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DYK for Balanus perforatus

Another contribution to the DYK project, thanks Victuallers (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Abarenicola pacifica

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 01:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Detritus ...

Hi -- I changed your sea cucumber hook a bit when I promoted it to prep 2, because thought the word "detritus" would add interest. I am impressed with your list of biology articles -- I look forward to reading more of your articles. Sharktopus ^talk 03:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. That's fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for the review. I will be looking at it shortly.

--Thebirdlover (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes I know I don't edit many articles. I never find anything to revert and it is easier for me to patroll the new users list and give out warnings for vandalising than to think of new facts to write.

--Thebirdlover (talk) 13:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Synaptula lamperti

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Emerita analoga

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:02, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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I see a double hook with your recent bivalves. Question.

Am I mistaken, or is this indirectly suggesting a communital association between Phaxas pellucidus and Abra alba? I'm not sure how to phrase a hooky enough double hook with just that, though. Any ideas? :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 09:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't consider either of these articles particularly noteworthy and do not think they deserve a double hook. I have actually written them to fill in gaps for a more noteworthy article on a tubeworm (Lagis koreni) which I am currently writing and from which the 2 articles you mention would have have been linked with red wikilinks. I will probably finish it later today. The worm concerned crafts its tube like a mosaic with grains of sand and fragments of shell, though how it does it with the bristles and spines at its disposal I can't imagine. The brittle star Ophiura ophiura will be next! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:42, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to go for it, though, if you have no objections ;) I'm becoming a hooker! Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Lagis koreni now exists and is a better article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Booyah! Make that TRIPLE HOOK!! :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations are in order, as you have become one of the select band of Wikipedians who have created or expanded twenty-five or more articles appearing in the "Did you know?" section of the Main page. You have put many sea creatures, invertebrates, and insects on the map, not to mention Ksar es-Seghir. Moonraker (talk) 02:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Holothuria forskali

Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Petrolisthes eriomerus

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ophiura ophiura

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lagis koreni

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:03, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Phaxas pellucidus

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Abra alba

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Brackets in binomial authorities

Please see [1] and [2]. Cheers, mgiganteus1 (talk) 22:33, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Its difficult and I get it wrong sometimes. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:12, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Automatic taxoboxes

Hi I saw your questions on Stemonitis's talk page. I was watching the page for questions I had for him. However I dont like talking on other peoples pages so am adding a message for you here. I am a member of the Wikipedia:Taxobox_task_force and can offer you some advice on this. The automatic taxoboxes follow a basic template and sometimes they do their job often they don't. If the group you are looking at is not adequately displayed by the auto taxobox then remove it and make your own. More important to be accurate and give good useful information. Please note that only WP:Paleo have opted for general usage of auto taxoboxes. Cheers, Faendalimas ^talk 18:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I started working on a non-automatic taxobox for Corallinaceae but did not find it at all easy and have abandoned the idea. I normally make a taxobox by copying an existing one and adjusting it but all the taxoboxes for algae that I looked at were automatic and I don't know how to deal with the fossil range anyway. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

If while editing the article you hit ctrl+click on the auto-taxobox template you will get the documentation for it. If you go to Wikipedia:Taxobox_task_force you will find the other types of taxoboxes and all their documentation. If you like show me the txonomy you want to show and I can help you. I am a vertebrate taxonomist so dont know off the top of my head the correct taxonomy for that group. Cheers. Faendalimas ^talk 19:24, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I am working on a draft new taxobox in my user pages and will replace the automatic one for the article in question when I have worked it out tomorrow.

