User talk:Accedie/Archive 5

Feminism in Russia

Hi, Maryana. Nice new article. I just fixed an issue you should be aware of. In this edit, you added a second definition of a named reference "NoonanNechemias2001". This one was to pages 22–23. But there was already a ref named "NoonanNechemias2001" that was to p. 251 and this caused the new one to be collated with the prior one; see here; both showing as p. 251. I fixed this by giving them unique names. However, when there are many such disparate references to the same work, it is better to use a referencing system such as {{sfn}}.

I hope your edit-a-thon went well; I tried helping various pages and participants during it. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 21:21, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I need to read up on this sfn thing, because this article is going to require a lot of referencing to different pages of the same books, and I'm reaching the outer limits of my novice Wikipedia citation system (as you can tell by my dumb mistakes :-P). I'll try to tackle reference formatting later this afternoon. Feel free to jump in too, of course! Accedie^{talk to me} 21:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

You need to read my contribs. I do an awful lot of this. I did make two further edits. If you're going to be citing many different pages of the same books, {{sfn}} is /the/ way to go. That also means this hybrid is not going to be right for this article; see this way for the path forward. Some more robust examples:

• Nikita Khrushchev
• Richard Nixon
• Neville Chamberlain
• Pedro II of Brazil
• Amundsen's South Pole expedition
• William McKinley
• Assassination of William McKinley
• Lynching of Jesse Washington
• Chinese Indonesians
• Sudirman
• Sitti Nurbaya
• Adolf Hitler
• George Went Hensley
• SMS Blücher
• Yogo sapphire
• I'll stop now…

 Br'erRabbit  22:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Is it better now? It was kind of a pain to reformat, but it looks much nicer now, I think! I even got up the courage to nominate it for DYK :) Accedie^{talk to me} 00:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Better, and betterer. The re-work goes easier when you've done a bunch. I've done hundreds; many of the ones above, for example. And I've taught this system to many who've run with it. {sfn}/{sfnRef} works well with articles primarily sourced to paginated sources. For things sourced primarily to things on the web, using the WP:LDR system is usually best. You can do hybrids, as diff'd above, when the sources are mixed.

fyi, links to gBook previews usually rot; they are pretty arbitrary and capricious about what they will actually serve over time. You can use full urls with {sfn}, but it can clutter the article prose in the same way inline citation templates do. To sort that, use another hybrid: ref-tags in LDR form containing {{harvnb}} using links on the |p= parameter ;) the urls are then out of the prose. I don't do that much but there are examples somewhere. Let me know when you need to learn this. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:38, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• (i got my old user page back; it's dynamic;) Br'er Rabbit (talk) 11:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, again; We've an issue with recent edits to the article. There's an invalid ISBN on a work sourcing new content. Often this is an easy fix, but there are many editions of The Russians, and I'm not going to just drop in an ISBN I can find. The discussion is at:

• User talk:Daniel Case#Smith ISBN in Feminism in Russia

Br'er Rabbit (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

"fixed", hopefully the page numbers match :/ Br'er Rabbit (talk) 11:23, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for minding the gap!

		Mind the Gap Award
		Thank you Maryana for not only lending a hand with the Edit-a-thon this past weekend, but for your great work at Feminism in Russia and beyond. Thanks for minding the gap! Sarah (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

For your help copyediting William T. Anderson a few months back, it was just promoted to features status today. I'm really happy with how it turned out. I didn't ask for any copyediting help on the last article I brought to FA--it was about a lynching and was a pretty disturbing read. Probably one of the few articles that has no chance of being TFA. Hope things are going well with you, how's the weather in San Francisco? Mark Arsten (talk) 05:22, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Congrats again, Mark! I actually did read Lynching of Jesse Washington – I was looking at examples of {{sfn}}-formatted references so I could improve an article that I was working on – and you're right, it was interesting but horrifying. (As for TFA... I mean, we did have The Human Centipede on the main page, so you never know.)

