'll respond here. The webpage appears to be reliable in the sense that it is an aggregate of different reliable sources republished. As for the the blog it lists, not reliable. I'm not opposed to using it as a source for uncontroversial information. Meatsgains^(talk) 00:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Vanessa Fleisch

I was wondering why Vanessa Fleisch does not meet the importance criteria? She is the mayor of a town of 35,000 in Georgia, and regularly makes Atlanta area news. Do I need to cover her importance more in the article, or will that not help? -- help and advice to a new editor much appreciated -- Mharbert20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mharbert20 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. Simply being a mayor of a small town and only having local coverage does not establish notability. Is she notable for anything else? Is she covered in national media outlets? Meatsgains^(talk) 03:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Meatsgains - I included this in the talk page for Vanessa Fleisch but here's my case: She has received coverage in the Atlanta Journal Constitution regularly (main newspaper for Atlanta metro area, reaching 5 million+), suggesting her reach extends far beyond Peachtree City. She has been covered in the Atlanta Magazine, techdirt.com, and the Seattle Times, among many other local sources.

Additionally she is the first female mayor of Peachtree City, and was involved in an effort to move forward an anti-defamation resolution that was very controversial and was eventually rejected due to public outcry, and under pressure from the Georgia ACLU.

I'm a new user, so I could be wrong, and if so please help me learn more about Wikipedia, but I just wanted to get a chance to put my case out there.

Mharbert20 (talk) 04:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I would still consider news outlets in Atlanta local coverage. Techdirt is not a reliable source, its a blog and the Seattle Times article you linked only mentions her in passing. I've nominated the page for WP:AfD. Feel free to discuss here. I recommend reading through WP:N to get a better understanding of notability. Good luck! Meatsgains^(talk) 17:35, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Chad Mayes Page

Hi Meatsgains,

I wanted to see if I could get some guidance for editing this page. This time some edits were kept, which is great, but major sections/accomplishments were still deleted. My guess is some of the sections weren't quite as objective as they should have been, but before I put too much work into this, I wanted to see what direction you were concerned with.

-John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jknobel (talk • contribs) 18:04, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Jknobel: Thank you for reaching out on my talk page as opposed to engaging in an edit war. See below for a list of my recommendations to start:

1. Read though WP:CITEFOOT for instructions n how to add an inline citation correctly.
2. "Mayes has angered many Californian Republicans" - This is a POV claim that will need additional reliable sources to avoid WP:UNDUE
3. "Assembly Speaker Atkins appointed Mayes to the 'prestigious'"... - Peacock words like this are not a neutral description and need to be removed.
4. The entire Elected Assembly Republican Leader section is highly promotional. It needs to be trimmed down significantly if it is to be restored.

I'd also suggest creating a draft in your WP:SANDBOX before uploading to Chad Mayes' page. I would be happy to review the draft beforehand to avoid a blanket revert again. Meatsgains^(talk) 16:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Meatsgains,

Thank you so much for the tips. I'll work on the changes in Sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jknobel (talk • contribs) 21:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Added some edits to my sandbox, any suggestions are appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jknobel (talk • contribs) 22:50, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Advance HE page

Hi there. Many thanks for your message about Advance HE. I have responded accordingly on its talk page.

Help Request Regarding Article Deletion Inquiry

You recently came to my page, informign me that if in any doubt, I could come to you. I hope I have made this request properly and in format with your page. I was wondering what you could tell me about my article Fw 860. I think it is a valid addition to Wikipedia and I have seen several WikiLinks to it on other articles such as in Focke-Wulf and Tail-sitter so I was wondering if you might know why it could be deleted. Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Focke_Wulf_Fw_860 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PiggleMcDiggle (talk • contribs) 10:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

The nominator argued that the Focke Wulf Fw 860 was an obscure project that never made it to even becoming a prototype. That being said, I side with him in that all the German V/STOL projects be merged into one encompassing article. Meatsgains^(talk) 01:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Gretchen Custodio Diez

Hello Meatsgains. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gretchen Custodio Diez, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: clearly has received coverage in multiple reliable sources. Whether that's sufficient to overcome WP:BLP1E is for WP:AFD to decide. Thank you. SoWhy 06:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I've nominated for AfD. Meatsgains^(talk) 14:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Re. speedy deletion of Prestige Financial Services Inc.

Thanks for your efforts to keep Wikipedia content relevant and useful.

Speedy deletion this article was based on the claim that the topic is not meaningful, or something to that extent. This claim is refuted on the ground that is one of the entities owned by Larry H Miller. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_H._Miller The other Miller-owned entities cited in the article have wikipedia articles; PFS Inc should as well.

Nope, Prestige Financial Services is not a notable corporation. Meatsgains^(talk) 21:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Still Nasty

Not a reference to you! I'm referring to Still Nasty - you marked it as reviewed, but I can't find any sourcing that would get it over the line on GNG or NALBUM - I was considering sending it to AfD, but thought I should check with you first in case you were aware of sources that I'd missed. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 19:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi - sorry to hassle you about this, but I had another look just now and I still can't find any sourcing about this album other than UGC fan sites, and a couple of brief mentions in articles about the artist. I'm thinking that a redirect to Fresh_Kid_Ice#Discography would be appropriate, but wanted to check with you in case you had found anything when reviewing that I had overlooked. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 21:12, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Apologies - just now getting back to you. Looks like the page was redirected to Fresh Kid Ice, which in no way am I opposed to. Thanks! Meatsgains^(talk) 15:30, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Categories

Thanks for reminding me about categories, but... I do not know how :( I edited several articles, but created few new ones. It is so easy to edit an existing list of categories, but without it, I just cannot go past the template thing... == (from:) Krzysztof Leski (talk) 02:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I went ahead and added a category but for future reference, just click on the + sign and start typing. Meatsgains^(talk) 02:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Mary Lidstrom

Just a friendly heads up on Mary Lidstrom. I declined the speedy because holding a named chair is not only a claim of importance, it meets WP:NACADEMIC ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 04:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Meatsgains^(talk) 02:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Meatsgains,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion

• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
• Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Not English

• A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.

Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

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A goat for you!

Thanks for reaching out!

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Welcome! Meatsgains^(talk) 20:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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