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Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Contests

A chance to win $1000 for contributing articles on Africa. If interested sign up in participants section!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Great initiative doc! I've been busy these past couple weeks, but I'll try my hand at this if time allows. Cheers, --Al Ameer (talk) 20:49, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

If you and Huldra are interested we could extend it to Israel, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: That'd be awesome, especially if we could also include Iraq since it's a terribly weak subject here as well. Always wished there were more users to edit this general topic area. I'm on board ;) Also looking forward to participating in the upcoming North Africa drive. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

That would be fine I think. We may as well, as it's unlikely we're going to see much other interest outside of this. I'll announce it tomorrow. See if you can get more people on board and sign up in the participants section at the bottom of the page.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Contests

User:Dr. Blofeld has created Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ -- 01:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Saint John of Damascus

A Person cleared a lot of his Information in Wikipedia , according to the attached information sources, He is mostly an Arab from the tribe Banu Taghlib, or Assyrian, in Arabic Books his Name: Mansur ibn Sarjun Al-Taghlibi, there is a person who modified the page and erase all mention him in Arabic, you can help us and edit this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus Agagasoft (talk) 22:56, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Ottoman Jordan

Would it be appropriate to have a separate "Ottoman Jordan" article? Or is there too little information to add? --Makeandtoss (talk) 18:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Makeandtoss. Excuse me for the late reply, been busy lately. In principle, I don't see anything wrong with having an article called "History of Jordan under the Ottoman Empire" if there's sufficient information. However, because the current section is so small, I'm not sure if having a separate article is warranted. The best thing to do, in my opinion, is to create a draft called User:Makeandtoss/Ottoman Jordan and see what kind of article you could build from available sources. If it's substantial enough, then create an article. If not, just move what you have in the draft to the Ottoman section. --Al Ameer (talk) 16:05, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Would you know if there are similar articles? So I can try to determine if a separate article would be appropriate. --Makeandtoss (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

For the Levantine countries, there are no similar articles yet. For Palestine, see History of Palestine#Ottoman era. It's extensive, but still missing important information for the late 19th century period. I was going to separate it from the article, but got distracted with other subjects. There's an Ottoman Syria article, but it's about the Levant and its scope is uncertain. The fact that other Levantine regions with far more recorded history under the Ottomans than Jordan do not currently have their own "Ottoman history" articles makes me think that expanding the section, instead of creating a separate article, is the better choice, at least for the time being. --Al Ameer (talk) 16:39, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Districts of south Lebanon

Hi, I have been trying to clean up a bit on Lebanon-articles lately, there are some problems:

On this map (which is typically linked from on all/most placed in Lebanon,) the South Governorate stretches quite far east. But if you look at the southern most part of that Governorate, that is: the Tyre District...it is much smaller.

It looks as if the Bint Jbeil District in that larger map is in the South Governorate, while it is now in Nabatieh Governorate (alas, not in its map!) Huldra (talk) 22:59, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure if that is supposed to be a question or a notice, but:

1) The correct version is the one where the southern district is only in the West (confirmed with Google Maps, Open Street Map, Localiban and some old IDF maps I have on my pc)

2) I think this is an oppertunity to ask NordNordWest, the creator of this map to try and fix it. I woulddo it myself but my SVG editing skills can be compared to the US elections candidates.--Bolter21 23:55, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

No problem, I will fix it. NNW (talk) 07:53, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

User:NordNordWest: Thanks! Note that the maps used in South Governorate and Nabatieh Governorate also needs updating. Also, the pushpin map used in the template on places like Deyrintar: how do you update them? Huldra (talk) 09:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Pushpin maps like Deyrintar are already correct now because they use file:Lebanon adm location map.svg. If you still see the old map you have to empty your browser cache. The locator maps have to be updated, too, but that needs some time. I cannot do this while I am at work. :o) NNW (talk) 09:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

User:NordNordWest: You are right; thanks. I assume that with "locator maps" you mean things like File:South_in_Lebanon.svg and File:Nabatiye_in_Lebanon.svg? Huldra (talk) 09:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that are locator maps (not to be confused with location maps for Template:Location map). NNW (talk) 09:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

User:NordNordWest: Ok, thanks. I am 100% ignorant about these maps.... Huldra (talk) 09:36, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

The locator maps are corrected now. NNW (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