Anyway, just let me know if you ever need another pair of eyes/hands on your next big project! And if you have a minute, I'd love your opinion on Feminism in Russia. I'd like to take it to GA at some point, and your expertise and improvements would be greatly appreciated :) Accedie^{talk to me} 02:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, glad to hear that you read it. I'm shifting away from the horrifying stuff for a little while, writing about new religious movements now. There are quite a few people out there who claim to be Jesus, that's for sure. I'll make sure I read Feminism in Russia, that is an interesting topic. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:55, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

(love the mind the gap, above;)

Hi, the latest makeover to {sfn} is Nansen's Fram expedition, which will be on the main page, next. It's a good read and more eyes on it while it's on offer to the anyones is goodness. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ok, I left some comments about Feminism in Russia. Not surprisingly, it was a pretty well written article :) Mark Arsten (talk) 20:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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Not a trout, but a ham

I just. Can't. Control. Myself. I find. His page. So. Compelling. And. I. Find Myself. Waiting. For. A chance. To show. – James T. Kirk, before someone drops a bridge on him

• Sorry! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the real looker is on the left.

So many pictures of Kirk, but none of them shirtless? That's just false advertising for the Original Series. Anyway, I was always more of a Spock girl. I was even Spock for Halloween two years back! Black hair dye sure does take a long time to wash out... Accedie^{talk to me} 03:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

• *raises eyebrow* Fascinating. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

It's all in the eyebrow. Accedie^{talk to me} 03:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

• Any good pictures of Uhura around? Mark Arsten (talk) 04:12, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm picking up mixed signals, captain. - Uhura

• Now there's a fine lady. The female ensign in "A Taste of Armageddon" was more my type though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

New project

Hi Accedie, I've been working on a new project, Marshall Applewhite. Any chance you'd be up for some copyediting on it? You might enjoy the article, if only for the pictures :) Mark Arsten (talk) 03:42, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I was going to say if there's no Spock, but then... Good job! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, the pictures really made me laugh. I'm open to a different picture from Revelation, I couldn't find a good one of the two witnesses though. The martyrs under the flying alter kind of looked like a spaceship so I figured that was good enough. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:51, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahahahaha... wow. Next you'll be finding clever ways of inserting Star Trek images into Civil War history articles (now that would be impressive!). Of course I'd be happy to take a look and see what I can do. And thank you for your comments at Talk:Feminism in Russia – much appreciated! Accedie^{talk to me} 18:43, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

When I saw your edit summary here, I thought you were talking about the article itself--I was like, hey, don't be so negative :) Mark Arsten (talk) 03:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, oops, sorry – didn't mean it that way! Of course the article will pass FAC. I have full faith in you :) Accedie^{talk to me} 05:20, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I fixed teh fac nits ;) Br'er Rabbit (talk) 04:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Feminism in Russia

Hello! Your submission of Feminism in Russia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Secretlondon (talk) 00:40, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Paul McCartney FAC

You were referred to me by User:Mark Arsten as someone who certainly has the skills needed, and who may be willing to help out with some prose and punctuation issues at Paul McCartney, which is also currently at FAC. Thanks, hope this isn't a bother. ~ GabeMc (talk) 04:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gabe – sure, I'd be happy to help out! I probably won't have time to get to this till tomorrow night or Saturday, though, if that's okay. Good luck with all the FAC stuff! Don't forget to sleep :-P Accedie^{talk to me} 05:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks much for your help! ~ GabeMc (talk) 03:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help. I think by "has the skills needed," Mark meant "comma Nazi" ;) because otherwise it's really well-written and polished already! Accedie^{talk to me} 03:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I hope that, when you can find the time, and after you have looked over the article, you can also find time to !vote, whichever way that may be. Thanks again for all the punctuation help! ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:19, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, today User:DCGeist, made a comment at the FAC claiming that the article currently has poor comma usage. I'm baffled. Any thoughts? Suggestions? ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Happy to help out – I actually haven't had as much time to go through it as I would have liked, because I'm on vacation with family and stealing bits of Internet where I can :-/

