User talk:Jj137/Archive 6
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Just a quick note... When adding a game log template to an article, don't use "subst". This causes the game log to be edited in two separate places, which can be confusing. Let me know if you have any questions. Caknuck (talk) 15:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- On 2008 Boston Red Sox season, one of your edit summaries references a "vote". I didn't see any such discussion at any of the related WP:WPBB talk pages. Can you direct me it? Thanks, Caknuck (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- It wasn't really an official "vote"; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 4#Proposal to substitute game logs into articles. Read the whole discussion and see what you think. It seems to be a consensus among some of the more active editors in this category to keep game logs currently being edited editable on the article, and then moved into a template upon their completion. jj137 ♠ Talk 20:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, after reading that more closely, I'd say only a few editors (but no worries). I'm trying to keep all of the game logs currently editable on the articles until their completion, when they can be moved into a template. However, this is only for the newer templates we create since that discussion; the game log templates created before that, completely or not, can stay where they are. Tell me what you think. (It seems to be easier to simply edit them there instead of going back and forth between the article and the template. That makes it confusing.) jj137 ♠ Talk 20:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was hoping there was another discussion, because there is no way to interpret a clear consensus from that thread. Four editors (myself, User:Steven Andrew Miller, User:Wknight94 and User:X96lee15) sided with separate transcluded templates and three (User:Borgarde, User:Soxrock and yourself) supported subst'ing them into the article. How do you get consensus out of that?
- Actually, after reading that more closely, I'd say only a few editors (but no worries). I'm trying to keep all of the game logs currently editable on the articles until their completion, when they can be moved into a template. However, this is only for the newer templates we create since that discussion; the game log templates created before that, completely or not, can stay where they are. Tell me what you think. (It seems to be easier to simply edit them there instead of going back and forth between the article and the template. That makes it confusing.) jj137 ♠ Talk 20:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- It wasn't really an official "vote"; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 4#Proposal to substitute game logs into articles. Read the whole discussion and see what you think. It seems to be a consensus among some of the more active editors in this category to keep game logs currently being edited editable on the article, and then moved into a template upon their completion. jj137 ♠ Talk 20:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- As far as leaving the templates separate during the season, this is how we did it last year and I heard no complaints. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
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Thanks so much for the barnstar! STORMTRACKER 94 01:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Newsletter?
I have also been thinking about a Red Sox Project newsletter. I could coordinate it if you would like me to. Please give imput, I look forward to hearing from you. STORMTRACKER 94 15:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- That sounds great. I'll give you a few ideas I had and see what you think:
- I would prefer weekly over monthly. It doesn't have to be anything big or amazing each week, but some content people would be interested in.
- We could create a subpage (probably Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter) where people can place their name if they would like to receive the newsletter each week. Each individual newsletter would be in a subpage of that, I guess.
- Since it is the offseason, there isn't much to write about. We could just have a few "featured articles" (no, not the featured articles, but some interesting articles.)
- We could deliver it each Sunday. That will give us a week to write the first one, should we start today.
- We could place info about it at the main page, the talk page, and the yet-unused announcements board.