Here is another question on a completely different topic. Why does Caulerpa taxifolia display under "T" instead of "C" in "Category:Caulerpaceae" ? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Because if you look at the code for the page it has [[Category:Caulerpaceae|taxifolia]] the pipe and taxifolia forces it to list by its species name. If you want it to list under the genus name remove the |taxifolia from the statement. Cheers, Faendalimas ^talk 20:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I have replaced the taxobox for Corallinaceae and the basic process of taxobox creation is clearer to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:15, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cymodocea nodosa

Hello! Your submission of Cymodocea nodosa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

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ARKive

Thank you for your contribution to the ARKive project, helping to raise awareness of the plight of endangered species. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

...but please note that {{ARKive}} requires two parameters, thus: {{ARKive|fire-corals|millepora-spp}} which can be lifted straight from the equivalent URL on their website. ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 16:33, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I've got that wrong on each of the ones I have done, I'm afraid. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Cymodocea nodosa

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Deinacrida rugosa

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Haematoxylum brasiletto

Courcelles 08:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Caulerpa racemosa

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Paracentrotus lividus

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Luidia ciliaris

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ophiocomina nigra

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sphaerechinus granularis

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Metridium senile

Hello! Your submission of Metridium senile at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Odie5533 (talk) 18:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

August Wikification Drive barnstars

		The WikiProject Wikify Badge
		This Wikification badge is given to Cwmhiraeth for their eighth-place appearance on the leaderboard in the August 2011 Wikification drive. Congratulations! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This Working Wikipedian's Barnstar is also given to Cwmhiraeth for completing 33 articles in the August 2011 Wikification drive. Thanks, and keep up the great work! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Covering Hermit!

We be double hooked! ;) Rcej (Robert) – talk 07:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Adamsia palliata

Hello Cwmhiraeth! Thanks for your nice note. I did not realize just how inaccurate that artist's sculpture is! I would be inclined to remove the image from the article altogether, but I see you have submitted the article for DYK and so you may feel the image is OK for now. As for your questions, I am more of a gastropod expert than a hermit crab expert and I don't know much about sea anemones, but yes, hermit crabs will move to a newer larger shell as soon as they feel cramped in their old shell, assuming they can find a suitable new shell. They won't willingly stay in one that is too small for them because it puts them at risk from certain predators. However I do see in the article on another similar species of anemone that the anemone supposedly extends the opening of the gastropod shell using chitin to enable the crab to occupy it for a longer time, if that is correct; after all, it's taken from a very old source...

Most hermit crabs spend a few minutes checking out a new shell and "trying it on" before they commit to a new one. I had previously read that in the case of hermit crabs that have these symbiotic anemones, the crab will sometimes actively transfer the anemone from the old shell to the new shell, which is pretty amazing. Via google I found a pdf from 1968 about anemone transfer, and it seems to say that sometimes the anemone itself will make the transfer by climbing down the old shell and onto the new one! I used .. hermit crab transfer sea anemone .. for my google search, and that worked pretty well, I see there is more info out there if you want to look. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 20:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

The pdf file you found is most interesting. I expect something similar occurs in Adamsia palliata but has not been so well documented. Invertebrates live such amazingly complex lives!

I did not propose the article for DYK, - someone else did. I will remove the offending image after DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree, invertebrates are really amazing and so many species have hardly been studied at all! That's why I do mollusk research. I wish I knew more about hermit crabs, they are very interesting, and I am sure their commensal anemones are just as fascinating! I am glad this will be a DYK because people need to be encouraged to understand that invertebrates are really fascinating and complex. We have a researcher at AMNH who studies Arctic anemones, but I have not had the chance to talk to her about it. Where I go once a year (Nevis) they have the large land hermit crabs, and they carry sea snail shells up the mountain fairly high up, and yet they have to go all the way back to the beach once a year to spawn, more amazing stuff. Invertzoo (talk) 21:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sagartia troglodytes

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Adamsia palliata

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pagurus prideaux

Orlady (talk) 16:04, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Metridium senile

Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive update GOCE September 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation We have had 55 people sign up for this drive so far, and 31 have participated. If you have signed up but have not yet copy edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! It's not too late to join the drive if you have not already done so. Another great way to help out is to watch-list the Coordinators talk page and participate in the ongoing development of the Guild. Progress report So far, we have reduced the backlog by 75 articles, or about 19% of our goal. We have also cleared January 2010 off of the queue and are close to clearing off February and March. If each participant were to copy edit two articles from February and March 2010, they would be completely eliminated from the queue. Rollover words Several concerns have been brought up this drive about the usage of rollover words. Rollover words only count if they're from the previous drive. For example, if you received 1,000 rollover words in March and didn't participate in May, your rollover words return to zero. This is to encourage participation in multiple consecutive drives. Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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DYK for Codium tomentosum

Orlady (talk) 10:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

October 2011 Wikification drive

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Pat Rummerfield

Hi, I noticed that you have edited the above as part of the copyediting drive. I hope you don't mind me offering some words of constructive appraisal of your effort.

I still find the existence of significant problems with its tone of the article, which reads like an autobiography: in particular, not only is he constantly referred to as 'Pat' instead of 'Rummerfield', there are several instances of editorialising. Overall, I would say the article as it stands fails WP:NPOV. A phrase such as and has achieved what healthy individuals often struggle to do. strikes me as being overly subjective for a biography. It would appear from reading the sources that they hail him as somewhat miraculous, thus I feel such editorialising may have been 'imported. These instances may be better as part of a quote where possible. The article's sources seem to bear out much of the subject's story, yet many paragraphs are undercited with inline citations. I would also comment that the linking of words such as 'orphanage' 'bicycle' and 'basketball' seem to be overzealous. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree with most of what you say, particularly the phrase you quote which I had considered removing but in fact left alone. His achievements were impressive however and he does seem to be a rather remarkable man. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

• Good. I'm sure you know what we usually do is either let the facts speak for themselves or cite somebody who actually says it. At present, we have neither. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 06:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I have done a bit more to the article and when I come to consider the matter, it does include rather a lot of hype. I was treating copyediting as the correction of grammar, syntax, spelling etc. rather than the weeding out of unencyclopedic material. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Comprendido. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 06:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I bloviated on purpose...

In case you were wondering and/or peeved ;) Its at 1568 prose now. Rcej (Robert) – talk 07:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

That's OK. I had found that information but was writing the article mostly to remove one of the redlinks on my new, more important article, Asexual reproduction in starfish. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Laminaria hyperborea

Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

September barnstar

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Cwmhiraeth for copy editing articles totalling over 12,000 words during the GOCE September copy edit drive. Your contributions are greatly appreciated! Dianna (talk) 05:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Linckia multifora

Orlady (talk) 12:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify's October Newsletter

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GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive report GOCE September 2011 Backlog elimination drive progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report. Participation There were 58 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 42 participated. This is a slight increase from the July 2011 drive participation, where 39 out of 50 people that signed up participated. Thank you to everyone! Progress report During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 146 articles, or by about 4%. Overall we did well, especially considering the exceptionally large number of articles that were tagged during September. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 4854 articles, or by about 58%. If we keep up our current rate of copy editing, the backlog should be reduced by 65–70% by the end of this year. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. Barnstars will be handed out this week. Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in November, and we hope to see you there! Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Dear, Cwmhiraeth Your outstanding diligence will inspire new Wikipedians. Hanberke (talk) 08:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Hanberke. I do my best! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Coscinasterias tenuispina

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Marrus orthocanna

Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Peachia quinquecapitata

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey

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Happy Halloween!

Wilhelmina Will has given you some caramel and a candy apple! Caramel and candy-coated apples are fun Halloween treats, and promote WikiLove on Halloween. Hopefully these have made your Halloween (and the proceeding days) much sweeter. Happy Halloween! If Trick-or-treaters come your way, add {{subst:Halloween apples}} to their talkpage with a spoooooky message!

Cheers! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 05:02, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Happy Halloween to you too! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Corculum cardissa

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Stauroteuthis syrtensis

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Briefly looked at your latest article after stumbling upon it at Special:NewPages, what fantastic work you do - the world is indebted to your knowledge and contributions. JoshuaWalker | Talk to Me 10:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, thank you!