As for the commas, I noticed that in the sections I worked through, I was correcting a lot of extra commas that were separating two or more dependent clauses. For example, in a sentence like, "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog and ran down the road," you don't need a comma to separate "jumped over the lazy dog" and "ran down the road," but if the two clauses can stand apart as complete sentences (e.g., "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog, and he ran down the road," where "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" and "He ran down the road" can each be their own sentence with their own subject and verb), you do need the comma. Just one of those grammar rules that confuses everyone. I'll try to comb through and tidy those up when I can! Accedie^{talk to me} 01:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks fo the tip, and the edits. I am really getting hammered at the FAC. I am about done I think. ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:49, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to hear :( What I really don't get about FAC (and why I'll probably never try to go through it myself) is the detailed reviews pointing out the 23492352 grammar & spelling mistakes in the article... when it would have probably taken the reviewer less time to just fix those issues themselves. That just makes me angry. What ever happened to WP:BOLD and WP:SOFIXIT? Anyway, hang in there! You've put a ton of work into this thing, and it looks so much better now than it did before! Accedie^{talk to me} 01:56, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, then they ride you for weeks on end while never intending to support no matter what you do. Thanks for the help editing. I've ordered a copy of the Chicago MoS and the MLA, so hopefully I will be more empowered in the future to fix these issues, and I will need less help. ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:37, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Take a look when you get a chance. The article is much improved since you last saw it. Its been copyedited from top to bottom inside and out by someone from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. Please try to find the time to take a look, and !vote. Thanks ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 09:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

• I fixed a few tiny remaining things & !voted :) – thanks for your patience and tireless effort to bring this through the gauntlet! You FAC nominations never cease to amaze me. Accedie^{talk to me} 18:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help and support! ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's Luncheon at Wikimania 2012

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Copyedit request

Seeing how Mark trusts your copyediting skills, could you give ? a pre-FAC lookover? Not too long, only 14k characters or so. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Any friend of Mark's is a friend of mine :) I'd be happy to, with the caveat that I'm living out of a suitcase and hopping from one Internet hotspot to another for the next two weeks, so my Wikipedia time is a bit haphazard at the mo. Accedie^{talk to me} 01:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Don't worry, there's no big hurry. The FAC for Chinese Indonesians is stagnant ATM. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:07, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

•  Done for now. Nice article (and awesome title, of course). It was already pretty well-written overall, though there were a couple of spots in the plot summary and Themes and style sections that were somewhat ambiguous – what denomination is the church that's bombed, and does Soleh survive or not (unclear)? Irwansyah writes that Bramantyo intends for viewers to think of the religious conflicts that happen daily, and how to deal with differences in culture and beliefs, while Bramantyo has called it his own personal interpretation... ...does the last clause mean "Bramantyo has called it [Irwansyah's review] his own [Irwansyah's] personal interpretation" or "B has called it [the film] his own [B's] personal interpretation"? Those pronoun/antecedent shuffles can be deadly! Accedie^{talk to me} 21:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the copyedit! I fixed a small mistake you made (changed the wording, but didn't get rid of the parentheses). I also fixed the stuff you indicated. (Pretty good film, although you'd probably have a hard time getting a hand on the DVD; subtitles have decent English as well). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

• BTW, thanks for all your help on Marshall Applewhite, much appreciated. I think it's almost FAC ready. I had another copyeditor go over it today (he picked it up from the GOCEreq page) and he made a few changes I disagreed with so I ended up reverting a bit of it. Hopefully I didn't take out any of your's at the same time, it's tough when there are intervening good and bad edits and you have to sort through it. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Feminism in Russia

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Sgt. Pepper straw poll

There is currently a straw poll taking place here. Your input would be appreciated. ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania

Really excited for Wikimania. Me and my mom are leaving for D.C. tonight. Looking forward to seeing you!—Yutsi ^Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 18:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

