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Cheboygan Bascule Bridge

Thanks for getting a daylight image of the bridge. Chris857 (talk) 13:29, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Joseph A. Martin

Thanks for the article about Joseph A. MartinJoseph A. Martin,he was my Great Uncle. Here is some additional info I found about him from the book, "I Remember Detroit" by John C. Lodge 1949.

"3 Martin was appointed Commissioner of Public works by Mayor Couzens in 1919 but resigned in 1922 to enter private business as a partner of Frank Couzens, the Mayor's son. In 1923 Martin ran for the city Council, receiving the highest vote and displacing Mr. Lodge as president for the first time since the latter's first election to the council. In the summer of 1924 Mayor Doremus resigned his office because of illness, and Martin resigned from the Council to become candidate for Mayor to fill the unexpired term. The two resignations automatically brought Mr. Lodge back to the position of President of the Council and Acting Mayor. The mayoralty election was won by John W. Smith, who resigned from the office of Postmaster to run against Martin. Martin again became a partner of Frank Couzens in private business. In 1927 he he once more ran for the office of Mayor, this time against Mr. Lodge, and once more was defeated. He was killed in an automobile accident in October, 1928."

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User:Andrew Jameson/sandbox

Sorry that you didn't like my changes, but I was trying to remove your page from Category:Pages with malformed coordinate tags. After changes to the MediaWiki software, you will get red errors if you have more than one template generating coordinates in the title line. But, I suppose if you like having your sandbox in this category, that's up to you. Don't be surprised if another editor tries to clean it up again. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Fairman and Nisbett Buildings

I see you finally got to writing these two articles. I had started skeletons in my userspace, but thanks for getting them written, because I don't know when I might have gotten them done. Good job finding an image of Mr. Fairman, not to be confused with George Fairman ;). Chris857 (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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Just thought I'd point it out to you in case you would be interested by such a thing: Link. Dismas|^(talk) 23:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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Midgaard: which John Lautner?

I've been going through the unassessed WikiProject NRHP articles, and found yours on Midgaard (Marquette, Michigan). Very nice article: I'm inclined to think that with a little touching up, it could be GA material. I've got some notes at the talk page on what, in one editor's opinion, could be done to bring it up to that level.

There's one ambiguity in the article that really should be resolved. In the last paragraph of the "History" section, "John Lautner constructed a terrace... in 1939". Would this be JL Sr., or JL Jr.? It's four years before Sr.'s death, so it could well be him; but it's shortly after the time that Jr. launched his own architectural practice (per his article), so it could be him as well. Unfortunately, the nom form doesn't seem to be available online, and my Google searches didn't turn up the information. Ammodramus (talk) 21:41, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Hope you'll try for a GA on this one; but even if you don't, it's a nice piece of work.

In working through the unassessed NRHP articles, I'm currently in the M's, so I've hit several of your "Michigan..." articles. Not all of them have been as impressive as the Midgaard article, but they've all been of good quality, quite up to the level that I'd want to find if I were trying to learn something about a local landmark. I'm impressed by the fact that you're able to turn out very decent articles at such a steady pace. Keep up the good work! Ammodramus (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK

Hi, were you planning on nominating Wright Opera House Block for DYK, and if not, would you mind if I nominated it? Thanks, Matty.007 11:42, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for J.J. Deal and Son Carriage Factory

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DYK for Lincoln Road–Pine River Bridge

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Queen Anne architecture

Still busy assessing articles for WikiProject NRHP. Right now, working on Frank A. and Rae E. Harris Kramer House. The house is in Queen Anne style, and I noticed that you'd Wikilinked to Queen Anne style architecture. I've changed this to Queen Anne style architecture in the United States, which seems more appropriate: that apparently refers expressly to the Victorian style, while QA architecture without the US qualifier can refer either to that or to English architecture of the Augustan age. You might want to consider that when writing future articles on QA houses on the NRHP (or when revisiting articles you've already created).