User:NordNordWest: Thanks!! Huldra (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, still cleaning up the southern Lebanese villages... Hebbariye, Rachaya Al Foukhar and Chebaa (Hasbaiya) all have pictures on commons; however, all the pictures are too big (=includes text). My present computer don´t seem to have (an easy!) way to cut these pictures down, do you? Huldra (talk) 22:42, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey @Huldra: Thank you for your efforts here, and no problem, I'll crop them tomorrow. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 02:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Huldra: Sory for the delay, this was the best cropping I could do with basic software: File:Rachaya al-Foukhara.jpg, File:Hebbariyeh.jpg, File:Chebaa Hasbaiya stencil cropped.jpg. Regards, --Al Ameer (talk) 22:51, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Thats great, thanks a lot! (I used to have that basic software...but after a recent update I cannot find it (!) ...oh well....) Huldra (talk) 23:02, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Numayrid Infobox

Numayrids [] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help)
990-1081
Capital	Harran
Common languages	Arabic Minority Languages: Greek
Religion	Majority:Islam Minorities: Christianity, Judaism
Government	Emirate
Amir
• 990-1019	Waththāb ibn Sābiq al-Numayrī
• 1019-1040	Shabīb ibn Waththāb
• 1040	Muṭaʿin ibn Waththāb
• 1040-1063	Manīʿ ibn Shabīb
Historical era	Era
• Independence from Hamdanids	990
• Lost of Edessa	1031
• Fatimid Vassalage	1038
• Abbasid Allegiance	1060
• Uqaylids Entrance and later Seljuks	1081
Currency	Dirham, Dinar
Preceded by Succeeded by Hamdanid dynasty Uqaylid dynasty Seljuk Empire File:Seljuqs Eagle.svg
Today part of	TurkeySyria

I see you were working on the page and it lacked an Infobox Alexis Ivanov (talk) 20:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

@Alexis Ivanov: Haha thank you my friend. I just added it with some minor amendments. I never know what kind of infobox to add to these articles about petty medieval states(?), dynasties, tribes, etc. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:02, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge

Hello. I've revamped the contest page into this, based on the new British model. Long term goal, but I've added entries since the beginning of July to give it some initial life. Please add anything you've done then this then too! I hope it proves productive long term. The contests are still planned, but will be more tools towards increasing bulk output in overall goal. It's a permanent goal now, and open! I would be grateful if you could keep a record of all your articles you do there, as I really think seeing the combined efforts will encourage others to create more content too! Please spread the word to the others, cheers!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:21, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Numayrids

Hi Al Ameer son,

Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I saw your request for a map for the article on the Numayrids; if you still need one, I'll be happy to try and make one. Ro4444 (talk) 20:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ro4444: No problem friend I know you're busy. Yes I would love if you could a create a map for the Numayrids. Would you like to continue this conversation here or at Talk:Numayrid dynasty? --Al Ameer (talk) 20:43, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ro4444: I highly doubt you can create a map for this Numayrids, with all due respect and as a big fan of your maps, I mean the only thing you can do is outline the Byzantine-Numayrid border at Edessa and it's surrounding , but I'm interesting in seeing this work. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 21:56, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Alexis Ivanov: Don't see why a map could not be made. During the peak of Mani' ibn Shabib's reign, they held several cities and fortresses in the Diyar Mudar (Harran, Saruj, al-Raqqa, Qal'at Najm, Qal'at Ja'bar/Dawsar, al-Rahba, al-Qarqisiyah) and ostensibly the pastures/lands between and surrounding those places. --Al Ameer (talk) 22:17, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Between the Khabur and Euphrates river as border, maybe you can make a map. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Alexis Ivanov: I likewise think it is possible to make a map of this dynasty. As Al Ameer says, throughout its history it controlled several cities in a relatively contiguous and stable district; unlike some other tribal dynasties this one seems to have remained entrenched where they were in this period.