- Sounds like a great idea. I'll get it started right away. STORMTRACKER 94 17:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just created a basic template. You can see it here. STORMTRACKER 94 18:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- To tell you the truth, that's insanely awesome. I'm not very good with that sort of thing (the formatting, etc.) but I think that's a lot better style than some other WikiProject newsletter templates I've seen. Well done. jj137 ♠ Talk 20:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I guess this maens we should start writing now. STORMTRACKER 94 20:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- To tell you the truth, that's insanely awesome. I'm not very good with that sort of thing (the formatting, etc.) but I think that's a lot better style than some other WikiProject newsletter templates I've seen. Well done. jj137 ♠ Talk 20:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just created a basic template. You can see it here. STORMTRACKER 94 18:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- One more thing- How should we decide what the "featured" articles are? Should we vote or should the writers decide? Also, I'm going to get started on a free agent summary for the Red Sox as part of the newsletter. STORMTRACKER 94 20:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- You can come up with ones yourself. If people suggest articles, we should probably use those too. We probably wouldn't be able to actually write an article about an article (well, maybe, anything is possible), but we can list a few on the template (or something along those lines). jj137 ♠ Talk 20:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- You may want to fix the newsletter. The text below the header is invisible now. jj137 ♠ Talk 02:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Two other things I've thought of. We could have some sort of template to place on each newsletter page (or most of them) for easier navigation. Also, keep in mind this isn't being published until next Sunday, so be careful with past tense, time usage, etc. jj137 ♠ Talk 04:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- You can come up with ones yourself. If people suggest articles, we should probably use those too. We probably wouldn't be able to actually write an article about an article (well, maybe, anything is possible), but we can list a few on the template (or something along those lines). jj137 ♠ Talk 20:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- One more thing- How should we decide what the "featured" articles are? Should we vote or should the writers decide? Also, I'm going to get started on a free agent summary for the Red Sox as part of the newsletter. STORMTRACKER 94 20:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Red Sox Subpage
I love it. I saw Stormtrackers post about a newsletter (saw, not read). If you look at my user page, you'll see a bunch of MLB off season updates. Check em out! --HPJoker (talk) 19:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
WP:BOSOX Newsletter
I just finished the article on the free agent summary. Would you call the project news one done? It looks like it is done to me. STORMTRACKER 94 00:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- For now I think it is; if there is any more news that comes in the next six days, I'll add it. jj137 ♠ Talk 00:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Now only one article left. STORMTRACKER 94 00:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Hyperlinking words
I'm wondering how to link something on my user page to another section of a wikipedia page. I think it's something like when you asked me have I ever made this edit before. Thanx! --HPJoker (talk) 01:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think I know what you mean. For example, if you wanted to link to the Boston Red Sox article, History section. Boston Red Sox#History. Is that what you mean? jj137 ♠ Talk 02:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Or, I think this is what you mean. If you wanted to link to a revision you made, you would use it as an external link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jj137&diff=177346048&oldid=177102832 like this], which comes out as like this. See? jj137 ♠ Talk 02:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Number 1. Like Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter/12-16-07/Santana#December 11th, 2007? --HPJoker (talk) 03:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, although since the page is very short, it won't do you much good. jj137 ♠ Talk 03:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Also, as a side note, try to stay NPOV when writing these articles. I mean, I think we're all Sox fans, so there's nothing wrong with saying good things about them, etc. but try not to stay stuff like "I heard today" and stuff like that. Other than that, good job so far. jj137 ♠ Talk 03:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, although since the page is very short, it won't do you much good. jj137 ♠ Talk 03:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Number 1. Like Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter/12-16-07/Santana#December 11th, 2007? --HPJoker (talk) 03:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Better?
ALSO! I significantly expanded KRST, a station in New Mexico I used to live near by and now don't, but I still listen online. I feel proud. --HPJoker (talk) 04:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well done. It does make you feel sort of proud when you've done quite a bit to an article, doesn't it? jj137 ♠ Talk 21:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
There's mine. --HPJoker (talk) 02:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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Well, as I said, I was going to post the list of the players on the Mitchell Report. The Problem is..
