User talk:Diannaa/Archive 94

Latest comment: 12 days ago by Diannaa in topic Block quote question
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Ben_Sorensen

Hi Diannaa this article also failed copyright, and also seems to be put on the mainspace by a new user. I also seems to be an article whos draft was deleted previously. How do we deal with these issues so I don't bother you? Geraldine Aino (talk) 12:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

The deleted version was about an Augstralian broadcaster, so that article is unrelated to the one that was recently created. Regarding "failed copyright", I assume that you found substantial overlap with material elsewhere online? Could you please be more specific? I am not seeing it.
For general advice on what to do when you discover copyright issues, see Wikipedia:Text copyright violations 101. — Diannaa (talk) 19:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Diannaa but we can disregard. Another admin apparently found the deleted draft and removed (or moved) the article out of the mainspace. Thanks again for your assistance! Geraldine Aino (talk) 11:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Help needed at CopyPatrol

Hello copyright patrollers, we currently have 73 reports at CopyPatrol that need to be assessed. Assistance would be much appreciated! Pinging some recent contributors as shown on the Leaderboard: DanCherek, GreenLipstickLesbian, Ymblanter, Isochrone, L3X1, and JJMC89. Any assistance you can offer would be perfect, even if you only have time to do a handful of cases. Thanks in advance, — Diannaa (talk) 00:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

thumbsup: Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 02:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
A big thank you to those who have stepped up to help clear the cases! You are awesome. — Diannaa (talk) 13:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Can you clean, please?

Hi Diannaa I started off dealing with this user as a COI on the Mark Leonard Winter article, doing a quick morning review of notifications on my tablet, before seeing that they had added similar waffly prose to Lotta Crabtree. I reverted both changes and put a note on the talk page, but then realised that the changes probably need hiding, as there's a fair bit of copyvio in them. Can you please do what needs to be done? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

I found the copyvio on Lotta Crabtree but Mark Leonard Winter does not seem to be copyvio. — Diannaa (talk) 01:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. What about this? (source) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Got it. Thank you for the helpful link. — Diannaa (talk) 01:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
No worries. Thanks for that. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Need some help

Hi, you were listed as someone who knows about copyright. If you have some spare time, would you please help us over at Talk:Horsemanship of Ulysses S. Grant. I am having the weirdest conversation ever. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 21:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

The first example (the cadet's anecdote): Grant was born in 1822 and would have been 17 in 1839, the year that he and is fellow cadets were at West Point. So the fellow who made the remark would be long dead in 1956, the year the article appeared in Sports Illustrated. So where did the author of the article get the quote? I think it needs to come out, regardless of the copyright issue, unless it can be confirmed in some way that the fellow actually made these remarks. It should definitely not be in the article as though it was verifiable fact; at this point it's just an anecdote from Sports Illustrated, written 117 years after the fact.
Examples 2 and 3 are sourced to web pages of the US National Park Service, US Dept of the Interior, and are therefore are public domain, so that prose is okay to use, as long as attribution is given. This is typically done by including the template {{source-attribution}} as part of the citation. — Diannaa (talk) 22:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Copy vio and predatory

Hi Diannaa, This article section appears to be a copy violation, copied directly from this predatory source. Regards CV9933 (talk) 16:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 22:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)

Hi Diannaa. I don't believe we've crossed paths before, but I have a couple questions. You indefinitely semi-protected this article 12 years ago with no prior history of protection. The reason given says persistent vandalism. Okay, that's a valid protection reason, but indefinitely? I'm not an administrator so I only have so much input here, but isn't an immediate indef, you know, not protocol? Wikipedia is supposed to be a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, right? Isn't indefinite protection as the log's first entry a little overkill? I'm sorry if I smack of accusation, I don't mean to attack your actions, but I'm just trying to make things add up. mftp dan oops 23:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I am removing the protection. It was a long time ago and is likely no longer needed. Please visit RFPP if/when protection needs to be reinstated. — Diannaa (talk) 02:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Help me please!