@Al Ameer son: I've been doing some work on this map, using a tentative date of right after al-Basasiri's death when the Numayrids seized Qarqisiya and al-Rahba. I have been having some trouble with it though; the problem being that the area controlled by the Numayrids is so small that it's hard to establish sufficient context. There also is a relative lack of information that can reliably be placed on the map. Since this would be such a small map, the borders would have to be given in a rather high level of detail, but outside of major cities historians of the period make few references to specific localities and who controlled them, for example I couldn't find any references to the Khabur region at this time. I initially tried to get around this by zooming the map out over a greater area and turning it into a map of the political entities of the entire Jazira, but that quickly ran into problems as well; the Uqaylids were significantly more nomadic in this time, and although a core area of their territories could be reasonably drawn, where exactly their "rule" began and ended in central Iraq seems extremely difficult to figure out. It may take me some time to create something that I'm reasonably happy with. If you have any suggestions or guidance, I'd be happy to take it. Ro4444 (talk) 21:49, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ro4444: I'm a big fan of your work so if you can do it, it will be great. Also I recommend Professor Ian Mladjov who I have contacted before, he got some highly detailed maps of the Caucasia region late 10th century all the way mid eleventh century, check it out. https://sites.google.com/a/umich.edu/imladjov/maps ctrl+f "Caucasia c. 999" and the two maps below, I have also seen some maps low quality maps made by some Arab guy, but as far the concern should go the map would be small, the only reason you should make this map is if you make a map for the surrounding states. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ro, I've been busy but I've also been giving this some thought. Since I was gonna request another map showing the Mirdasids' domain during the peak of Salih ibn Mirdas's reign (ca. 1026), maybe we could a kill a few birds with one stone, i.e. depict the Bedouin emirates of the Mirdasids, Numayrids, Jarrahids, Uqaylids, as well as the regional powers (Byzantines, Fatimids, Abbasids) along the lines of Alexis's proposal. The current map we have simply doesn't cut it and is actually inaccurate/simplistic. What are your thoughts? If you think this is the best way to go, we could get into the details of who controlled what at that time; I have a good deal of info about all this. Either way, I think it's very important we have one of your high-quality maps depicting Syria or the wider Mashriq for the early or mid 11th century. As articles on the aforementioned emirates and their rulers improve, such a map will serve as a handy illustrative tool and guide. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Numayrid dynasty

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DYK nomination of Zufar ibn al-Harith al-Kilabi

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@BlueMoonset: I know it must be getting old chasing me around for QPQ's, but I appreciate your patience ;) The QPQ's done now, and another for the Numayrid dynasty is on the way. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 21:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Tughtakin

Hi well done for finishing off the article on Tughtakin. I spent some time trying to find more material and sources a couple of years ago, but never turned up anything. Glad to see you've done it! Mccapra (talk) 10:41, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Mccapra: Thanks! I had it in draft mode since 2012, but forgot about it until finally moving it to mainsapce three years later. Your efforts with the other Ayyubid emirs are also appreciated. More attention is needed for this topic area. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son:Yes I'm looking at this area again now, specifically nuruddin shahanshah and bin al muqaddam. A couple of my ayyubid articles got deleted for the minor rulers as. There wasn't much content to them I guess so I'll do some more research and have another go. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Mccapra: Great to hear. Let me know if you need anything, I'm particularly interested in Ibn al-Muqaddam. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 21:28, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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DYK The Best Intentions

I responded to your comment at Template:Did you know nominations/The Best Intentions, I also fixed a second dead link. Care to take another look? Ribbet32 (talk) 03:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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10,000 Asia Challenge

Hi, I wondered if you'd be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge and Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge? The idea is to showcase the work being done on wikipedia across the continent, and inspire more people to create and work on countries which might not usually get much attention (like Iraq and Turkmenistan etc) and then possibly running some contests to bring in new editors. If interested add your name to the participants and I'll consider setting something up later in the month.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:19, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

There should be a barnstar

for getting breaking the 50,000 edit barrier, which I calculate must have occurred in these last days. My highest regards. Numbers are not hard to rack up, yours, with the high quality, are. Best Nishidani (talk) 20:29, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Nish. As always, your kind words are appreciated ;) --Al Ameer (talk) 20:25, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Yet another...