I'm still impressed by the pace at which you've been able to turn out high-quality articles. You're setting a great example (though a tough one to follow) for the rest of the WikiProject. Ammodramus (talk) 18:37, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Mystery verb

I'm back at work on assessing NRHP articles, and currently doing yours on Iron Mountain Central Historic District. In the section "Braumart Theater Building (104-108 E. B)", I've encountered something that's left me stumped. In the last sentence, "...the interior space was twinned in the 1970s..." I know little of architecture and interior design, so it may be that "twin" means something in that context; but in that case, we should have a Wikilink or explanation, especially since a quick check of dictionaries and Google didn't turn up anything for me. If it's a typo, I can't think of what it should have been. Could you fix that, please? Thanks. Ammodramus (talk) 15:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix-- it makes things much clearer. Just to clarify a bit more, has it always been a movie theater, or has it done/is it doing duty as a live-theater space as well, as the "Performing Arts" in its 2012 name suggests? Ammodramus (talk) 17:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for trying. One day, when every back-issue of every newspaper of any size has been digitized and rendered fully searchable via our cortical implants... Ammodramus (talk) 00:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. I like your image File:CarnegieLibraryFiskUNashville.jpg, but I am puzzled by the discrepancy between the appearance of the building and the descriptions I read while working on expansion of McKissack & McKissack. Are you sure that the building you photographed is the same Carnegie Library that is on the Fisk University campus, was designed by Moses McKissack, and built in 1908? The McKissack & McKissack Thematic Resources NRHP nomination (written in 1984) states (in part):

In 1908 McKissack received his first large commission, the Carnegie Library on the campus of Fisk University. The building has not been significantly altered and is listed on the National Register as part of the Fisk University Historic District. This two-story brick building was designed in a restrained Neo-Classic style with a stone columned porch, a stone belt course and a large hipped roof of clay tiles and bracketed eaves. The interior contains a two-story light well which provides illumination into the building.

The building you photographed is more than two stories tall and has features that don't match this description. I think the building you photographed might be some other building on the Fisk campus, or possibly some other Carnegie Library building in Nashville. Can you shed any light on this? (I have never been to the Fisk campus, so I'm not much use here...) --Orlady (talk) 01:07, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

There's a photo of the Carnegie Library in the Tennessee Encyclopedia of History and Culture, at [1]. It is definitely not the same building that you identified as the Carnegie Library. I'm going to remove the image from the articles where it is currently labeled as "Carnegie Library". Did you perhaps photograph some other "library"? --Orlady (talk) 03:29, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

From the campus map at http://www.fisk.edu/contact/campus-map I conclude that the building in your photo is the Administration Building, a.k.a. Cravath Hall (see [2] and [3]). It's a notable landmark building that warrants an article. But I guess we need to ask for a name change over at Commons. --Orlady (talk) 17:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I am a novice wikipedia "talker" but wanted to contact Andrew Jameson to ask about how he came upon the Electric Sugar Refinery episode. Is this the place to do it? An e-mail address might be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.200.146 (talk) 22:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I replied at User talk:70.15.200.146. Andrew Jameson (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Photo requests: Detroit area

Hi, Andrew! Do you take photos of the Detroit area to improve Wikipedia articles? If so, may I provide you with some requests of mine?

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biography

I wonder if you would be wiling to evaluate and perhaps post to Wikipedia a biographical article I have written about myself. I am a much published author and a professor, lecturer, preacher, and activist for peace and justice. My career has been interdisciplinary. Thank you for considering my request. Tom F. Driver The Paul J. Tillich Professor of Theology and Culture Emeritus, Union Theological Seminary in New York tfd3@columbia.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Driver (talk • contribs) 16:46, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Biography

The reason I wrote to you is that the Create Articles said that articles written about oneself were almost certain to be deleted immediately. It suggested that I get an editor to evaluate my contribution. Your list of edits looked promising. Tom F. Driver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.193.234.235 (talk) 19:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Your Edit

Andrew:

Thanks for looking after me when you edited the National Historic page when I split the one historic site into two. This is in reference to the Hiawatha Sportsmen Club.

I have almost 500 pictures of historic places now on the National and Michigan Historic site pages.