The number of species in the animal kingdom is enormous and the scope for articles on them is unending.... Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

A tool for you!

Hi Cwmhiraeth! I see that you are an copyeditor, and thought that you might appreciate some help with finding and eliminating multiple links (or wikification) from the article on which you are working.

I case you're not aware, all you need to do is install the following script:

importScript('User:Ucucha/duplinks.js');

onto Special:MyPage/skin.js, and you'll find a clickable link called "Highlight duplicate links" in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). It can be found both in normal view mode and edit mode. Press on it, and away you go! Have fun! --Sp33dyphil © • © 09:25, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I did what you suggested but what I seem to have got is the addition to my toolbox of "Permanent link" which is not what you had in mind I think. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:21, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Today the "Highlight duplicate links" tool does seem to have appeared. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

October Wikification drive

		The Iron Wikification Barnstar
		This barnstar is given to Cwmhiraeth for wikifying 21 articles. Thanks for your work -- Nolelover Talk·Contribs 03:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Urticina lofotensis

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Serpula vermicularis

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 backlog elimination drive update Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 46 people sign up for this drive so far, and 28 have copy edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't joined, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We are making great progress in our goal of clearing out the oldest articles (April, May, and June 2010) from the queue. There are 122 articles left in those categories, which compares very favorably with the 281 that were present at the close of the September drive. We have reduced the 2010 backlog by 184 articles so far. Coordinator elections: The term of our second tranche of coordinators will be running out at the end of the year, and we will be accepting nominations for new coordinators early in December. The election will likely run in the last two weeks of December. Please consider helping out by nominating yourself or someone else in the Guild as one of our coordinators. The commitment is for a six-month term. Thanks. Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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DYK for Bathykorus bouilloni

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pyrosoma atlanticum

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Thornton Augustine Washington

Cwmhiraeth, has my article been removed from the DYK nomination page before I've been given the appropriate amount of time to review another article so that my nomination is within regulations? I reviewed the article for the Rihanna song "Talk That Talk" when I received your message, but now I see my article is no longer included on the page. I've been away from the DYK nomination process for quite some time and was not aware of this new requirement. Is there a way to re-post my article for approval now that I've reviewed another article? Thanks for your guidance on this issue. --Caponer (talk) 15:21, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I just noticed that it has been promoted to a preparation queue. Thanks again for all your help! --Caponer (talk) 15:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Branchiostoma lanceolatum

Orlady (talk) 22:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC) 16:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK review for Thomas Crawford (captain)

DYK review note: Thank you for your review of Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Crawford (captain). There are still some issues concerning this nomination that may need to be clarified; please respond on that page as soon as possible. Mikenorton (talk) 10:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Cwmhiraeth. I've used this template because I think that when questions arise concerning a nomination review, the original reviewer should be alerted. The template hasn't had much use yet (just once or twice I think), so I was wondering what you felt about being 'templated' in this way? Mikenorton (talk) 10:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I have no objection to being alerted by this template. In fact I would rather discuss any issues that may arise from a review I have done on my talk page rather than on the review page.

Having looked at the "Duplication Detector" report I can see that the article has some problems. I did compare the article with the main source for the attack on Dumbarton Castle but thought the phraseology of the part that I inspected was just sufficiently different so as not to be considered as close paraphrasing.