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Hmmm, it seems long ago that I gave you another one of these, but it was only last year. Probably my perception of relative time is warped by the constant stream of interesting and well-researched articles that you write on the history of Syria, Palestine and the Arabs in the Levant. So once again, thanks a lot for your hard work and unfailing dedication to quality, and keep it up! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 20:07, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Cplakidas: Thank you old friend ;) Always humbled by your kind words. You deserve at least one of these every week for your amazing work, which, by the way, I use as a model for much of my editing of history-related matters here. And good luck with the Byzantine task-force I see you've started; it's long overdue. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 18:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Numayrid dynasty

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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

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Translation of a source

Assuming, based on your origin, that you know Arabic, there is this source, which is the only reliable Arabic source I found for Beit Qad, and I am not planning on making futher research for this article, so if you can, please try to incorporate any good information from this source, to the article. I translated the first two paragraphs, but it was difficult and I give up translating it myself (and google translate does a fairly bad job). (feel free to ce the article as well)--Bolter21 15:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@Bolter21: Unfortunately, this an incorrect assumption because though I can speak Arabic, I cannot read/write it :( Furthermore, many of the editors I went to for such translations in the past are currently inactive, but I'll keep this source on hand for the near future. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:25, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Mansur ibn Lu'lu'

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Your input is required

Hi, I noticed your interest in Syria related articles, so I hope you can contribute to the discussion here. Cheers. [[User:|Amr ibn Kulthoum]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 06:28, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, I'll take a look. --Al Ameer (talk) 06:44, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Rojava human rights

Hello Ameer, I know that you dont involve yourself in those disputes (normally, neither do I but this is so out of hand). This is consuming my Wiki time, I decided to start the rewriting of Zenobia in My Sandbox, but instead, I had to waste the time on the useless passionate fight of that editor Just look here

Here you will understand what Im talking about. That user is so militant, its kind of impossible to deal with him. Do you have any advice as I dont know how to act, I reached a dead end, no reason in the world can make this user get some sense.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: Hi Attar, I've been pretty removed from these types of disputes for a long while and as you know mostly focus on editing historical/geographical/bio articles. So, I'm not sure if I can give you much advice here other than to discuss with a cool head (despite the tested patience and growing frustration) because it only takes away from the real issues at hand, i.e. lack of NPOV, original research, unreliable/non-ideal sources, etc. If you've reached a dead end with this other user and you don't think mediation will work, you could always start a Request for Comment to get input from others. However, a flaw with this method is that it often attracts partisan editors and prolongs the matter further. Otherwise, you could leave a message to the Admin's noticeboard with your specific concerns, especially if NPOV and OR is the main issue at hand. I hope this stuff doesn't take too much of your time from Zenobia and similar topics. Speaking of which, I intend to work on the Palmyra Castle article sometime soon as I've come into some great sources recently, which I could share with you if you'd like. Good luck, --Al Ameer (talk) 19:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

I understand and cant blame you really. Its stressfull and time consuming. Can you give at least your opinion in the discussion Here. As for the citadel, i will be glad to help if ever needed and any source about any findings in its site dating to the times of zenobia or odaenathus is helpful. Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:09, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: Yes, I'll take a look and leave my two cents today or tomorrow. And, I'll let you know what I find about the castle's ancient history, if any. --Al Ameer (talk) 17:46, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Need help from admin editing an article

Hey AL ameer son, there is a huge problem with a certain religious article I saw that has a lot disrespectful stuff against God. I tried to fix it but my edits kept getting undone, so I need an admin like you to help me please. very important. Please respond to this. thank you Obeyel (talk) 05:28, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Former villages in Palestine listed at Redirects for discussion

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Arabic spelling and transliteration

Could you please check the Arabic translation at Roman Theatre at Palmyra and provide transliteration for it? --Երևանցի ^talk 08:56, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

@Yerevantsi: In the Roman theater article, the English word was translated literally, which I think is not good. The Arabic page has a different form and I believe the correct Arabic word which is "Masrah Tudmur" literally "Palmyra Theater". So I could do that for you Alexis Ivanov (talk) 10:04, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Shibl al-Dawla Nasr

On 23 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shibl al-Dawla Nasr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that with a modest force of Bedouin horsemen, Shibl al-Dawla Nasr defeated a much larger Byzantine army led by Emperor Romanos III? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shibl al-Dawla Nasr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Shibl al-Dawla Nasr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Zenobia

