Talk:War guilt question

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mathglot in topic Launch prep

In-links and redirects edit

Possible in-links edit

In-link checklist

The following articles might be worth looking at as possible in-links to this article, after release to mainspace.

Mathglot (talk) 12:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Others

Redirects needed edit

Mathglot (talk) 10:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

About the title edit

Q: Why is this article called "War guilt question", when every other Wikipedia calls it the same thing, after the German word for it?

A: Because a careful search of books and other reliable sources in English, shows that the English phrase is the more common one in English sources. Sources generally do mention the German word from which the English calque is derived, but then they use the English expression, or after the first time, a shortened version of it ("the question", "the issue", etc.). There are some English sources that do use the German word throughout, but they are a minority.

Q: What about the capitalization? Why not, "War Guilt Question"?

A: Same as above. Mathglot (talk) 10:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

It also has other names in English, including: war guilt thesis, question of German guilt, question of German war guilt, and war guilt problem. But some are just elegant variation, and none are as common in English as "war guilt question", which started to appear almost immediately, for example in 1920,[1] and 1930.[2]

References

  1. ^ Tardieu, Andre (1920). Eliakim Littell; Robert S. Littell (eds.). "France and Great Britain (from: [L'Illustration (Illustrated Literary Weekly) April 17])". The Living Age... Vol. 8. Boston: Littell, Son and Company. p. 567.
  2. ^ Koch-Weser, Erich (1930). Germany in the Post-war World. Philadelphia: Dorrance, Incorporated. p. 213. OCLC 24973903.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathglot (talkcontribs) 00:07, 20 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Section structure of foreign Featured articles edit

Two articles on foreign Wikipedias have "Featured article" status: the French article, and the German article. (Note that they have the same name; the French article borrowed the German word as the title, because that's what reliable sources in French do.) Details on the section structure of these two articles follows. Mathglot (talk) 00:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The section structure of the French Featured Article fr:Kriegsschuldfrage with translated section headers can be viewed in its entirety at User:Mathglot/sandbox/War guilt question/French article sections. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 02:23, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Here is the section organization from rev 202268988 of the German Featured Article de:Kriesgsschuldfrage, translated into English. It can be viewed at User:Mathglot/sandbox/War guilt question/German article sections. Mathglot (talk) 03:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Launch prep edit

Checklist of tasks for draft prep before and at launch
  •   Complete initial translations.
  •   Mark expansion possibilities where only partly translated. (indicate useful, underutilized sources)
  •   Brief intro paragraphs for #In the Weimar Republic, #Treaty of Versailles, #Reactions, #In other countries, #Post World War II.
  •   Section #Dealing with the issue and responsibilities: not clear what the unifying theme is of this H3; also, needs intro para. Mathglot (talk) 21:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
  •   Section retitling and re-org – some of the section headers are far from ideal (blame the French article), and the overall section structure could be improved.
  •   Start adding more English sources to the #Sources section, so they can be used to supplement, or in some cases replace, French or German sources if the English sources are as good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathglot (talkcontribs) 22:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  •   Pre-release: check {{Further}} templates with fr/de links, and possibly convert to {{Expand French}} or German. Mathglot (talk) 20:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  •   check Sfn linkage
  •   Section Further reading: translate untranslated bits (month names, etc.), drop fr templates ('numero', etc)
  •   Watch for efn notes > 26 which generate 2-letter bracketed superscript [aa], [ab], etc, when they are adjacent to {{ill}}s
  •   Draft categories
  •   Draft cruft at top
  •   Section top links: {{Main}}, {{Further}}, Further ill; ill's in line..

Mathglot (talk) 22:30, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Launched to main space. Only two article in-links currently; need to provide more. Mathglot (talk) 04:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply