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Copyright violation at Individuals with Disabilities Education Act‎

Why did you restore this blatant copyright violation? ElKevbo (talk) 16:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Pyromaniac

He's violated 3RR now, so just wait until he's blocked and then I'll revert it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Quit removing the DC United preseason

It has relevant links, and information, other MLS teams have this information posted. You're weakening the article. Quit reverting the edits. 72.219.227.230 (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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Oliver Ivanović

Well sure we can write an article about him, he is some kind of a Serbian politician/spokesperson from Kosovo. He is most certainly not Albanian, he speaks against Kosovo independence in the name of Serbs who live down there, that's his role. Btw there is that one user coming out of nowhere with an idea to erase half of the article, you can see his post on my talk page, please be on alert I don't know if he will be stubborn with this attempt to destroy our hard work or not. We really need the article to be stable now when the ICJ is to give the ruling, I told him that overhauls that go against the consensus (he tried replacing the content for some countries with short "Planning to recognize" etc. even with places that have the opposite position and he chose the countries for summarization arbitrarily) are not something thar we want. All we need is shortening from time to time with countries that repeat themselves but even then we should try to keep the references and content, just instead of three lines saying "President said this, Prime Minister said this, FM said this" we can write in one sentence "President, Prime Minister and FM on several occasions stated that" but definitely not erase it all in a single sweep led by someone's whim and replace with a personal view of what this or that country thinks in one sentence. So please keep an eye for any major changes to the article.--Avala (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Well his ethnicity is certainly Serbian, both name and surname are so to say typical Serbian and definitely not Albanian. Serbian names are Slavic and Albanian names are either unique Albanian or typical Muslim so you can hardly find names that exist in both nations and mutual surnames simply do not exist. You are right, -ić is Serbian surname suffix, and has the same meaning as O' or Mc in Ireland and Scotland. I do see that he was in the "Republic of Kosovo" assembly - [1] but today he is the state secretary within the Ministry for Kosovo and Metohija in the Government of Serbia -[2] so I would guess that he is some kind of a double player. Yeah I definitely agree with an idea for semi-protection and perhaps a request for admins to keep an eye on the article for some major overhauls that we don't need at all. It will be a heavy decision, three hours of reading! I am not sure how will it look like, perhaps the majority of it will be an explanation but maybe we might have to wait for a few days to understand what is the actual decision (it's hard for me to believe that any court can bring a ruling that is ambigious as the court then surves no purpose, it should solve the issue and having an ambiguous decision definitely doesn't solve the issue for which the parties came to court, there can be no half-pregnant situation, courts don't say someone is both and guilty and not etc. but I do think that the ruling might be complex). Btw Serbian plan is to propose a resolution following the ruling within the General Assembly of the UN and the EU has offered to Serbia to join in writing. Anyway if you can file that request for semiprotection and watch I forgot where it goes, I will endorse.--Avala (talk) 19:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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ICJ verdict

moved here from User talk:IJA. If you address a user personally, do it in user talk space, not article talk space.

@ User:Dbachmann, no-one said it was a vote. This is just building consensus and supporting and disagreeing with proposals. A dissertation isn't need to explain why one supports or disagrees with a proposal. Also I think it was really out of order when you referred to the IPs as "a pile of Albanian patriot IP addresses"; please be more WP:CIVIL. How do you know that they're Albanian? For your information the two different IPs addresses are based in Germany. Also please do us all a favour and stop implying that your opinion is more important than everyone else's. Our opinions are all equal here on Wikipedia regardless if you're an IP or an admin. Cheers IJA (talk) 10:19, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
All I was saying that it is useless to just add "I agree", especially when logged out. We already know that all Albanians vote "I agree", and all Serbs vote "I disagree". This isn't an exercise in seeing how many of each group watch this page. Our opinions on political questions are indeed all equal here, namely, they are irrelevant. If it hadn't been for the intervention of myself and other neutral editors, this page would just have turned into an all out ethnic flamewar years ago. This edit confirms my supposition that the IPs were just the returning Germany-based Albanian troll who has plagued this talkpage in the past.
This is supposed to be a detached discussion on how the ICJ verdict affects this article. I have already said that I do not have a fixed opinion, and that I see two possible courses of action, so I don't see why you are trying to set me up for WP:OWN. If you have a contribution to make to this discussion, please make it. If you are just here to make the case that "we are all equal", and that logged out trolling is equivalent to bona fide discussion among veteran editors with a full grasp of precedents and conventions, you are sorely mistaken. This is definitely not how Wikipedia works, in spite of the "anyone can edit" moniker. --dab (𒁳) 12:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I also think your edit was a bit premature. You do realize, I hope, that the 92.74... IPs are returning trolls with a long history of disrupting this talkpage, not some bona fide anonymous editor? --dab (𒁳) 13:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. I'm not sure if you remember me, but back in February 2009, you suggested that I become a candidate for adminship at RfA. I have since gained more experience both here and on other wikis, and am now: effectively a Checkuser, Helper, Oversighter, Bureaucrat, and Administrator on the Test Wiki; a Bureaucrat and Administrator on WiccaPedia, on The Test Wiki, and on the Admin Tools Wiki; and an Administrator on Test Wikipedia, on the English Wikimedia Labs Wiki, on the Wikimedia Labs Flagged Revisions Test Wiki, and on the Wikimedia Labs LiquidThreads Test Wiki. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at User:Jeff G./Admin coaching, User:Jeff G./Coaching, and their talk pages. Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 04:26, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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List of countries by number of troops