Hello Ameer, yesterday i finished the article of Zenobia. It took a month but its over finally. I feel it is an FA quality and I dont want to waste time in GA, so, is it possible for you to have a look at it and tell me your notes ? Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: Fantastic work! I can't believe you did all of this within a month. I've read up to the "Consort" section and will continue reading throughout the coming days. The article appears impeccably sourced and I'm glad you used the Harvard-style. You don't need to nominate this for GA, but I recommend you request a thorough copyedit from the copyeditors' guild. As you may remember from Palmyra, the FAC reviewers are sticklers for excellent prose. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your words. Though it doesnt compare to what you did in the Al-Fadl article despite the scarcity of sources. I read your comments below and I will wait until you finish the whole review then apply the changes you think appropriate. Thanks a lot for taking the time, really appreciate it.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 10:39, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: Just to update you, I've continued to make copyedits and little fixes here and there. I'm almost finished with the article. In the meantime, it may be a good idea to go ahead and post the article to the Copyeditors' Guild (to lessen the wait time) or request a thorough copyedit from an individual copyeditor you've used in the past, such as the users who helped you with Palmyra. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Good idea Ameer. I will do that, in the meantime I will try to turn all my articles into the Harvard citations style. Thanks a lot for what you are doing on Zenobia.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: I've pretty much finished my copyedits of the article body and lead. I'll take a deeper look in the sourcing through the coming days. And excuse me for the long time it's taken, I've been busy in RL and with other distractions on WP. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Hey, sorry, just saw this, I didnt receive a notification, ping doesnt always work apparently. Thanks a lot for what you did, you have nothing to apologies to, Im just thankful for your help which isnt an obligation, yet you are doing it. Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:27, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Initial issues

• A recurring issue I've noticed so far is unattributed commentary (such as The accounts of the Augustan History can be dismissed as fiction and ... this can be dismissed as Zenobia did not reverse Odaenathus' policy ...). Assertions such as these should be attributed to their author(s).
• MoS issues such as italicizing literary works and lower-casing the Arabic article "al-" unless it's at the beginning of a sentence. These are easy fixes and I've taken care of most of them I think. As I move forward, I'll make note of and fix other MoS issues.
• There have been a few typos and grammatical erros here and there—again, I'll fix these as I spot them.
• When listing sources in the Bibliography, you should use the original publishing year. The year used in the Google Books summary page often is not original year, which could be found in the book itself. I mention this because when stumbling on the Watson book, Aurelian and the Third Century, I saw that the original publishing year was 1999 not 2004, as the Bibliography indicates; the book was actually reprinted in 2004, not published that year.
• More to come. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Trouble!

Hello, I wish you to follow this talk.--HailesG (talk) 03:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Please we need your expertise in this talk and in the Arabs article.--HailesG (talk) 11:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Please put an end to this talk, should we go to vote.--HailesG (talk) 07:31, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Ummayad Army

Hey Ameer, I saw your new project (Im so impressed by your works to the point of stalking your contributions to see whats new in your agenda). A while ago, I did some small research and came out with some sources about the composition of the army. I will list them here and you can use them if you found them beneficial.

• They employed Syrian mawalis (non Arab moslims) Islam and the Destiny of Man. SUNY Press + Rituals of Islamic Monarchy. Edinburgh University Press
• The majority of soldiers were Arabs, but non Arab Syrians served The Armies of the Caliphs. Routledge
• Muawia used non-Arab Syrians to deal with Arab uprisings (this made him avoid Arab vs Arab fighting) Islam: Origin and Belief. University of Texas Press

• Muawia counted mainly on Syrian mawalis and Yemeni tribes, while avoiding the Hijazi ones The Arab Contribution to Islamic Art. American Univ in Cairo Press.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Attar-Aram syria: Interesting stuff, I'll definitely take these sources into account as I continue to work on that project; incidentally, the second source you listed (Armies of the Caliphs) is the main source I'm currently using. I wasn't aware of the Umayyads' use of local Syrians in the army, though I know they were certainly used in other government bodies and many served as advisers of the Damascene caliphs. And you are welcome to stalk my contribs anytime my friend ;) Actually, I do the same with you every now and then. Eventually, I want to rewrite the article on the Umayyads and many of the articles on the caliphs of Damascus. Also on the agenda are the regions of Hawran and Palmyrena (which might interest you), the castle of Palmyra, the Mirdasid Emirate, and the Kalb, Kilab, Tayy, Mawali and Annazah tribes, and much more. There's a lot to do, yet so little time, as you know all too well. Hopefully we can collaborate on some these projects in the very near future. --Al Ameer (talk) 22:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh wow, sounds very interesting. Im actually fascinated by the Ummayads, they were way ahead of their time. I wanted to re-write their article a long time ago but it is a huge work and I dont have the time to be honest. Im always more than happy to collaborate with you friend :). Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 22:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Zuhayr ibn Janab