In all of the contributions I have made, this one is unique and I am not sure how to handle it. This historic place is listed as one, but there are two distinct buildings not in the same space. One building is the maintenance shed and the other is the commissary. I have never done it, buy maybe I can Photoshop the two buildings together. Unless you can assist in getting both of the buildings shown in the single listing.

It is rare that I edit a page. I mostly add the image and on occasion correct the address. There are many address and location errors. I sometimes used Michigan's Historic site web page to do research but they shut it down. I have e-mailed back and forth with Laura at that office trying to find some sites, but she doesn't have any idea either. I don't know if you see the links to their site on Wikipedia are broken.

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First Congregational Church

I was reading were the are demolishing the First Congregational Church of Portland, which is a Michigan and National Historic site. This is because the tornado destroyed it. I looked it up and see you did the photo for it. This is why I am doing this, to record these historic structures.

It is a bit depressing to go to a historic site and find out it is just grass now. Forever lost. I came across this in several of my searches.

Wingerham52 (talk) 15:56, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Andrew:

I am still working on the historical sites in Michigan. Before I get my patty slapped, I wanted to ask you about the protocol of editing over other people's contributions.

This is the first time this has come up for me, so I need some clarification.

There are several images of historic buildings that were posted using old postcards. I have taken pictures of these buildings and was wondering what the protocol for overwriting other's contributions. I know that I wouldn't like that because I have spent a lot of time and miles to get these images.

There is also an photo of a place that is about an inch square when you click on it. My photo will fill the frame.

I haven't counted, but I should have well over 500 images uploaded, but except for a couple, they all went into a blank space.

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This morning, I tried and failed to find the Hull's Trace North Huron River Corduroy Segment, partly because I'd failed to observe that you took your five-years-ago pictures at the Harbin Drive bridge. Do you remember whether the logs were visible from any other location? I looked at the spot where the coords were, and I couldn't see any; I'm left wondering whether they're only visible at Harbin or whether I just missed them. Nyttend (talk) 03:24, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Amity Lodge No. 335 Temple — Spiritual Israel Church and Its Army Temple

Thank you for your work on Amity Lodge No. 335 Temple — Spiritual Israel Church and Its Army Temple, Andrew. I had planned on expanding it a long time ago, but I'm such a procrastinator! Cheers, Markhole (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

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Savage House (Nashville, Tennessee)

Savage House (Nashville, Tennessee)

Hello. I've just created Savage House (Nashville, Tennessee), but this simply does not look like that at all. Where do you think the mistake lies? Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Problem solved. See User talk:Doncram.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

That was archived eventually to User talk:Doncram/Archive 26#Savage House (Nashville, Tennessee). Andrew Jameson's pic was of the correct building. --doncram 18:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

west Michigan notes

Andrew:

After a year or so hiatus, I am back at it. I am now retired, so this gives me something to do. The picture you referenced was a difficult one to find. It is on Sugar Island. It seems no one knows about this house. The GPS coordinates given are in complete error. When I got out of my vehicle to take pictures, the mosquitoes are the size of a small bird and since I was the only warm blooded thing around, they went into full attack mode. I have pretty much filled in the counties on the west side of the state and the eastern UP.

I do have a question. There are some places where someone has already posted pictures. One is about 100 years old showing the building under construction. I have one that was taken recently. When it is proper to replace someone's contribution. I also have other pictures that are much better than the ones that have been posted. I know I wouldn't like to have someone replace my work. I respect the first come, first post.

I have also noted a couple of my pictures have been removed. One was a private historic residence, but the other was a church.

I think I am over 800 historic places, so I am well behind you.

Wingerham52 (talk) 19:49, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Andrew:

I have pretty much filled in most of West Michigan. There are a couple of ones I couldn't get. I got thrown out of the Chicago Club in Charlevoix. I almost got arrested in Coldwater trying to take a picture of the boys school, which is in front of a prison. And then there are the ones that no ones knows about.

I have a couple of questions.

1. Do you know if the SHPO office archives are available to the public? They must have some records that tell of the location of these historic sites.