This is not IISSpedia, but I think that institution is more reliable than a Serbian newspaper. There are many other reliable sources that you can use, as the official website of the Kosovo Security Force, the CIA Factbook, UN reports, other think tanks, etc. However I have not canceled your revision, but with many doubts. Bye. ;-) --Enok (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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Persian Gulf naming

Hi, Ian; you say that if the entry "were about Iran, then you would refer to it as Persian Gulf", but now that it isn't you won't. please understand the name of a geographic area is not for different people to choose what to call it. imagine the americans waking up one morning and suddenly deciding "hey, how about we call it the Gulf of USA instead of the Gulf of Mexico? ... just for kicks !!!" should the rest (or some of the rest) of the world follow suit? judging by your profile, you are an educated person ... please do some research ... at the very least, do read the Persian Gulf naming dispute on Wikipedia ... it will tell you lots. Thanks, Ian. Regards, Kamran (the Great) ;)

PS. LOL @ This user does not understand American English and doesn't bloody well want to :)) Kamran the Great (talk) 10:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

in response

Ian; thanks for your understanding, and i do have to agree with you on the organization name. I would, however, wish to maintain that the name of the Persian Gulf is not really, officially, a matter of any dispute... it is quite clear what it has been, is and should be called for millenia. The other incorrect term is not merely "another name" for the Persian Gulf, but rather a politically-charged move which I am sure you have read about.

using the term "arabian gulf" is in direct violation of the directives and decisions of the United Nations. Note the Editorial Directive (ST/CS/SER.A/29/Add.2) issued by the Office of the Secretariat of the United Nations on August 18, 1994 regarding UN Editorial Directive ST/CS-SER.A/29. The Editorial Directive (ST/CS/SER.A/29/Add.2 makes clear that: Attention is once again drawn to Editoral Directive ST/CS-SER.A/29 and Corr.1 and Add.1 on the use of the term “Persian Gulf”. The purpose of the present addendum is to urge that care be taken to ensure the appropriate use of this term in documents, publications and statements prepared by the Secretariat. The full term “Persian Gulf” should be used in every case instead of the shorter term “Gulf” , including in repetitions of the term after its initial use in a text.

but i should stop boring you here!

PS. i'm Persian, but i speak American English ... sorry !!

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False consensus

This definition is the only one we should follow. And stop being rude to me, that is not welcome, and i will not allow that. All best, my friend. :) --WhiteWriter speaks 19:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, one more time:
  1. Proposition was to merge two infoboxes in one out of 3, and not to completely remove 2, and leave only one.
  2. Therefor, vote was mislead, and one more time, WP:NOTDEMOCRATY.
  3. Discussion lasted only 26 hours. That is waaay to little for such important articles under probation.
  4. Per this, after your edit, people disagreed with that edit edit. So, your "consensus was questioned, and therefor, it was still in process. That is because it was implemented to swiftly, and because none offered ANY compromise, and therefor, probably failed few of those...
  5. When we questioned all of this, you didn't participated. When we asked for a solution, or when we asked a question about this problems, and neutrality and few other important question's, you didn't answered. After other neutral solutions in RfC, that are not nationalistically driven, and after all of those people asked for status quo again, in clear wish to start again with regular, correct wiki way, and you and Zjarri are the only one who disagree, without any reason or argument then "I know the best, and my way is the best way", then i really dont know what to do next. Once more, instead teaching me google definitions, go to Kosovo talk page, and discuss with us, OPEN TO COMPROMISE, as we all will, and only then, we will find solution. --WhiteWriter speaks 20:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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Southern Sudan

Hi. It seems we are up ahead a new intl recognition article. Do you think things will go smoothly or not?--Avala (talk) 21:59, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Yeah Southern Sudan seems to be similar to Montenegro, although a lot of things could happen, especially regarding that Abyei region, the status of which is unclear (whether it goes north, south or on its own way). As you said, we'll see. Yeah I know Mateja Kežman, he played really well in the Netherlands but he has some sort of an attitude for which he is no longer invited to play for the national team. Anyway he showed this bad attitude only in the national team so Sheffield will certainly benefit from him. He is not in the same class as Vidić but he should be a good addition. Cheers --Avala (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

