Talk:Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (film)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Sceptre in topic Requested move 14 October 2019

Disengage edit

Leave me alone. In August 2016 someone said something, gave their opinion regarding this article. There has been no debate to the validity of said info. I suggest the information is erroneous. It is not overly detailed. Bleucheeses (talk) 01:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

"Has been praised by none" edit

Who? Andrew Levine 19:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Pics of Helena Bonham Carter edit

Where I can find photos of Helena Bonham Carter in this film? David Pro (talk) 16:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Faithfulness to novel edit

I don't agree that this film is faithful to the novel. In fact, it takes considerable liberties. The claim of faithfulness was surely part of the publicity, but those of us who read the novel know that it simply isn't true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davmpls (talkcontribs) 19:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

It was more faithful than other adaptions such as the Boris Karloff series. Emperor001 (talk) 00:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
Hinson says so; and that is all Hinson says. That is not the sentence Emperor is defending. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Reply


Here's a quote from the reference (Hinson's film review) allegedly supporting the claim that this film was somehow true to the book:

"At the crucial moment when the doctor utters the famous words “It’s alive!” in “Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein,” he’s certainly not talking about the movie. All too faithfully adapted by Kenneth Branagh, the film is the last thing that one would expect of a contemporary highbrow version of this ageless horror classic. It is, in a word, dullsville.

"Perhaps wisely, Branagh has chosen to avoid any reference to the memorable Boris Karloff “Frankenstein,” but he hasn’t come up with a vivid counterpart for it either."

What nonsense! The line "It's alive!" is itself clearly a reference to the Karloff film. Nothing like that line occurs in the book. In fact, the whole "animation of the Creature" scene is completely absent from the book. It's a film invention, and the Branagh/DeNiro film follows form. The creation of the Bride of Frankenstein is also absent from the book, but it's a staple of film versions.

The notion that this film is faithful to Shelley's novel is pure marketing hype, and the authors of the Wikipedia article, like the flocks of sheepish moviegoers and reviewers, swallowed the marketing hype. Apparently, it's easy to fall for such nonsense if you haven't read the book. 139.68.134.1 (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Title edit

Why is the article at Mary Shelley's Frankenstein instead of Frankenstein (1994 film)? All of the James Bond films were introduced as either Ian Fleming's name of film or Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in name of film, but their articles are simply at Name of Film. Emperor001 (talk) 00:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'd support a move to Frankenstein (1994 film), if someone makes a formal proposal. --GHcool (talk) 04:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
In that case, I propose that this article be moved to Frankenstein (1994 film). Emperor001 (talk) 17:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Proposed Move edit

I propose that this article be moved to Frankenstein (1994 film). For my reasoning, see above discussion. Emperor001 (talk) 20:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Support because this proposal matches IMDb title. --GHcool (talk) 21:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Rating information edit

I'm removing the sentence "It received an R rating for horrific images and sexual content." from the introduction as it isn't really relevant to the article - if people want its classification they can go to the iMDB or any other classifications site. David Pro (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Novel vs Film edit

I have amended several errors in the section which compares the book to the film; the original author of these bullet points has signalled divergences where none exist (the Creature's murder of William is CLEARLY motivated in the book by the knowledge of his relationship to the Frankenstein family, as among his taunts is the familiar "do you know who my father is?" of all spoilt children, and the creature proceeds to rhapsodize about how hateful this name is to him. In both film and book, then, his desire to silence the child is inextricably bound up with the murder - BOTH works blur the line between murder and manslaughter here). I have also removed references to Victor's "returning" to England to make the "companion" - he says explicitly that he has never been there before, and has only travelled there because he needs to confer with several experts in his field before embarking on a second creature. I have also removed the strange notion that the monster somehow "mistakenly" kills Elizabeth - Shelley, the narrating Victor, AND the gleefully mocking Monster are all fairly clear that this had always been his intention. Generally these bullet points, while VERY useful, seem to have been SLIGHTLY skewed by a desire to make the novel-creature seem more sympathetic (accidentally killing William, accidentally killing Elizabeth) which is not, I am afraid, consistent with the original novel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.130.38 (talk) 08:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 14 October 2019 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 19:57, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply



– Somewhat ambivalent on this; part of me thinks that Mary Shelley's Frankenstein should be a primary redirect to Shelley's novel, but of the three entries on the dab page the 1994 film is clearly primary over the pinball machine and video game it inspired. See also pageview stats for usage. PC78 (talk) 17:25, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose, as the book is primary so the title shouldn't go to the film alone. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • @Randy Kryn: And on the second move (for the dab page)? PC78 (talk) 19:06, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
      • It already goes to the dab, which seems fine as long as the first "above the fold" item remains the book. Randy Kryn (talk) 19:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
        • If the novel is the primary topic then logically it should redirect there. On the other hand, the novel is well-linked from the lead and infobox of the film. Either way, I see little advantage in maintaining the status quo. PC78 (talk) 20:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per above. No primary topic for this term. Paintspot Infez (talk) 19:40, 14 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose We don't want to create some kind of monster. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. If anything is primary it's the novel. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.