The background to my doing several DYK reviews was that some of them were getting so overdue. It is rather disappointing for a new (or any) editor to put his article forward for DYK and then for nobody to review it. So I thought I would help, but I don't really know how to check for plagiarism other than googling a sentence or two. I also think that the close paraphrasing issue is sometimes taken to extremes. In the articles I write I often have to write a description of an organism from one source of limited length. There are technical terms to be used and a generally accepted order for different aspects and I find providing the information and avoiding close paraphrasing a difficult balancing act. I once had someone object to my reusing a commonly used 3 word phrase. If you don't want me doing reviews, I can always stop! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

It was Nikkimaria who put a 'hold' on that nomination, I'm just trying to make sure that both the nominator and reviewer are aware of this so that changes can be agreed at the nomination page to allow the nomination to proceed. The particular question there is the use of a public domain source without the correct attribution being added to the article - giving something saying This article incorporates material from xxxx which is in the public domain or whatever at the bottom of the page. There is also quite a discussion going on about whether any verbatim or near verbatim copying from PD sources should be allowed in a DYK nomination even if the correct attribution is there - the rules currently say "Nominations should be original work (not inclusions of free data sources) ...". In my view this is OK in limited amounts but you might argue I suppose that in 'Thomas Crawford' it's a little excessive, but I've not spent a great deal of time checking.

I entirely agree about the difficulty of presenting facts in a way that avoids copyvio on the one side and OR/synthesis on the other. For checking I'm using the Duplication detector found here, although it's not perfect - it can't look into googlebooks for instance. I too have been working on the backlog when I get a chance, and thanks for your help on that and please do continue, DYK needs all the help it can get. Mikenorton (talk) 14:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I have added a sentence to the article about using material from a public source. However, the attack on the castle is the main material added by Wikiwayman, and the whole does not really merit inclusion in DYK.

I have just reviewed Reward dependence and every phrase I tried googling was replicated here. I imagine this is a copy of the Wikipedia article, or is it the other way round and a copy violation? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

The Zombo article may well be a copy of the Wikipedia article but there are large scale copyright violations from a series of sources in the wikipedia article anyway. Sources copied include [3] [4] and [5]. Duplication detector reports are [6], [7] & [8]. Mikenorton (talk) 19:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I've contacted the editor in question. I should really just revert the article back to before the expansion, but I can't help hoping that there's some easy explanation of all this, even if that doesn't seem to be the case. Mikenorton (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I make a useless reviewer! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:13, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't despair quite yet - this whole plagiarism/copyvio thing has only hit the project in the last year or so and has only recently started to be handled properly at DYK recently - there are quite a few experienced reviewers who haven't quite grasped it yet. I've been caught out in a couple of reviews where too close paraphrasing turned up later (when they were on the front page). I'm probably being overcautious now because of that. However, duplication detector has certainly been a big help. There will still be grey areas that no-one can agree on, but at least we should try to pick up the ones that are clearly the wrong side of the line. It's tedious for sure, but it's something that we've got to live with. Mikenorton (talk) 20:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

BTW you should undo your tick at the nomination page and explain the problem. Mikenorton (talk) 20:41, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to the December Wikification Drive

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Wikify at 01:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC).

Garret Hobart

The practice, as I understand it, is to allow out-of-time nominations if they are made while while noms for that date are still on the request page. Can I suggest you start a discussion if you are minded to fail it? It is not often we get a vice president at DYK.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I will start a discussion as you suggest. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

When you do, can you drop a link on either this page (temporarily watchlisted) or on my talk, and also on the article talk? Many thanks. It is no big deal either way, I just drop eligible (or nearly) articles at DYK sometimes on their way to bigger things. Was there any other problem with the article? And, I should say, thank you for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I have raised the query here. The article is most impressive. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I was given the choice as to whether the article should be allowed to proceed and I decided in your favour. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the praise, it is part of my McKinley project. I appreciate your allowing it to run.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:59, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Goose neck

FYI, I just reviewed the goose-necked barnacle DYK and gave it a "good to go", but in the PS I suggested a possible refinement to the article -- check it out... -- Presearch (talk)

I found a source that gave an interesting account of the origin of the name barnacle and its link between the geese and the crustacean and added it to the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:26, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE November barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Cwmhiraeth for copy editing articles totalling over 20,000 words during the November 2011 copy edit drive. Thank you so much for participating. Dianna (talk) 16:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK Review Note