YO

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Marcel Rosenberg

No worries. I actually didn't look into the matter in detail, so please don't take it as an accusation - I was really wanting to balance my criticism of the IP more than anything. The diff did look POV, but if you copied it from elsewhere - although you shouldn't, and particularly not from Metapedia, it seems - that explains it. Cheers. --FormerIP (talk) 02:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Cut and copy additions

Hi I saw your comment here - that you had cut and copied content into wikipedia from other sources, I see you have been here three years - is that something you have done before with your additions to articles? Off2riorob (talk) 14:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

No IJA (talk) 19:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Not sure, just let me know if you don't want to discuss this - So what made you suddenly think it was within policy ? Off2riorob (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
To be honest I was ignorant in knowing if it was policy or not, it is not something I I've done before. As I said I was in the middle of uni work and I just C+P it for a basic article, then I was going to come back and edit it properly at a later date when I had some time on my hands. I just wanted to use it as a basis then contribute to the article later in more depth. Also like I said I had never heard of Metapedia before then, I had no idea that it was a White Nationalist site. But normally I wouldn't C+P anything unless I was referencing it on an article. The whole incident was rather embarrassing as I now know what I did was wrong, then there was being labelled as a "fascist" which isn't a pleasant thing to be called. To be honest I'd rather just forget about the whole issue now that it is has been resolved. Regards IJA (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, thanks for your open comments, your clarification at least saves me the time and tedium of going over your contributions, everyone makes mistakes and often in good faith so , don't take it to heart, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Just fix

In your neighbor - neighbour edit on Kosovo article, you accidentally removed some tags and redirects, and one paragraph that was already presented on other article. It probably happened as wiki linked few edits in a row. Please, just fix that. Thanks in advance! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 19:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I know, that is so annoying, really don't understand why you cannot just edit or revert one edit without entire row. Well, we should send a angry letter to Jimbo! :) All best, man. --WhiteWriter speaks 21:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


Belgrade-Pristina negotiations

 
All best, for a start of great understanding and cooperation, with music and sugar! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 22:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Is there an article for them? If not I propose the creation of such an article. IJA (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Hm there must be one for the pre-2008 negotiations so I propose the expansion of that one as the current negotiations are rather low profile.--Avala (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Sure, IJA, that is great idea! I am for Belgrade-Pristina negotiations title, as that was the moooost common name for that political situation in the media. You can surely start it, i will participate. Today is a bit of a mess day, so maybe tomorrow... :) --WhiteWriter speaks 09:56, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I have proposed deletion in the talk page. As I explained it needs to be in Serbia's reaction to Kosovo's independence page. If that somehow doesn't suit you perhaps a page like Kosovo-Serbia relations which I'm sure exists as well. BTW I'm surprised avala is still alive. Took 3 years for a freaking split, I might now reconsider editing wp again. --Ari —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.82.3 (talk) 18:17, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Great, man! Lets from now on edit only in this way! With great understanding and cooperation! I am happy! :) Here you are! Cake made in Serbia! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 22:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, B92 is known in Serbia as media company that tries to be neutral in any situation, sometimes you really can find interesting stuff there! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 12:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

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Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Wikipedia notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; in this year alone about 40 threads have been started on our discussion page, and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised.

In addition to a lively encyclopedic, Poland-related, English-language discussion forum, we have numerous useful tools that can be of use to you - and that you could help us maintain and develop:

This is not all; on our page you can find a list of useful templates (including userboxes), awards and other tools!

With all that said, how about you join our discussions at WT:POLAND? Surely, there must be something you could help others with, or perhaps you are in need of assistance yourself?

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Manchester wikimeet in June

Hello. The next Manchester wikimeet will be sometime in June (date TBD) - would you be interested in coming? See Wikipedia:Meetup/Manchester 8 for details. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:07, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

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Manchester Wikimeetup

Hey Ian, I noticed that you've put a maybe on the Manchester Wikimeetup attendees list. I've gone for a maybe too. How likely is it that you'll be going? (Oh and congrats on the degree too.) Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Nice one, sounds like we have a plan. I'll be arriving into Picadilly station which is on the opposite side of town from Victoria. I think the Waterhouse is about half-way between the two stations, so that's probably the best place to meet. My train gets in at 12.09 or 12.41 - I was planning on getting the later one and going straight to the pub, but if you really want I could get the earlier one and find you somewhere else. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


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Manchester wikimeets

Hi IJA; it was good to meet you at the last Manchester wikimeet. The next one is scheduled for 17 September; I've set up a page on meta about it at meta:Meetup/Manchester - please sign up if you're coming. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)