Talk:Shia villages in Palestine

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My edits have been erased a long with accredited sources. I would like to work on this page once again and add the proper sources and would like this page to have a non edit option. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebanese bebe (talk • contribs) 02:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

lebanese?!

this villages are full recognized internationally of being in Israel's side of the border. I think we need to change it, to the "the disptuted seven villages".84.228.106.228 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC).

And many parts of Israel are internationally recognized as being a part of Palestine. And many parts of the Golan are recognized as being internationally recognized as Syrian. Should we change those articles as disputed?? These villages are Lebanese on the basis that their citizens carried Lebanese nationality cards/passports before Palestinian and before Israeli. The Lebanese army defended the populations in some of these villages BECAUSE they are Lebanese territory.{cn|wrong, this territory passed from the Ottomans to French to Brits, then from Brits to Israel/Palestine (which the Palestinians no longer dispute). NO nations recognize the Lebanese claim to this land, and you merely exposed your own bias by stating Lebanon's position that "they are Lebanese territory" as though that is factual--rather than noting it is a claim UNRECOGNIZED by the rest of the world, i.e. FAR from an established fact, as you've just presented it as being. The CURRENT status of these people being Lebanese is true, but irrelevant because it makes those people (who are now EX-villagers) Lebanese, but does not make the villages themselves, "Lebanese."}} And today all Lebanese, the Arab world recognize them as Lebanese, including the Palestinian people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.243.155.150 (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Please discuss/nominate for deletion

These villages passed from Ottoman hands to French/British; Lebanon didn't even EXIST, so you will NEVER find a REPUTABLE source saying these were ever "Lebanese villages". Even clicking on each city named near the beginning of the article will show Wikipedians describing each of the villages as "Palestinian" villages NOT "Lebanese" villages (e.g. click on the Tarbikha article). So, please nominate this article to be either:

1. deleted (anyone who edits Wikipedia more often than me)

or

2. re-written to be similar to other WP articles e.g. those discussing 911 conspiracy theories IN TERMS OF BEING ONLY FRINGE "THEORIES" -- because the entire notion of these being "Lebanese villages" is a canard (historical revisionism) made by Lebanese Shia which they hope to use for political gain, and which no historian outside of Shiite loyalties/bias takes seriously, just as you'll never see "Scholars (mostly SOCIAL scientists) for 911 Truthiness" published in the journal of ASCE because they know they can't fool fellow engineers with their shoddy "research" "proving" controlled-demolition collapsed the WTC; for now Bentham Science Publishers -- click that link to see instances where they've been accused by professors of repeatedly faking the scientific peer review process, to benefit many logically-flawed "researchers" including but not limited to 911 conspiracy "researchers" -- are the only sort of low-class (not well-respected) publishers who I've seen publish such drivel, which then made Prof. Pileni resign stating she did NOT peer review the article by 911 conspiracy theorists (mostly SOCIAL scientists, submitting a paper on Physical Chemistry, an EXACT science: contrast exact sciences with social sciences), as the 911 "researchers" & Bentham itself had claimed Prof. Pileni did. Getting back on topic: With the Shia of Lebanon, and this hilarious historical revisionism of calling these "Lebanese" villages, you're dealing with similarly deceitful ilk as the 911 theorists & Bentham "scientific" publishing. 72.48.252.105 (talk) 03:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Despite the ranty nature of this posting, it is true that there is a problem with several articles. At some point in the past they were revised from a Lebanese-nationalist viewpoint and this needs to be addressed. However, nonsense like "Lebanon didn't exist" doesn't help. Zero^talk 08:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I found a way to fix this article. These 7 villages were the only ones in Mandatory Palestine with a Shi'ite population (Abil al-Qamh was 2/3 Shi'ite, the rest almost entirely). So we should rename it accordingly. How about "Shi'ite villages in Palestine"? Zero^talk 10:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine with that proposal, although it should be "Shia villages" instead of "Shi'ite" since that appears to be the preferred spelling on wikipedia. --Al Ameer (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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