DYK review note: Thank you for your review of Template:Did you know nominations/Indus River Delta. There are still some issues concerning this nomination that may need to be clarified; please respond on that page as soon as possible. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mitch McGary & 2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

I have commented at Template:Did you know nominations/Mitch McGary & 2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

And I have replied. I see I made a mistake about the year. I must also admit to knowing nothing about basketball and confusing Michigan Wolverines with Michigan State! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Did not nominate

I didn't nominate this]. PumpkinSky talk 10:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Metridium farcimen

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 08:02, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 backlog elimination drive report GOCE November 2011 Backlog elimination drive progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report. Participation There were 48 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 35 participated. Thank you to everyone who helped reduce the size of the backlog! Progress report During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 232 articles, or by about 6%. This is a two percent increase from our September drive, when we copy edited 4% of the backlog. We were successful in our primary goal of clearing the oldest three months—March, April, and May 2010—from the queue. Thanks to all who helped copy edit these difficult articles. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 5086 articles, or by about 61%. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. Coordinator election The term of our second tranche of coordinators has run out, and we will be accepting nominations from December 5, 00:01 UTC to December 15, 23:59 UTC. If you or any other member of the Guild of Copy Editors wishes to be a coordinator, add your name to this page along with a statement describing why you believe you should be a coordinator for the Guild. You must be able to commit to a six month term. Thanks! Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in January, and we hope to see you there! Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 08:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Death & Destruction

The article was submitted on November 14 but it wasn't approved until November 23. If I had submitted it while still in AFC, I would have been told to wait until it was moved to mainspace, correct? 72.74.203.189 (talk) 23:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I did not realise what the position was with regard to the article. I have raised the issue [here] in the hope that it can be reconsidered for DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate your help, thanks. Is it too late to look into this nomination as well? The editor never responded to my question and it was rejected after three weeks. I can't find anything taken word-for-word from the source that wasn't properly attributed (i.e. direct quotes). Since the hook was supported by at least four newspaper articles, I don't see why the problem statement (whatever it was) couldn't have been rewritten. 72.74.203.189 (talk) 23:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I have now reviewed Death & Destruction for DYK. It is a bit difficult to resurrect the other article now. D&D was an obvious mistake on my part but the other article's problem was of a different nature. If you were to adopt a username, communication between you and other editors might be easier. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lepas anatifera

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lepas anserifera

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Leptogorgia virgulata

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

WoRMS citations

I was updating a citation to use the new {{cite WoRMS}} template and noticed that it was only created today. Are you aware of the new template for WoRMS citations that was created by User:Stemonitis? It produces a result much more like the citation format shown on the WoRMs pages than plain references or the older {{WRMS}} template. See Fungia for an example. I won't update any of your recent WoRMs citations to use this template unless you agree that it's OK to do so. Thanks! bondolo (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I was unaware of this WoRMS template (or the previous one) and I will start using it now I know about it. I was aware however that Stemonitis had reformatted some of my WoRMS references and you are welcome to do any that you come across. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks for creating such good pages! bondolo (talk) 18:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK redux

I don't know if you saw, but I added to the Deutsche Zentral Zeitung article. In looking for more names of staffers who became victims, I found a source that encapsulated the whole story, which was that MOST of the staff became victims, which is why the paper ceased publication. They were decimated and simply could no longer function. I added this information to the article and wrote another hook. Would you mind having a look at the article and the template again? Sorry to do this to you after you've already finished up there, but the information seemed too significant to leave out and changed the way I felt about the previous hook that made it seem like the staff were a bunch of hacks. They may have been to some extent, but they were also living and working in an environment where they knew that what they printed was directly related to their own health — and quite a few of those people never returned. Marrante (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you -- and for the compliment, as well! Marrante (talk) 08:34, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK Murasaki Shikibu Diary

Hi Cwmhiraeth! I replied to your review here. bamse (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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