"The/the" request for formal mediation

FYI, I have requested formal mediation here to decide the "The/the" issue, hopefully once and for all. Feel free to add your name there if you so wish. ~ GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter

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Translation

Likewise. Please add yourself as a language lead to the table here. [1] And if you could also email me and I will put you in contact with the group doing the translation. Also if you could sign up to this google group [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your talk page please reply on mine) 23:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh wow, you speak Ukrainian? Thanks for working with James. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania Barnstar

	Wikimania Barnstar
	It was great to meet you at Wikimania 2012! --evrik (talk) 14:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I second the barnstar and replied to you here. Doing A/B testing of templates is horrible work for volunteers and those welcome templates have long needed thoughtful consideration, so thanks for recognizing that and making it happen. I think the warning templates also need work and if you move to those I would like to participate in talks about them as well. My view is that vandalism is good because it is a route by means of which new users may be engaged, and I would like to see an integration to some extent of welcome and warning processes as they are both initial contacts. Say what's up to Steven for me. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

An illustrative point

Last week I made joke about editing when it doesn't bother me. This is a case in point. The images on this article have been static for the last five years.

• Bicycle Race - File:Queen Bicycle Race2.png
• Jazz (Queen album) - File:Queen Bicycle Race cover.jpg

Today someone decides to remove the images because of concerns about fair use. I restore the images to the articles and ask the editor to talk it out. At the same time the other editor elevates the issue by posting the two images above to Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 July 17. Is this a big thing? No. Is it a great and weighty matter? No. Is it a source of conflict? Yes. Multiply this a few times and its the kind of thing that drives people away. Fix the way fair use images are dealt with and a great source of conflict could be eliminated. Thanks for listening. --evrik ^(talk) 20:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thought you might be interested...

Hey, I just started this article: Feminism in Italy; but I dunno if I'll have time for much expansion. Can you lend a hand? there are plenty of great references! Cheers, SPat ^talk 01:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Sweet! I'll add to it when I have a spare sec :) Accedie^{talk to me} 19:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July drive wrap-up

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Hey

Hi Accedie, thanks for your help with Marshall Applewhite a few weeks back, it passed as an FA in what may have been the easiest and quickest FAC ever. I thought I'd mention my new project while I'm here: I just expanded Ruth Norman. She's similar to Applewhite in some ways, except she was a harmless lady who never poisoned or castrated anyone. Help copyediting would be greatly appreciated, but if you don't have time, be sure to do an image search for her--she was quite the fancy dresser. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Holy bouffants and scepters, Batman!! At least one of those images better be CC licensed or fair use at the very least. Fingers crossed.

Marshall must have been a quick FAC because everyone was too busy reaming you on RfA. Oh wait, except the opposite of that ;) Of course, I'll be happy to give Ruth a looking over. Accedie^{talk to me} 16:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, between the promotion and the Rfa pretty much everything went well then. Hopefully things stay that way for a while. I'll probably go for a fair use image, but it's hard to pick. _{P.S. Quite the mess on ANI tonight, things seem to have settled down by now though.} Mark Arsten (talk) 03:59, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Unlike Aunt Martha and Aunt Abby. Uriel's a hoot. There are videos out there:

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBjBcJdPAM
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4WJ55BYKo

Br'er Rabbit (talk) 04:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Gahh, still no time to edit :-/ Hopefully later this week and definitely this weekend. I'm going to lock myself in my house until I get through my todo list! Accedie^{talk to me} 21:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I saw you there on my watchlist ;) Br'er Rabbit (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the copyedit on Ruth Norman, great work, as usual. The article is coming along well, I think. I'm always amazed at the things I miss when I try to edit my own writing :) I just watched one of your talks from Wikimania (saw the link on Ironholds' page). That was a fascinating session, would have been great to be there. I had seen pictures of you and Stephen, but everyone else on the panel looked and sounded nothing like I expected. Funny how that happens! Mark Arsten (talk) 04:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh wow, I didn't realize those talks were up on the web already! Ha, yeah, that was a really great session, and I was definitely thinking of you when I mentioned the whole social connections/community-building onwiki thing. Folks like you and Crisco aren't just awesome content contributors; you're general all-around nice people, and you inspire me to be a better Wikipedian :) If only we could clone you and spread you around to every new person coming in! Editor retention problem = solved.

