Talk:Oliver St. John Gogarty

Father's death date

Seems to be 1891 not 1887. http://www.jjon.org/jioyce-s-people/aunt

Timmy Finnegan (talk) 19:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Untitled

I will try to expand this basic article on a very interesting character, including looking at some of his contacts, such as Yeats and Dunsany, and letters. And more of the verse, maybe.

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st. with a dot?

I thought the 'St' was short for 'Saint' rather than Street? 'St.' with a dot means Street! Orexis bouleutike (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

It's pronounced "Sinjin" anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Jonchapple (talk) 11:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

This abbreviation cannot be distinguished like that: either one could be "saint" or "street" ("saint" can also be "S." with plural "SS.") "St. John" is still one surname containing two words pronounced like one word. The town of "Saint John" in New Brunswick prefers that form because of "St John's" in Newfoundland.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 06:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

The dot is not normally used in current punctuation. My 1981 Granada paperback reprint of the 1964 Jonathan Cape biography by Ulick O'Connor has 'Oliver St John Gogarty' (printed exactly like that) as the title on the cover and title page, and in every mention of the subject's full name in the text. And St John's Wood in London... that never has the dot. Nor does St John's College Oxford, about which Gogarty wrote that limerick (though he himself was at Worcester College, and only for two terms). Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:45, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

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