On 14 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zuhayr ibn Janab, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the pre-Islamic Arab chieftain Zuhayr ibn Janab destroyed a sanctuary that rivalled the Kaaba of Mecca? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zuhayr ibn Janab. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zuhayr ibn Janab), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

The SNPP is relevant

Because this actually goes into direct confrontation with any Arab nationalist ideology and the idea of a pan Arab Ummah. (which is what I assume you believe in)GoulGoul1 (talk) 20:33, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

The SSNP may have some relevance in Levantine politics, but it's not relevant to a discussion about whether or not Arabs constitute an ethnic group. Don't assume too much my friend. I don't have qualms with the idea of a greater Syria, a smaller Lebanon, or a larger pan-Arab state; that's for the people in these places to decide. Traditional pan-Arabism's decline doesn't mean that people who identify as Arabs in Libya and Iraq are suddenly no longer Arabs, and they don't need to support pan-Arabism in order to be Arabs. Greater Syrian or Maghrebi nationalism, pan-Arabism, different shades of Islamism, Communism and state nationalism are all ideologies with socio-political agendas. What does any of that have to do with who constitutes an ethnic group? I understand you are a new here, but this site is not meant to be a forum for political debate. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son: I never said that they no longer are Arabs, but the beliefs of Arab nationalism generally correlated with the idea of a pan Arab Ummah (Which, besides being irrealistic and full of problems, I'm harshly against) You're going to tell me you believe to be the same ethnicity as someone from Libya but you wouldn't want to unite with them around your supposed ethnic inhabitation ? The SNPP believes in the idea of a nation based around the Mashriq (not sure if there was any updates in this regards, but anyway). They will tell you that their most important identity is one based around Syria, for them, a Libyan is irrelevant the same way that a French man is. Linguistic ties don't constitute a nation or a people. (according to Saadeh, at least) Either way, I'm not sure why you assume that calling yourself Arab has any implication of identifying as some common ethnicity ? I usually identify as first as a Lebanese (and I hate my country) because that's what tells the most about me. If I identified as an Arab this wouldn't really tell much. What kind of Arab ? The North African variety with clear Berber influences ? The Sudanese one with clear sub saharan african background ? The Egyptian one which is associated with the Pyramids et all ? The tribal one from Yemen ? See, that's why I can't accept your notions. And yeah, im new here.GoulGoul1 (talk) 04:36, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Palmyrene alphabet

Hey Ameer, can I get your input here please. Some users have nothing to do.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 21:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hello, can you work on these sections Arabs#Subgroups and Arabs#History, there is incorrect and inconsistent information. I'm working now on the Arab diaspora, culture and religion.--HailesG (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

@HailesG: The article is quite a mess, and has been since it was created. As of now, I'm working on a lot of Arab history-related articles, including articles about the Arab tribes, caliphates, dynasties, the pre-Islamic period, etc. I plan on working on the main "Arabs" article in the future, but not anytime soon I'm afraid. In the meantime, however, if you need help with sources, I'll be happy to assist you the best I can. Cheers --Al Ameer (talk) 00:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

First I want to thank you for helping me in the talk :), I will work a lot in the article and leave the rest to you, so I may be facilitated You'll work in the future.--HailesG (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Btw

Go check the John of Damascus article. I noticed it was vandalized by some Syriac (most likely Assyrian) nationalist.GoulGoul1 (talk) 19:14, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

@GoulGoul1: I don't know too much about him, but will take a look later (I'll be busy for the next couple days). I can tell you now though that scholarly sources should preferably be used for articles on historical people and events. Cheers, --Al Ameer (talk) 06:46, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

"Hafar" is a former Turkmen village in the occupied Golan Heights.

Thanks for the information provided71.191.5.227 (talk) 15:25, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected

Hi, I am HailsaG I got blocked on Wikipedia, so I hope to protect the article from vandals. Thank you.--84.227.180.25 (talk) 05:03, 27 December 2016 (UTC)