Hi, I’m a Canadian recording artist in Alberta. I need your assistance regarding my rights as an artist being taken advantage of by my label and I am in a situation that is extremely unfair and violates important rights that I have. ZombieGirlOnline (talk) 17:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

It sounds like you need a lawyer. I am not a lawyer. — Diannaa (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Help needed at CopyPatrol (2)

Hello copyright patrollers, we currently have 125 reports at CopyPatrol that need to be assessed. Assistance would be much appreciated! Pinging some recent contributors as shown on the Leaderboard: DanCherek, GreenLipstickLesbian, Ymblanter, 1AmNobody24, L3X1, and JJMC89. Please stop by and help, even if you only have time to do a few cases. Thanks. — Diannaa (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Saw this but a little busy tonight, will have more time to clear out what's left by tomorrow (5/8) evening! DanCherek (talk) 00:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey Diannaa, this summer I'm really going to be working towards improving Copypatrol and the way we deal with copyright violations on Wikipedia, so you won't have to make these types of posts anymore. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for helping. Because you know I have to make time to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs, or I risk losing my Canadian citizenship! </joke> Good news @Moneytrees, improvements welcome — Diannaa (talk) 01:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
I still hope that with T334264 something like {{AfC information}} will be possible, since I'd check that more often than CopyPatrol itself. Nobody (talk) 05:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

New alert: We presently have 118 reports at CopyPatrol to assess. Any assistance appreciated. — Diannaa (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC) Pinging some patrollers: DanCherek, GreenLipstickLesbian, Ymblanter, ARandomName123, Moneytrees! — Diannaa (talk) 19:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the ping worked. Trying again, DanCherek, GreenLipstickLesbian, Ymblanter, ARandomName123, MoneytreesDiannaa (talk) 19:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Help

Hello, Diannaa! Could you please take a look at Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC, and tell us if there any copyright infringement issues? Please comment there. Thank you!--TheEagle107 (talk) 17:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think I'll have time to do this. — Diannaa (talk) 13:52, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
No problem, thanks anyway.TheEagle107 (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2024

Paul Morrissey

I work for the Paul Morrissey Estate and started editing Paul's Wikipedia page since it was filled with factual innacurracies. I wrote the text for the Roxy Cinema retrospective which you have since deleted. I was also in the process of adding citations for all the quotes. Can you please restore the page to how I had it? XmchaikenX (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in working on Wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.
The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Diannaa,
I work as a freelance writer and researcher. Nothing I added to Paul Morrissey's page is unveriafiable. Nothing was added to promote or advetise myself or Morrissey. The original entry on Wikipedia was inaccurate and I worked to fix that. You've reduced the page to a paragraph which does nothing for either Morrissey or Wikipedia. I'm glad to work together to properly annotate and ammend what I submitted. XmchaikenX (talk) 00:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
The reason I removed some of the material is because it has been previously published online. Don't copy anything from the Roxy Cinema website unless and until the content has been released under a compatible license and notification of same has been sent to the Volunteer Response team via email as per the instructions already given to you.
It's okay to add content to the article as long as you add citations at the same time and don't copy any prose that is not compatibly licensed. — Diannaa (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Understood. Sorry about all of this. I authored the text for the Roxy Cinema site and could have them take it down. Otherwise, I'm glad to amend the Morrissey entry, with full citations, and submit it to you for approval before publishing. Would it be possible to get a copy of what you removed so I can amend accordingly? XmchaikenX (talk) 13:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Taking down the webpage does not change its copyright status. Once it's published, it enjoys copyright protection.
The material I removed was the four paragraphs starting with the one that begins "For nearly a decade, Warhol and Morrissey functioned something like twin-brains" as well as from the prior paragraph starting with "...acting as the de facto publicity and film manager" and going to the end of that paragraph. There were also some smaller bits that I removed or paraphrased. — Diannaa (talk) 13:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Please don't use your own article at the Roxy Cinema website as one of your citations. That would be considered original research, which we don't allow. Your own recollections are not considered to be a good source either. — Diannaa (talk) 13:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Understood. I'll only pull from verifiable, outside sources and include citations for all quotes. Many of the quotes and sources are from old articles and interviews not currently online. Is that acceptable? XmchaikenX (talk) 13:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
What do you mean by interviews? Are they published somewhere? If so, they are ok to use. If unpublished, we can't use them.
Old newspaper or magazine articles are ok to use. Please give as much detail as possible (author name, name of the publication, publication date, etc). Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources for full details. — Diannaa (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes, published interviews from old newspapers and journals not found online. Ok, thanks for the citing link. Got it. XmchaikenX (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Nikolayevsk incident

User talk:Fysjsj2517

Hello, thank you for reviewing the edit, but your claim is not true. There was no copyright violation in the sentence you removed.