2. Does someone update the Wikipedia lists when they list and delist buildings? I know Grand Haven was just granted a historic site for the downtown area. I am sure there are other new ones. On the Wiki listings, I see multiple notations that a site has been demolished.

3. I took your advice and replaced three pictures in Crawford County. Let me know if I did a no-no.

4. I would like to be able to post multiple pictures for one site. I see it uses a commonscat command. I don't know how this works. Can you give me a short lesson in doing this? I take a bunch of pictures at a site and pick the cherry out of them, but a lot of times there are other perpectives that would be valuable.

5. So, after over three years and over 800 places, I have pretty much covered both the national and Michigan sites on this side of the state. Is there anything people are working on that I can take photos of? I need another project.

Wingerham52 (talk) 16:56, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Andrew:

Okay, you are on.

In Muskegon County there is one listed as Whipple's Castle. This city is like three blocks. There is a pretty modern house at that address. You know, after finding hundreds of these places, I almost know instinctively if it is historic.

Another is Big Prairie Grange No. 935 Hall in Newago County. The address ends up a regular looking church. It is not a historic building my any means.

There are others. On my last trip, I couldn't find the Ramona Hotel in Harbor Springs. The address is at a development with all very new, very expensive houses.

I found out that the two pictures I thought were removed was my error. I did not upload the church and the other, I question the validity of what I photographed. I really want to make sure what I post is accurate. I am sure there are a few that are misrepresented. I did correct one in Petoskey. I believe Kenneth88 called me out on it.

Wingerham52 (talk) 21:23, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Mysteries

Andrew:

I can't say how much I appreciate the support and advice you have given me over the years. I really don't have a great depth of editing in Wikipedia. I just know how to upload pictures and put them in the article.

Agathociea did write to me about how to use the commonscat command, but it was not very informative. How to do this is still a mystery to me.

On the places I couldn't find I have been to them several times. Sometimes, the address is incorrect, so I search up and down the roads. I can now smell if a building is historic. The Grange hall in Newago address is a United Methodist church. Next to it is a fairly new building. I believe this was the building you referred to. There is an older house across the street. If the church was built on the Grange hall site, it must have been done 25 years ago. So, to still be listed is weird.

The Whipple's Castle I have been to several times. I actually drove up the driveway of the house you referrred to. This is a fairly modern house. It is large, but it is not historic. Now to the south is a little house you referred to. It is older, with stone walls. It is a small single story home, so I doubt this would be considered a castle. Casnovia is a pretty small place. It doesn't even have a gas station. I drove up and down every street and didn't see one building that could be considered historic.

I wasn't surprised about the Ramona Park Hotel. The address listed is the entrance to the Ramona Park Association, where it is packed with probably $30 + million of homes. It is not gated, but there are plenty of signs telling strangers to stay out. If you have ever been to the Harbor Springs area, you can smell the money. It is the enclave of the very rich Chicagoans.

Wingerham52 (talk) 13:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

National Archives' NRHP documents

Hey thanks for creating Muskegon Historic District article, about which I was notified because it links to some article that I must have created. I happened to notice that you successfully used a permalink to a National Archives copy of the NRHP document. I have been operating on the incorrect belief that permalinks there were not available, and I had written that into wp:NRHPhelp. I've just now updated it, and wonder if you could check it out and perhaps improve upon it? Please see wp:NRHPhelp#National Archives Catalog. Note it currently includes my suggestion that the following would be a good model for a reference:
<ref name=nrhpdoc>{{cite web|url=https://catalog.archives.gov/id/ |title=National Register of Historic Places Registration: |publisher=National Archives |author= |date= | accessdate= }} (Note: several minutes may be required for download to complete.)</ref>
Perhaps its warning about long download times could be in a standardized template which could be updated centrally. I think some kind of notice that way is appropriate, but others might not agree, what do you think? Anyhow, thanks for your continuing contributions, and thanks for showing me that permalinking there is possible. --doncram 18:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