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I was thinking about it too. I think it is a good idea, since three current or former Sox players were names. STORMTRACKER 94 20:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've begun work on it. Also, I've created a banner we can put on any newsletter pages. Just place {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter/Header}} on the top of any newsletter pages. jj137 ♠ Talk 01:55, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Look at my user page. It's 97% correct. It's all there. Also, was Mark McGwire on the list? If he isn't we might want to look over it. --HPJoker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
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Just a reminder: we still have to write a couple articles for the newsletter this week. Any ideas? jj137 ♠ 22:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- I really won't be very active this week (just see the template on my page...), but I think that some articles about the Mitchell Report aftermath (e.g. Roger Clements) and the usual project news would be good. STORMTRACKER 94 22:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Two words: Heck no. Ever since the Mitchell Report came out, not much has happened, and nothing on Santana. The Rockies I think are trying to get a new second baseman, Brian Giles after Kaz Matsui left the Rockies and joined the Astros. --HPJoker (talk) 22:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why through? We all knew someone was going to deny using steroids. What about this http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071220&content_id=2334589&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos? --HPJoker (talk) 22:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ok. I kind of doubt that the ball really got ate by his dog. First, he tries to keep it secret, then he says his dog ate it. Can I wikify a link to another webpage? --HPJoker (talk) 23:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- I kind of believe it. I mean, I thought he was probably just embarrassed by one of the probably most important artifacts in Red Sox history being destroyed by his dog. And sure, if you want to add a link to another page you can; if you want to add an in-text citation to the web address place <ref>(URL)</ref> and then place a section "References" at the bottom with {{Reflist}}. Or, of course, you could just do it in this form: [1]. jj137 ♠ 02:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ok. I kind of doubt that the ball really got ate by his dog. First, he tries to keep it secret, then he says his dog ate it. Can I wikify a link to another webpage? --HPJoker (talk) 23:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Johan Santana
I just talked to ESPN MLB writer Jerry Crasnick and he says the Santana deal might as well be dead. Bill Smith has not been shocked by any of the deals from the Red Sox or Yankees and will probably keep Santana for the beginning of 2008 and might look to trade him in July. --HPJoker (talk) 17:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- That's not good. Well, we have less two days until newsletter delivery, so we need to get to work. jj137 ♠ 21:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- CLEVELAND ROCKS! CLEVELAND ROCKS! CLEVELAND ROCKS! CLEVELAND ROCKS! OOPS! Sorry. My winter break has officially started! WOO!
- How do I get to them? --HPJoker (talk) 03:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter/12-23-07. jj137 ♠ 03:04, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- How do I get to them? --HPJoker (talk) 03:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Check em out! --HPJoker (talk) 03:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Seriously, that first one made me laugh a lot. I wonder what Stormtracker will think when he sees it. jj137 ♠ 03:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- How would I start a new article? --HPJoker (talk) 04:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Just go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston Red Sox/Newsletter/12-23-07/(name of your article here). Write it however you like and I can do the rest, I guess (adding it to newsletter template, etc.). jj137 ♠ 15:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- How would I start a new article? --HPJoker (talk) 04:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm Back!
Just to let you know, I am back on and am editing in full swing, so I will be able to deliver the newsletter tommorow. I apologize for not being active this week and hope to start writing soon! STORMTRACKER 94 16:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry
Sorry I couldn't write in the newsletter. There was nothing going on with the Sox. The ball and thats it. Thank you so much for writing all of the newsletter this week. I hope something happens (something non santana) with the Sox.
Merry Christmas! I'm not going on vacation. Are you or StormTracker going on vacation? --HPJoker (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Great job
Amazing job so far as a sysop, I'm seeing you all over RC Patrol. STORMTRACKER 94 23:06, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
ip vandal
Regarding your message [5], please look at my complaints about this particular user using multiple ips from the same domain and long-term vandalizing India-related articles[6][7][8]. Can anything pro-active be done to curb this, like sprotect the affected articles? I filed an RFPP but it got turned down.Ghanadar galpa (talk) 23:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this person seems to have a frequently changing IP address, and there is nothing we can do about that except block them. jj137 ♠ 23:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- In response to [9], is it possible to sprotect the affected articles for while? At least, until he gets bored and runs off? The primary affected articles are:
- Indophobia
- Pakistanphobia
- Kashmir Conflict
- Indian nationalism
- Pakistani Nationalism. Ghanadar galpa (talk) 23:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Ghanadar galpa (talk) 23:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Im not a vandal i will be looking for another editer who is not bias against Pakistan so i can get help from the vandal ganadar galpa P.S be fair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.177.81 (talk • contribs) at 10:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Stubs
Please see here [10] that "...two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it." So there is no need to delete one like here Carl-Olof Nylén. Thanks and kind regards Doma-w (talk) 23:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
User:Mark753's socks
I have a feeling that I will be doing this all night, so I need to ask if it is possible to protect the talk page of all his other socks? Rgoodermote 00:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll see what I can do. jj137 ♠ 00:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Glad to hear that, thanks. Rgoodermote 00:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I think I got them all (they are all located at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mark753, right?); some of them he hadn't done anything to, so I left them to be. jj137 ♠ 01:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have my doubts that the user will not use those user names, but as long as he is limited to using them it should make lives easier in the future and yeah to my knowledge all of the socks used by Mark should be there but a checkuser will probably be necessary some time in the future as a lot of his statements were threatening his usage of other accounts. By the way I will respond tomorrow afternoon as it is to late for me to stay online. Rgoodermote 01:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, if you see him using those accounts to troll any more just let me know and I'll take care of it. jj137 ♠ 01:15, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for helping out, Happy Holidays. Rgoodermote 20:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Speak of the devil I already tried WP:RFPP but they have done nothing User:Sockerwocker has used talk page to attack users earlier this day as seen here. Though it seems as the edit was not recent they seem to be reluctant to protect the page. But after last night there is a fairly good chance that the sock will be used again in an attempt to bait the attacked users into responding. The guy has not learned no matter what he does some one simply delete the edit and report it. Rgoodermote 21:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I protected the page. jj137 ♠ 21:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry if I have been a pest and seemingly attached to mark's case (need to slow down my response time). Rgoodermote
- It isn't a problem; this guy needs to quit trolling. Also, don't worry, I don't think your response time is too quick. If it is, then probably all of my response times are too quick as well. jj137 ♠ 21:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have my doubts he will ever stop trolling. Lol, I tend to feel really odd when I get the same person over and over again, well it comes with the territory. Good Night, I'm taking off for the night to enjoy my vacation. Happy Holidays. Rgoodermote 21:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry if I have been a pest and seemingly attached to mark's case (need to slow down my response time). Rgoodermote
- I protected the page. jj137 ♠ 21:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Speak of the devil I already tried WP:RFPP but they have done nothing User:Sockerwocker has used talk page to attack users earlier this day as seen here. Though it seems as the edit was not recent they seem to be reluctant to protect the page. But after last night there is a fairly good chance that the sock will be used again in an attempt to bait the attacked users into responding. The guy has not learned no matter what he does some one simply delete the edit and report it. Rgoodermote 21:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for helping out, Happy Holidays. Rgoodermote 20:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, if you see him using those accounts to troll any more just let me know and I'll take care of it. jj137 ♠ 01:15, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have my doubts that the user will not use those user names, but as long as he is limited to using them it should make lives easier in the future and yeah to my knowledge all of the socks used by Mark should be there but a checkuser will probably be necessary some time in the future as a lot of his statements were threatening his usage of other accounts. By the way I will respond tomorrow afternoon as it is to late for me to stay online. Rgoodermote 01:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I think I got them all (they are all located at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mark753, right?); some of them he hadn't done anything to, so I left them to be. jj137 ♠ 01:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Glad to hear that, thanks. Rgoodermote 00:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Please explain