I had a learning disorder as a child, so my writing skills can be very awkward. I think you may have mistaken awkward writing for plagiarism.

We also checked for plagiarism using Grammarly, which is included in 'Category:Plagiarism detectors', cited from Wikipedia:Plagiarism.

We used the “Plagiarism Checker by Grammarly” to check for plagiarism. [[1]] The plagiarism check results read “We didn't find any plagiarism, but we found 5 writing issues.”, “No plagiarism found”. In other words, it's not plagiarized. However, it only showed that there were issues with “Spelling” and “Conciseness”. In other words, I did write my sentences awkwardly. But it's not plagiarism, according to the check.

Do you have any reason to believe I've violated copyright? Fysjsj2517 (talk) 09:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

You can view the source article here. Your plagiarism tool has given you an inaccurate result. Here is a comparison between the source document and your addition. Overlapping content is shown in bold:

Source article:

A clash between Japanese troops and Russian, Chinese, and Korean guerillas under the anarchist Iakov Ivanovich Triapitsyn in Nikolayevsk-on-Amur in March 1920 also affected Ōi’s decision. Yet according to the Bolshevik Petr Mikhailovich Nikiforov, who controlled the economic sector of the coalitional Vladivostok government, the Japanese attack was triggered by the opponents of the buffer state in Vladivostok. Moisei Gubel΄man and Maria Mikhailovna Sakh΄ianova, a Buryat Bolshevik, initiated the reestablishment of the Vladivostok Soviet on April 3, 1920, despite a recent Japanese declaration not to permit Soviet rule. Furthermore, the Japanese command had orders from Tokyo to put an end to the Korean guerilla movement and during the attack arrested numerous Korean politicians and fighters.

Your addition:

The clash between Japanese troops and Russian, Chinese, and Korean guerrillas under Iakov Ivanovich Triapitsyn at Nikolayevsk-on-Amur in March 1920 influenced General Ōi Shigemoto's decision. However, according to Bolshevik Petr Mikhailovich Nikiforov, who controlled the economic sector of the coalition government in Vladivostok, the Japanese attack was prompted by forces opposed to the buffer state in Vladivostok. Moisei Gubel΄man and Maria Mikhailovna Sakh΄ianova, a Buryat Bolshevik, attempted to restore the Vladivostok Soviet on April 3, 1920. The Japanese command also received orders from Tokyo to put an end to the Korean guerrilla movement.

Diannaa (talk) 12:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I acknowledge that I have violated copyright law, and I apologize to you if I have offended you. I've given it a lot of thought and rewritten the article. Fysjsj2517 (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Richard Wyatt Jr. Wikipedia Page

Good afternoon Diannaa,

Thank you so much for your message. The prose below is straight from Richard Wyatt Jr.'s BIO page on his website. Is there a way to reinstate this copyrighted content onto his Wikipedia page?

[REDACTED COPYRIGHT MATERAIL]

HollywoodJazz (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
@HollywoodJazz (talk page watcher) Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyright materials. This was explicitly in the message you were left, so you have the answer already.
Far better to use your own words to summarise the essence of what is said in reliable secondary sources about Wyatt. The prose in the first paragraph is a paean of praise (advertorial) and the second paragraph is a list of stuff. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
@Diannaa Please see @User talk:HollywoodJazz#May 2024 where an administrator well versed in breach of copyright behaviour may agree with the 0.95 probability of this editor receiving sanctions. I find their behaviour to be naive at best. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

New category and template for Unattributed translations

Hi, Diannaa. This is just a heads up that we now have a category and an article maintenance template for unattributed translations. The template is {{unattributed translation}}, and it categorizes articles into Category:Wikipedia articles with possible unattributed translations. As the template is new, there are only two articles in it, and as those two articles and other articles are added and fixed, the category is likely be empty much of the time, at least until it catches on. Am thinking of expanding the template to accept lang code or lang name, which would allow subcategorization by language name, as it may be easier for a bilingual editor to add RIA if the original creator editor does not. Please feel free to add enhancement requests or other comments on the template talk page. (Related template {{uw-translation}} is designed for user talk pages and has been around forever.) Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 11:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

May music

 
story · music · places

Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Dianna

Hi @Diannaa how are you I would like to have a talk with you if you Can help to create notable topic about Translator and journalist , you can see the news on google + here in English and has a multiple coverage .