Anyway, happy to help with Uriel, and let me know if you need any more assistance in getting her to the Next Level^(tm).Accedie^{talk to me} 06:13, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

And we all know who the {{sfn}} reference was directed toward ;) Accedie^{talk to me} 06:21, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

• Indeed, great guy. I'll be trying to go to Hong Kong next year (easier to get a travel grant when its so close, methinks) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I watched it, too (viewer 7;) and mentioned it. The term I've used for what you're getting at there is it takes a village. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 10:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate that. Whenever I get irritated with things here I try to remind myself of the great people here, like Brian Boulton and Wehwalt among many others, including those in this thread, of course. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

GA Nomination

You recently nominated Feminism in Russia at WP:GAN. While the article shows promise, the [citation needed] tag in the "Feminism in Soviet society" will have to be resolved before it can be passed as a Good Article. Per WP:CITE, all quotations should be accompanied by a citation. maclean (talk) 01:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

• Should probably be pretty easy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, good catch! I didn't add that quote to the article and didn't notice it was missing a ref, so I'll have a look and see if I can track it down. I've substituted in a different quote/ref for now and am also going to add the appropriate citation to Smith for that Soviet anecdote, which appears to be missing a ref also. Accedie^{talk to me} 01:47, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done - I think the new quote I found is better, actually :) Accedie^{talk to me} 01:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

And I see it passed. Congratulations. I'm glad you took on the new citation mechanism. It will serve you well. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The Call of the Wild && White Fang

I doubt you've missed these stories. See

• User talk:Br'er Rabbit#Building bridges

and skip right over the drama-llama bits. These are going to be getting some attention and I hope you can spare some time to participate. The simple version of this is TK is a user I've had disagreements with and this might damp-down the llama. If you do want to peek at the immense llama in the room, see here (and then flee for your life;).

I was User:The Call of the Wild for a bit and that user page design is an adaptation of {{new user bar}} which originates in an outreach program you may know. and you know about their promoting interest in snakes, right? Over 8,000 users, it seems. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

GOCE news and September drive invitation

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events: The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best August copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC). September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit the articles tagged longest ago and to complete all requests placed before the end of August. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top six in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". This drive features a much easier signup process. We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 18:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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in line citations on Kim Annette Robertson page

Thanks for your help Accedie. I'm stumbling through this. I am hoping you can help me make my corrections. Ms. Robertson live here in my town and we are very proud to have an Olympic level athelete in our midst. I have interviewed Ms. Robertson and this is were I have obtained the information about her life and sport.

Creating this page about her has been trial and error. I have know idea what I am doing and I must read and read to figure out the formatting process or what ever you call it. I am a computer and Wikipedia dummy. I feel she is worthy of being on Wikipedia and would like to make the page right. I hope you may help me. Thanks so much. Lockehistorian--Lockehistorian (talk) 02:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar

Hi Accedie (Maryana)! I wanted to thank you for the great and important work you have done both on Wikipedia and at the Wikimedia Foundation! It's because of editors like you that make Wikipedia an awesome place to be by giving your time and helping in various ways which makes you a true Asset to the project . I wish you all the best for your future work and life! Hope to see you around soon :) Regards and Happy Editing! TheGeneralUser (talk) 18:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

• Aw, thank you so much! What a nice surprise :) Accedie^{talk to me} 06:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

If there was another appropriate and better barnstar or award i know that i could give it to you, I would have done that indeed because a nice and awesome Wikipedian like you deserves the best for all of your good work you do for the community! :) TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Bagatayam Waterfall

Hi Accedie :). Hope you're doing good! I recently came around this article Bagatayam Waterfall and i think it currently does not meet the basic minimum requirements for a Wikipedia:Stub. The article only has a external link to flicker website of a picture and a external map link. There are no other reliable sources and references. If possible can you have a look at it and see what can be eventually done ? I believe your help will be invaluable . Regards. TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:18, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

It looks like User:Yngvadottir cleaned it up and added some references, so it's in decent shape for a stub now. I tagged it with the WikiProject Philippines assessment template, so hopefully some of the folks from there will come in and expand/improve it :) Accedie^{talk to me} 02:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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Peter Meyer tells me my ears should be burning...

