Talk:WTXF-TV

"Fox" or "FOX"?

I noticed some revert wars regarding the Fox branding on several articles on Fox-owned stations. The official name of the network is not all uppercase, but that is how the company prefers it.

So, do we call it "Fox" or "FOX"? You decide. CoolKatt number 99999 02:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

See my response at Talk:WNYW. Rollosmokes 07:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

WTXF and TV-Ark

TV-Ark uses a strange code. The main page URL is always displayed in the address bar, but the actual pages are at different URLs.

http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/ is what will be displayed at the WTXF page, but... http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/international/us_fox_wtxf.html is the actual page.

The edit I did improved the accessibility. In short, in spite of a wacky code, I pointed the TV-Ark page to the actual page. -Tracker 19:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merger of WTXF-TV Personalities

I came across WTXF-TV Personalities during new page patrol. It seems like listcruft to have it alone like that, so I'm proposing it be merged into this article. This is in line with the relevant wikiproject's standards for TV personalities. --Chaser T 04:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• There are personalities pages for the other Philadelphia stations with the stations on-air personalities bios on them. It will wind up being expanded. Kramden4700 20:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• I agree that it will be expanded. The WCAU Personalities page was the same way and look at it now. Tazz765 20:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed the merge tags.--Chaser T 20:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

George Mallet

Um... the links direct to a Carribean politician. I've removed the ones I see. --Adam Fisher-Cox (criticize or compliment) 04:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Screengrab is incorrect

The screengrab for the 5pm news is not from the WTXF launch... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.145.244.194 (talk) 22:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC).

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Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material

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Dave Huddleston

When I entered "Dave Huddleston" into the search bar, Wikipedia directed me to this article. Mr. Huddleston is now the Sunday night 11 PM anchor at KYW-TV in Philadelphia and the weekday 10 PM anchor at KYW's sister station, WPSG-TV for their Eyewitness News on CW57 show. He joined CBS Philadelphia in November 2008. Shouldn't the search bar redirect me to that station's article instead? Bill S. (talk) 20:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

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Jim Cutler

The new voiceover of WTXF-TV Fox Channel 29 in Philly.

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MGM/UA Premiere Network

If you want proof that Fox 29 used to air MGM/UA movies, watch this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vd5mKB2mpY. RevinCBHatol (talk) 05:05, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:WTXF-TV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 22:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Prose satisfies GA standards.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	No issues.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	I reviewed the matches over 10% found using Earwig's Copyvio detector. No concerns - matches are attributed quotes, titles, and phrases acceptable per WP:LIMITED such as "former Fox executive Preston Padden". No issues found during spot checks.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Appears from the article's structure and content that the main aspects are covered; I have no basis to doubt this.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Level of detail seems appropriate for a GA.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	No issues found.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	There were a few reverted edits several months ago. No evidence of edit warring.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Original link to the Kaufman image is dead, but no reason not to assume good faith on it being PD. Building image is CC. The logo is marked as PD on the basis that it "consists only of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection" which seems reasonable.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Images are relevant. I think it's pretty obvious who Kaufman is in the picture, so am not suggesting that the caption give more details (like "seated right"). It's unfortunate that we probably don't have a source to identify the presenters.
	7. Overall assessment.

Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my review comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@BennyOnTheLoose Everything handled. Found a second ref to bolster the late 1970s financial claims. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@BennyOnTheLoose Second tranche done. Notables need to have an article—and usually doing articles like this produces one or two AfDs of linked pages. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I really didn't have much to add during this review. I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria, so I'm pasing it. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Sources

• Great to have so many linked sources for readers (and reviewers!)
• I see from WP:RSP that there is no consensus on whether The Daily Beast is a reliable source. If other sources can be found to support that info then great, but I don't see the use of the source in this article as a blocker to GA status.

Spot checks

• WIP returned the permit in May 1954, finding that building and operating the proposed station would be economically infeasible. - no issues. "economically infeasible" appears in one source but I think is acceptable per WP:LIMITED.
• Its attempts to pick up a similarly unaired NBC show were rejected because the station could not broadcast it in color - no issues. You could maybe mention and link I'll Bet, although that article is unreferenced.
• WTAF-TV continued to lose money in its first years under Taft, but it slowly improved its ratings and financial position over the decade - I think this is a bit of an extrapolation for what I see on pages 42-43; unless there is another part of the article I've overlooked.

• I'm happy with this after the tweaking. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• most of channel 48's former program inventory was purchased by WPHL-TV - I didn't see this supported in the cited sources.

• The additional source supports this. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• Paramount strongly criticized Fox's plans to pull its affiliation. It warned, "All affiliates of Fox should take note of the level of loyalty and commitment Fox has exhibited. Apparently Fox's loyalty only recognizes the partnership nature of a network affiliate's relationship when it is convenient to Fox's own economic interest." - no issues.
• Mediaweek reported that another station executive found Fox lacking "its customary vigor" in trying to close the WGBS-TV deal - no issues.
• The FCC approved the deal in August 1995, as well as a waiver for Fox to own WTXF-TV and WNYW in New York City simultaneously - no issues.
• In July 2023, at WTXF-TV's routine eight-year license renewal, the Media and Democracy Project filed a petition ... Padden wrote, "...Fox has undermined our democracy and has radicalized a segment of our population by presenting knowingly false narratives about the legitimacy of the 2020 election. In my opinion, this type of reporting was a significant contributing factor to the riots in the Capitol on January 6, 2021." - no issues.
• the program's audience doubled in its first year on air - no issues.
• In 1999, Good Day Philadelphia was described by Ellen Gray of the Philadelphia Daily News as "chronically underperforming" in the ratings - no issues.
• In November 2008, after a trial between WCAU and WTXF, Fox Television Stations and NBC Local Media entered into an agreement to test a system that would allow stations owned by Fox and NBC to pool news resources ranging from sharing field video to sharing aerial helicopter footage, in an attempt to reduce costs - no issues.
• Previously, in 2020, an article in Philadelphia magazine spotlighted a conservative turn in senior management in news philosophy; the article, based on interviews with 10 current and former WTXF-TV staffers, described a newsroom that was "toxic", "racially offensive", and "socially intimidating" - no issues.

History

• Could add an nbsp in $200 million (i.e. $200 million)
• it was announced that the Phillies would move to channel 29 beginning in 1984 - feels to me like there should be an addition to specify that it was the coverage of the Phillies that would move, but if the current wording is usual in US English then no change required.
• the entire run of M*A*S*H, - I think M*A*S*H will probably be well-enough known by readers not to to need an intro, but I wonder if it might be worth including the point from the source that it was "a top syndicated show"?
• was hit with a contraction - maybe just "contracted"?
• what's the criteria for the list of Notable current on-air staff/Notable former on-air staff?
• The inclusion of later co-host of Fox & Friends Weekend seems a bit inconsistent with the other listed staff, but that may not be a problem.

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 13:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Fox bought a Philadelphia TV station started by a Fox? Source: "a Fox" is William Fox. [1] and Fox bought it 30 years later: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/122056705/murdoch-gets-ok-to-own-channel-29-fcc/
  • ALT1: ... that Taft Broadcasting bought a controlling stake in the Philadelphia Phillies baseball team to provide programming for its TV station there? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-philadelphia-inquirer-investment-in/122450447/
  • Reviewed: CSL Plasma and Full Personality Expression

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 679 past nominations.

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Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Lol. Checks out all criteria, and I love that first hook. Skyshiftertalk 20:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)