Thanks for your time Editorinusa (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I don't have time to help with this project. — Diannaa (talk) 16:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, can you please link or explain to me how to add material that is properly cited, to a wikipedia page without breaking the copyright rules? I thought that as long as there is proper attribution (via citation) to the source material, that was sufficient to avoid falling under copyright. Is there a limit to which materials we can use? I was working under thr assumption that statements must reflect source material. ChaoticTexan (talk) 21:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

For most documents and websites, it's not okay to include passages that are copied directly from your sources. To do so is a violation of our copyright policy. You can determine the copyright status of documents by examining them. For example this paper is marked as "© Meir Litvak 2009", so copyright law and our copyright policy both say we're not allowed to copy from that.
Some sources are released under a compatible license or are in the public domain. We have special templates that we use to indicate this. The best place to start learning about copyright and how it applies to Wikipedia editing is Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright. — Diannaa (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Leon Russell edit and threat of being blocked

Hello - I haven't copied any text from the website you listed as a copyrighted source. You have reverted and blocked the edits you claim I copied - please provide proof that I edited the copy as you claim. The copy you let as proof existed before I started edited the entry. Thank you! WmArbaugh (talk) 13:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Here is the diff where I discovered the matching text. "Rock legend Jerry Lee Lewis heard him play and hired him as opening act and intermission pianist for his tour until he discovered how young he was. Not all the states Lewis played in were dry." You can review it using Earwig's tool. — Diannaa (talk) 13:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the help and for all you do! WmArbaugh (talk) 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

2024 in the Maldives

Hello! I have been trying to fix and remove what suspiciously looks like items copied from a newspaper but editors have continued to disregard and even restore such poorly-written content. Although Earwig tells me it is only a 16% copypaste, I have noticed that most of the entries have too many similar wordings with a newspaper headline or the introduction to a newspaper article. I have already flagged the article for lots of reasons but I appreciate if you could provide further advice on what to do. Thanks! Borgenland (talk) 17:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Help needed at CopyPatrol (3)

Hello copyright patrollers, we currently have 113 reports at CopyPatrol that need to be assessed. Assistance would be much appreciated! Pinging some recent contributors as shown on the Leaderboard: DanCherek, Moneytrees, Ymblanter, ARandomName123, as well as GreenLipstickLesbian, Shaws username, and L3X1. Please stop by and help, even if you only have time to do a few cases. Thanks. — Diannaa (talk) 11:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

User:Stockbroker369

Hi Diannaa; you have twice earlier this year messaged Stockbroker369 on their talk page about copyright; i've just come across some more questionable material but, as i'm not at all sure about copyright, it would be wonderful if you or a stalker could just check my work on L'Île Coco and be sure i removed the right stuff. Thank you. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 15:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Grrateful for comments and I live hte rin aeuritius an gladlto texplain what I document with facts, notbased on conjectur, frankly, from abroade. Just ask and I will fill in the gaps Humbly yours.. Stockbroker369 (talk) 16:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Quotations need citations. Please add your citation at the same time you add a quote, and whenever you add content of any kind actually. — Diannaa (talk) 17:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for the typos. I am contributing to my country and its culture and you are not sure whether copyright is involved? Stockbroker369 (talk) 17:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Short quotations are allowed. It's not a violation of our copyright policy to include them. Please don't add quotations, or anything else either, without a supporting citation. — Diannaa (talk) 18:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Million Dollar Baby

Hi. I hope this version is better. Yours. Tkaras1 (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to violate copyright, but it's unintelligible, so I am removing it. — Diannaa (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Can you explain so I can address your concerns? Tkaras1 (talk) 17:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
  • "due to Eastwood's having appeared in the U.S. House of Representatives seeking reforms to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) which some claimed ." Some claimed what? What did they claim?
  • "The main change Eastwood, who had been a defendant in an ADA lawsuit, in which he had largely prevailed, sought was to give defendants in such cases notice of alleged violations and then 90 days to comply." Surely there's a way to convert this to plain English? Perhaps by not trying to present two completely unrelated ideas in the same sentence? And why would they be asked to comply if the violations were only alleged? — Diannaa (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    "Alleged" by plaintiffs and their counsel which begins the legal process.
    I can submit you my next draft here rather than edit the article again if that's preferable.
    Yours. Tkaras1 (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    How about "Some disability rights activists claimed Eastwood was trying to weaken the ADA due to his appearance before the House Judiciary Committee seeking reforms to give businesses 90 days to comply with proven violations and to discourage frivolous complaints which resulted in heavy legal fees and exorbitant damages, often to small businesses."
    Tkaras1 (talk) 18:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    The activists do not actually claim that Eastwood is attempting to weaken the ADA, It's the author of the Chicago Times article that said that. So no, I don't think you should add that. — Diannaa (talk) 18:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    By the way, the content you are trying to add is already included in the article, which says, "The Chicago Tribune reported that protests against the film by disability activists occurred in Chicago, Berkeley, and other cities, and that Clint Eastwood had lobbied for weakening provisions of the Americans with Disabilities Act." — Diannaa (talk) 18:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    The wording is inaccurate, and, IMHO, heavily misleading. Eastwood's actual argument and motivation should be clear. Maybe I should check the Eastwood page and see what is there. Tkaras1 (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

On your removal of my information in article ‘Reichstag fire decree’

Hello, Diana. I can see that you recently removed a new tab I added in ‘Reichstag fire decree’. You reasoned this by saying that sources were not provided. I did, in fact, provide sources in the ‘external links’. If you want to change the newly added tab, feel free, but please do not remove the entire tab. I am a fair Wikipedia contributor and not a vandal. My information was not biased, but factual. I provide sources for any big edit I do (although I don’t have many big edits). I see you have waaaay more edits than me, but do not dismiss me as some vandal. Please do not remove the tab. Tab’s name: ‘The removed articles’. If you feel that the name could be better, change it, but please do not remove it. Thank you, Diana. -MicholsUsed MicholIsUsed (talk) 04:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @MicholIsUsed:, I have removed your content again, and explained my reasoning at User talk:MicholIsUsed#Verifiability requirement for Wikipedia article content. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Removal of chef's comments from Hell's Kitchen (Season 17): All Stars

Hello, Diana. I saw that you've removed the chef's elimination quotes from Hell's Kitchen: All Stars (Season 17), citing "unsourced quotations". I mean, was that necessary? The page has the chef's quotes from Season 1 through 16. Why can't I add them from Season 17 onward to Season 22? And what can I do to make them sourced so that I CAN post them? I don't think it's fair to me. I don't get it. What can I do to fix this problem? Christopher K. Howell (talk) 14:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

If all the other seasons have quotes I think they should come out too, especially if they are unsourced. — Diannaa (talk) 23:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Well, if it helps, the source is from the Hell's Kitchen Wiki page. There are also the uncensored episodes on YouTube. So, yes, they do have quotes from the chefs. If it does, can I reverse the changes you've made without getting any strikes or warnings? Christopher K. Howell (talk) 11:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Fandom is not considered to be a reliable source; it's a wiki. These quotes are not something I would edit war over. — Diannaa (talk) 12:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
So I can't do anything? What can I do? What are reliable sources? Christopher K. Howell (talk) 12:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
You could start a discussion on the talk page and see if you can get consensus to add them back. — Diannaa (talk) 12:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
How? Christopher K. Howell (talk) 12:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
  1. Go to Talk:Hell's Kitchen (American TV series) season 17
  2. Open a new section
  3. Discuss the content you want to add. Relevant policy includes Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Writing_about_fiction. Frankly, to me all those episode summaries look ridiculously long even without the comments from eliminated contestants.
Valereee (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Okay. I did that. What happens next? Christopher K. Howell (talk) 14:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I see this is your first time posting to an article talk page. Normally discussion now takes place there. Valereee (talk) 16:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Task complete. Thank you for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 15:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Kym Worthy

Copyvio ([2])? Tkaras1 (talk) 00:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Looks like reverse copying from Wikipedia – the TED webpage looks like it was created in September 2018 (based on the date of the TED talk and the Internet Archive copies), while some of the matching text was already in the Wikipedia article back when it was created in 2008, and the rest was added throughout the years and was pretty much all present by this 2016 revision. DanCherek (talk) 03:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Diannaa, about your copyright message, good to know more about wikipedia's policy on copyrights. However, because that section of my edit's history has been erased, I'm unable to see and thus fully understand where my actual mistakes were. Is there any way you can undo that? Why did the history have to be erased, my edit had already been revised. I would also assume there are some grey areas in what is a copyright and what isn't.Pride2bme (talk) 06:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