Why you declined the page protection request for United States Department of Homeland Security. I just want to know so I do not make this mistake in this future.--Jeanenawhitney (talk) 01:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- There have only been ~3 vandal edits the entire month, not nearly enough to be protected. And don't worry, it isn't really a mistake, because it depends on the situation of how much vandalism. The point is, if there has been plenty of vandalism recently on an article, don't hesitate to report it. You won't get in trouble if it is declined. jj137 ♠ 01:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Petipa
Thank you for catching my error on Marius Petipa's ballet category. Robert Greer (talk) 02:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- What was it? (I can't seem to find it.) jj137 ♠ 02:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- On closer examination it wasn't an error, but you made a useful emendation to The Little Humpbacked Horse. Robert Greer (talk) 02:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I only deleted it because there was an expired prod tag on it. The original concern cited by Dlohcierekim was that it did not establish notability. jj137 ♠ 18:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- What more would you like to have seen in the Jonah House article ? rkmlai (talk) 18:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I only deleted it because there was an expired prod tag on it. The original concern cited by Dlohcierekim was that it did not establish notability. jj137 ♠ 18:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Since that tag I had added significant changes, references, and sources for the article. I also left two posts requesting feedback on the talk page. Of which I received no responses. rkmlai (talk) 18:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Would you undelete it please or give feedback as to what to add to this significant and notable organization to the Catholic Worker Movement, faith based nonviolent resistance, and peace movement. Thanks, rkmlai (talk) 18:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Since that tag I had added significant changes, references, and sources for the article. I also left two posts requesting feedback on the talk page. Of which I received no responses. rkmlai (talk) 18:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I only deleted it because there was an expired prod tag on it. The original concern cited by Dlohcierekim was that it did not establish notability. jj137 ♠ 18:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I undeleted it and the talk page, because you did expand the article and it shouldn't have been deleted. jj137 ♠ 18:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, rkmlai (talk) 18:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC) btw how do you have the ability to post here and on the other editor page simultaniously ? I find it way cool
- I undeleted it and the talk page, because you did expand the article and it shouldn't have been deleted. jj137 ♠ 18:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Fraudulent requests for page protection and vandalism to Bobby Farrell.
Please be advised that the page you protected is being vandalized by user [Jvhertum], who made the fraudulent request stating that someone tampered with the article, when in fact it is he/she who deleted a video-confession which clearly spells out the fact in question at the 2-minute mark of the video. To delete a verifiable fact from Wikipedia is considered vandalism. This is precisely what the user keeps doing, because he perhaps does wish to have this information revealed. Regardless what the motives are, such actions constitute fraud and vandalism. USRepublican (talk) 20:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Jverthum is not a vandal, and links to Youtube videos really can't count as reliable resources. Sorry. jj137 ♠ 21:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- The person whose page it is, admits himself who he was in that video. If that is not reliable, then neither are your remarks. USRepublican (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe he does, but Youtube still shouldn't be used as a primary reference. jj137 ♠ 21:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- USRepublican, do you speak Dutch? If not, then you are hardly in a position to judge what Farrell does or does not say in that YouTube video. People should not be labeled as male prostitutes on Wikipedia without some clear evidence for this, hence my request for page protection. I do not appreciate these silly accusations of vandalism. Jvhertum (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- In general, there's a good remedy for over-assumptions... it's called "get a life". USRepublican (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I have no idea what that means. Jj137, could you please look again at the article? The label "A video confession where Bobby Farrell admits to having worked as gay-for-pay" is anything but neutral. A more neutral label would be "Interview with Bobby Farrell". Alternatively, remove the link altogether as the YouTube clip surely has been placed there without permission from the TV station that broadcast it as is therefore a copyright violation. Best regards, Jvhertum (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- In general, there's a good remedy for over-assumptions... it's called "get a life". USRepublican (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- USRepublican, do you speak Dutch? If not, then you are hardly in a position to judge what Farrell does or does not say in that YouTube video. People should not be labeled as male prostitutes on Wikipedia without some clear evidence for this, hence my request for page protection. I do not appreciate these silly accusations of vandalism. Jvhertum (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe he does, but Youtube still shouldn't be used as a primary reference. jj137 ♠ 21:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- The person whose page it is, admits himself who he was in that video. If that is not reliable, then neither are your remarks. USRepublican (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2007 (UTC)