How was Wikisym? Protonk (talk) 17:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Haha, yeah, I used your userpage in my slide deck to illustrate the quantitative "author metric" (GA & FA stars) in action. That's what you get for publishing under a CC license :)

WikiSym was good! You should've submitted your AFT talk; would've fit right in. It'll be colocated with Wikimania in Hong Kong next year, so you should definitely consider submitting a paper. Accedie^{talk to me} 20:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll submit a paper and talk for next year. Just need the rest of the v4 data. already poked Siko about it. Do me a favor and bother some folks on my behalf! :) Protonk (talk) 02:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for that, I will keep adding and upgrading my Article's, Im aiming to have every Article up for all Organized Crime Organizations.

JoeyZasa11 (talk) 23:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Very cool! You should join WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography. I bet some of the people there might be able to help you out with these articles. Ciao, Accedie^{talk to me} 23:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

How exactly do you join it? Shall I need to write to a member of it.

JoeyZasa11 (talk) 23:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Nope, you can just go here to the members list and sign your name at the bottom (like you do on talk pages, with the ~~~~). You can also add this template: {{User CB}} to your userpage, which will produce a nice userbox :) Feel free to use the WikiProject's talk page to ask any questions you may have about crime-related articles. And if you need help with editing in general, the Teahouse is a great place to get help from other Wikipedians. Good luck and happy editing! Accedie^{talk to me} 23:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow, I didnt realise it was that easy, I thought you needed approval. Thank you, Have a great week! Salute.

JoeyZasa11 (talk) 23:39, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Spock...

is not here. Could I pester you to take a look at Andjar Asmara in preparation for an FAC nom after Oerip Soemohardjo is done? Couldn't find much biographical information on him, so it's quite short. Regarding the feminism GA, you may find yourself interested in Andjar's wife. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

There is a very offcolor joke to be made here about Spock and teasing, but I'm going to keep this talk page classy! Sure, I'll take a look. Happy to help out if I can. Accedie^{talk to me} 21:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I took a pass & did a little prose prettifying. The word "work(s)" is hard to avoid in any discussion of a dramatist/filmmaker, but I'd recommend being specific when possible to avoid overusing it. Also, "Andjar was born with the name Abisin Abbas..." sounds a bit awkward to me. How about just: "Was born Abisin Abbas..."? Other than that, a good read! I'll definitely have to take a look at Ratna Asmara now, too :) Accedie^{talk to me} 21:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. Shame there aren't enough sources on her to get her article to GA or FA. The Indonesian Wikipedia doesn't even have an article on her :-S — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Norman

Thanks for your help on Ruth Norman, it is now a featured article! Mark Arsten (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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Copyedit?

Hi Accedie, I'm trying to get meth mouth up to featured status, and I would love if you could do any copyediting. Feel free to ask for a favor in return, thanks Mark Arsten (talk) 17:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

1) Congrats on Ruth Norman! 2) Eeeeewwwwww, that picture! I might have to copy the article into a text editor and work from there, just so I don't have to look at it :-/ I'll take a stab, though (... which would be a good pun if this were a heroin-related article. "I'll take a hit?" Doesn't quite work.) Accedie^{talk to me} 02:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, it's terrifying. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
• lol, thanks for putting up with me and my bizarre interests :) The good thing about this article is that it always reminds me to brush my teeth (and not do meth). I appreciate the copyedits to the article, it's fairly short so it will need to be very polished at FAC. I've got a guy from the medicine wikiproject doing a PR, so hopefully the science end of it will hold up too. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's hard to do a thorough copyediting job without knowing the proper science lingo. I can, however, really help you out should you ever choose to work on anything parasitology related. I worked for a parasitologist as a summer job in college (I collected ticks in the backwoods of Mississippi; that's how I came to write Tick dragging) So, I'm not thaaat squeamish :) Accedie^{talk to me} 04:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Andjar Asmara

