Talk:Maja Milinković

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Maja MilinkovicMaja Milinković – The singer's surname is Milinković and cannot be changed. 5.43.102.127 (talk) 16:56, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Relisting. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 09:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • Support as non-controversial consistent with all East Europe BLPs except Ana Ivanović. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:52, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose - do we have sources that tells us she spells her name Milinković in English? At her personal twitter account she chooses to spell it Milinkovic, using the English alphabet. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:37, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Serbians who don't play tennis (in this case she's from Category:Bosnia_and_Herzegovina_female_singers not Serbia) do not have their names limited by the Wimbledon scoreboards or the Daily Mail. Consequently they don't have TENNISNAMES, HOCKEYNAMES or any of the other arguments which caused so much disruption 10 years ago. All this is is a stumpy article which got missed by project editors cleaning up - i.e. WP:SERBIANNAMES. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
And note that Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina female tennis players all have Bosnian names, just like every other East Europe BLP on en.wp except the one where an editor has been through every article body with that Serbian tennis player anglicising her name. (This is is where an emoji would be useful). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support proper spelling. The subject is a Bosnian and there is no evidence she has strong connections with the English-speaking world to justify alternative spellings. No such user (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. As seen on all her album covers (MOS:IDENTITY) and the majority of websites in English, Portuguese and Bosnian from a simple Google search (WP:COMMONAME). Neodop (talk) 21:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support per WP:SERBIANNAMES and WP:COMMONAME. It is also obvious that she selfidentifies as Milinković. Agathoclea (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment Serbian Names is not a policy it is a redundant proposal which went no where. Agathoclea and In Ictu Oculi should be ashamed of trying to use it as an official policy, since states so at the top of the page. Particularly In Ictu Oculi should be careful as he went on project serbia (asking if it was still active) and was told that it was not a policy, was vague and probably wouldn't get community consensus. Games of the world (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
OK. So the reason Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic) (of which WP:SERBIANNAMES is a sub-paragraph) is "dormant" not "redundant" is related to technical issues relating to one or two of the languages on that set of naming conventions - particularly Ukrainian, and not related to Serbian or Bosnian. As the closing admin can check Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina people by occupation is entirely full of BLPs with full fonts both in title and text body. The only issue unresolved regarding Serbian fonts is this "The consonant đ may sometimes appear as dj in some sources, but the preferred spelling is đ. The purpose of spelling this consonant đ is to avoid confusion over the varying roles of the sound 'j' in the Serbian language.". Since the consonant đ/dj does not occur in Milinković there is no reason to make this BLP the sole exception in the Bosnian BLP corpus. Quite happy to offer a Cadbury's Creme Egg to any editor able to find a Bosnian BLP ending in -ć where the -ć has been suppressed to pre-Unicode -c. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose No clear examples of any argument from OP or anyone wanting it to be changed. Games of the world (talk) 12:06, 29 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Support - I'm not a massive fan of diacritics, but if she uses them herself, I think we should. As long as there's a redirect, the diacritic won't prevent anyone finding her. Deb (talk) 11:47, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose - per other comments. Also, would appreciate it, if the practice of adding diacritics to the article content of the subjects name, when the article title is nominated for change, would stop. Rightly or wrongly, it come across as an attempt to curry favour towards an RM result. GoodDay (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

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