There was some content that matched material that was a match for your source here. The revisions containing the copyright material were hidden from view under under criterion RD1 of the revision deletion policy, and that's why you can't access them any more. The content was "On an episode of Dateline NBC..." down to the end of the paragraph. There's no grey areas in copyright. The source webpage is marked at the bottom as "© 2024 Christianity Today... All rights reserved." — Diannaa (talk) 12:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I can't even recall sourcing the exact wordings from that particular paragraph but I'm very sure I didn't copy-paste anyway. So I'm still not able to learn what exact mistakes I made from a deleted example. I do think there is a difficult balance one has to tread between being faithful to a source and conveying it on one's own words. Yet I can imagine some editors may delete a contribution because they don't view it as faithful to a source. And putting things in one's own words can be susceptible to bias accusations. So it can feel like a double bind. There are also facts and sources that claim to be "fact." Also confusingly are experts and expert opinions. Does an expert's opinion constitute as fact? I'm not always sure. Are these violations always subject to speedy deletions? Pride2bme (talk) 13:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm also confused on your explanation about there not being a grey area, citing "The source webpage is marked at the bottom as "© 2024 Christianity Today... All rights reserved." Copyrighted material is relatively easy to spot and assume, but is the issue we're not supposed to source from copyrighted material at all or my source copied the copywritten material too verbatim? The rules I have read so far indicate the latter so I'm confused why the former was given as your reasoning. Pride2bme (talk) 13:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I am going to start with a comparison of the source document with what you added. Overlapping material is in bold.

Source says:

On an episode of Dateline NBC this past June, she told reporters she thought her daughter's actions in Afghanistan had blatantly broken the edict Taliban officials handed down four months before Heather arrived in the volatile land. The rule stated that any non-Muslim found trying to convert Muslims would be killed. Oddy also alleged her daughter and the rest of the Shelter team endangered the lives of Afghans by breaking a similar rule that called for the death penalty for anyone who converted from Islam to another religion.

you added this:

On an episode of Dateline NBC, she told reporters her daughter's actions in Afghanistan had blatantly broken a Taliban edict. The rule stated that any non-Muslim trying to convert Muslims would be killed. Oddy also stated her daughter and the rest of the team endangered the lives of Afghans by breaking a similar rule that called for the death penalty for anyone who converted from Islam to another religion.

To answer your questions, you should be able to see that your edit was not balanced between putting things in your own words and staying faithful to the source; the only difference between the source and your addition is you left some words out and changed one word. That's a clear violation of our copyright policy.

Avoiding bias is a separate issue. Here, you were trying to convey the mother's comments an interviewer from NBC. Since it's the mother's statement or opinion, there's no reason for anyone to accuse you of bias. I do notice though that this particular paragraph was only part of a larger edit that someone else removed for reasons other than copyvio, as you can see by their edit summaries: "Unsourced or poorly sourced material, most of which is crammed into the lead against WP policy (see WP:LEAD for example"; their second edit summary was "Undid revision 1227847965 by Pride2bme (talk) - lede is ridiculously long, 1023 words, even Donald Trump lead has only 606 words. lead is overly focused on negatives also". I suggest you discuss with them regarding these aspects.

To answer your final question which you posted while I was preparing this reply, it looks like something I said was not clear; of course it is okay to use copyright material as your sources. We really couldn't write any content otherwise. Almost everything you find online, in books, in magazines, and in newspapers is copyright, and cannot be copied here; it's against the copyright policy of this website to do so. — Diannaa (talk) 14:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Wow, I still don't remember writing it to that extent but yeah I see the overlap now. Thanks for the explanation. I also frustratingly tried to explain the to the other editors in the talk that I was not responsible of the other "WP:lead" edit that was referred to and one of them sort of corrected that. Pride2bme (talk) 14:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Ode to Billie Joe

You may want to rev del. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Susan Lewis