User:doncram - the long download note is probably not necessary, but is a nice add as a heads-up to the curious reader. Andrew Jameson (talk) 09:32, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi again, FYI i created a central template to hold a standardized warning to readers about the long download time. Usage is documented at the bottom of the section at Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/Resources#National_Archives_Catalog. Wording may be improved by you or by others in the future. Currently the template displays "Downloading may be slow.". Thanks for your thoughts about this. --doncram 21:39, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Durant-Dort Carriage Company

Hi Andrew, would you mind if I remove the final Office word from the name of this article? Durant-Dort was the horse-drawn General Motors of it's day even before they went to automobiles. We are trying to improve the Wikipedia coverage of carriages and horse-drawn vehicles so this article will become of more importance for the building's occupant rather than the building itself. What do you think about dropping office? Kind regards, Eddaido (talk) 07:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll do that. Keep an eye on what I do and change it to suit. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 02:28, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	James Clements Municipal Airport is better for your efforts. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for creating the Ossian H. Sweet House!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Re: station boxes

Yeah, I'm not the most template oriented person, so I appreciate it. Mitch32^{(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.)} 20:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Need some advice

Andrew:

It has been a while, but I am back adding pictures to the Michigan and National Historic Sites. I found I have to do a lot of research before venturing out and I am not always successful.

I have been working on Calhoun County. I made an error and uploaded a photo that was not correct. I have removed it from the listing, but would like to remove it from my contribution list. I have others that need to be removed, also. I just can't find where I can edit my contribution page. I thought maybe I would have to ask an administrator for deletion, but I can't find out how to do that.

Can you help me on that matter?

Another thing I would like to do is post multiple pictures of a subject. I see that the command is |commonscat=. That is easy, but how do you get that listing in Commons. When I look at one that you did in edit, it doesn't even list the links to the pictures. And I can't find a way to add the listings in Commons. So, any help there would be appreciated.

I have listings that I just can't find. It used to be that Michigan had a resource online, but they removed it. Is there some resource I can access that would help me?

For instance, the Roosevelt Community House in Battle Creek. The GPS coordinates are incorrect and that address doesn't exist. It puts you at the end of the road where the street number is much higher. There is absolutely nothing on the internet about it.

Wingerham52 (talk) 18:54, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Andrew:

Thanks for all the help. The link to the National Archive was the trick about the Roosevelt House. It gave the true location of it. I have changed both the address and the GPS coordinates for this designation.

I will work on testing putting multiple images up later.

Now for the big elephant. I have images of various buildings that no longer exist. These come from various sources and were not created by my camera. I tried to do this a while ago with an image of a demolished building that I found on the internet and it was deleted almost immediately. The picture had no info about the author, so I couldn't attest that it wasn't copyrighted. It was a picture from 40 years ago.

I have these images, because I hate to lose these images of significant places.

Is there a way I can upload them and put them into the blank slots of these places without getting scolded?

Maybe when the all the leaves fall, I am going to revisit some of the places that are hidden by leaves.

Wingerham52 (talk) 20:30, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Michigan fire station articles

Hi, I have long been admiring your steady progress in developing NRHP articles in Michigan, which I watch in the graphics at wp:NRHPPROGRESS. I wonder if you could possibly please shake up your order of work to create the following three, sooner rather than later:

• Portage Street Fire Station, Kalamazoo, Michigan, NRHP-listed
• Old Fire House No. 4, Kalamazoo, Michigan, NRHP-listed
• Engine House No. 3 (Kalamazoo, Michigan), NRHP-listed

These are the three redlinks in Michigan's section of new List of fire stations, which is mostly NRHP listings, vs. 12 bluelinks in Michigan. There are about 115 redlinks overall; I want to work ahead on creating most of the rest of these in one big push; it would be a help to see the Michigan ones get done by you. Either way, hope you are well, keep up the good work. Cheers, --Doncram (talk) 08:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

thank you for your reply to my talk , that’ll be grand. :) —Doncram (talk) 15:06, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Please accept this barnstar as a small token of my appreciation for your creation of numerous articles on NRHP-listed buildings in Flint and Genesee County, Michigan. I am very impressed with your work, and deeply appreciative of the contribution it is making to Wikipedia. Thanks again! Michael Barera (talk) 22:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)