Thanks for the copyedit. The article passed FAC, which is nice to see; this is easily my shortest FA so far. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Gah, and my longest lag in talk page response time! Congrats! Love seeing more culture & film articles reach FA; I work in technology, but I'm a humanist at heart :) Accedie^{talk to me} 22:48, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

• LOL, I even forgot I had posted here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

will.i.am

So, do all WMF staff members get to hang out with will.i.am, or is it just Jimbo that does? Mark Arsten (talk) 02:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I did some work with WikiMedia Indonesia and I met John McGlynn... once. Damn camera's batteries were dead. The big honcho gets to hang out (read: meet) with Ucu Agustin. Nia Dinata, and Christian Sugiono as well. Ah... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:58, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
  • But have you met Fred Burks? He seems like an interesting fellow, knows a lot about translating Indonesian too. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
    • No, actually. Mind you, that link you sent me isn't working. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
• Jimmy's not staff! He's on the Board, which is a separate entity from the Foundation :) The only cool star sighting I can claim so far is Richard Dawkins, who showed up to the tenth anniversay party in London that I happened to attend. (Of course I was too much of a wuss to actually talk to the guy.) It's not all glitz and glamor, I'm afraid. Accedie^{talk to me} 16:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Huh, I didn't realize that about the board and the foundation... interesting. That's pretty cool that Dawkins showed up at the party, I don't imagine that he's the most approachable fellow though. Oh, BTW, who keeps changing the edit box view? I find that kind of irritating, but I guess I'm just one of those change-resistant Wikipedians. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit box view – guilty (well, not me specifically, but one of our designers. Discussion about it here). Change is always a little jarring at first, but I'm pretty happy with the new cleaner presentation. We had countless new users telling us they couldn't even find the save button under all the policy cruft down there. Just wait till the visual editor comes out next year. That should be... interesting ;) Accedie^{talk to me} 21:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess it is a bit cleaner, no biggie. I hadn't thought of it that way. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:01, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Sinistar: Unleashed FAC

Hey! I'd like to ask you to take a look at this article, Sinistar: Unleashed and, if you can, give it a copyedit to polish and improve its prose :) Mark Arsten told me you were very good at it, so here I am asking for your help. Thanks! — ΛΧΣ21™ 17:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take a look and help out where I can. Stay tuned! Accedie^{talk to me} 21:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I took a stab at it. It's a solid article, though it seems a bit short for FA. But what do I know? :) Lemme know if you need any more help. Accedie^{talk to me} 22:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Aww thanks! :) I will let you know if i need something else. I really appreciate all the help :D — ΛΧΣ21™ 03:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Wondering if you could help me here

We have this article [3] translated by TWB. Wondering if it can replace what is their or if you can integrate it? Please leave me a note regarding what could work. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

This article could also use some work http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%84%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D1%96%D1%82

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Another article is live

I replaced a previously unreferenced article with this one http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF Wondering if that is okay? Want to make sure nothing important was lost. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Also can you help fix the captions? Including adding one to the info box? You can compare it with the English version here Dengue fever. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

And another one here http://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%90%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B7%D1%96%D1%8F&stable=0

Wondering if I could get privileges for pending changes and not have to enter the capcha? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:59, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

If you could write something up I can send it out to the translators. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the help!

Just a small message to say thanks so much for copy editing my article and thanks for the compliment. When someone tagged it for copyediting I was afraid it wasn't up to standard but now you've checked it over and improved it, I'm pleased. I'll be sure to follow your advice. And you doubled my talk page, Yay! :] Much appreciated - Earl Moss (talk) 18:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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