Why have you removed my edit about casting from this page. You removed a source about casting, and the remainder that you subsequently left makes no sense at all. The Hollywood reporter was referenced and you've removed sources and left prose that make no sense in context now 2A01:4B00:8404:100:19AB:7013:2E3C:2EFA (talk) 11:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

The content I removed was a match for the source https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Lewis&action=history and thus was a violation of our copyright policy. — Diannaa (talk) 13:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

It wasn't a match for the source. The introducing sentence was altered and the rest is quoted from the source material using quotation marks. Perhaps actually check what you are claiming to be a match before blindly removing sourced content included in good faith, and subsequently leaving an article unsourced with an entire remaining section that makes absolutely no sense now. Ridiculous editing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4B00:8404:100:19AB:7013:2E3C:2EFA (talkcontribs)

Here is a side-by-side comparison. Overlapping material is in bold.
Your addition:

According to show creator John Wells and casting director John Frank Levey, actress Sherry Stringfield’s casting was partially due to a serendipitous encounter with Levey and Wells on an aeroplane.

Source says:

Stringfield's casting was partially due to a serendipitous encounter with Levey and Wells on an airplane."

Diannaa (talk) 13:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Exactly, not a direct copy at all, and instead of putting speech marks around serendipitous encounter, you remove an entire sourced sentence and butcher the prose. Try not to be so trigger happy and pedantic with your editing perhaps. People like you deter people from contributing. Disgraceful— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4B00:8404:100:19AB:7013:2E3C:2EFA (talkcontribs)

Going around adding quotation marks to every copyvio is not a very practical solution to our copyright problems (in fact people would think I was incompetent if I did that!), and does not fit in well at all with our non-free content rules and copyright policy. — Diannaa (talk) 22:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
It was not a serendipitous encounter; it was reported at CopyPatrol, where I am a regular participant. — Diannaa (talk) 22:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools

Hi Dianna - seems this page was prematurely moved...who do we report these to? Geraldine Aino (talk) 13:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

You could start by discussing the matter with the person who moved the page. — Diannaa (talk) 13:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Is this Australian source copyrighted in America? It was written anonymously, and published in 1945. I am not sure if URAA applies because it would have entered the Public Domain in Australia the day that the URAA act went into effect. Thank you for your help. Scorpions1325 (talk) 14:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

See the Commons:Hirtle chart. Which then refers us to the Wikipedia:Non-US copyrights. Answering the 5 questions, the item looks to me like it is PD in both the source country and the US. — Diannaa (talk) 21:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Username

hi! could you please change my username? Rowan hunter little plante (talk) 16:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Sorry I don't know how to do that. Please visit Wikipedia:Changing usernameDiannaa (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Help: account issue

Hi, I just start to edit Wikipedia recently and been editing in both Vietnamese and English. However, it seems that my lack of understanding causes my Vietnamese account to be banned forever with just a few edit, while my English account is still going well. I've been trying to contact those who banned me for over a week but it seems like I couldn't reach any of the administrator. The contribution I made to Wikipedia is also my what I wanted to share on my portfolio. I really don't know what to do, please help. Chau Pham (Phạm Bảo Châu) (talk) 02:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't help with events that happened on a different Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 10:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Rostrevor College was copy/paste tagged in November 2020, FYI. Tkaras1 (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

The person who tagged it lists this webpage in their edit summary; that page is inaccessible to me. Earwig's tool finds nothing. — Diannaa (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Block quote question

Hi Diannaa. Do you think it would OK to take a block quote from this work (the original dates to 1890, but the E-book only to 2009) to use in James Wilson (Archdeacon of Manchester)#Career? The text was originally added as part of citation using the |quote= parameter, but I'm wondering whether it might be better just to add it to the body of the article itself. I think the original text should be PD, while the E-book doesn't really transform the original in a way that would make it a derivative work per se. Perhaps the original might even be a candidate for Wikisource? -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Block quotes are fine, even if the source work is not PD. Does it add to the understanding of the subject of our article? That's a question you could ask yourself — Diannaa (talk) 03:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
My apologies Diannaa for muddying up the wording of my question. I was mainly interested in whether the source work would be PD and therefore OK for WikiSource. I don't know why I made the block quote stuff the focus of my question. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:52, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
The content does not appear to have been altered or edited, so I think it's okay to add it to Wikisporce. — Diannaa (talk) 13:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)