Talk:List of carillons of the British Isles

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The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that the carillons of the British Isles were primarily constructed in the interwar period? Source: Carillon Society of Britain and Ireland and Dove's Guide
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of politicians killed in the American Civil War
  • Comment: Open to suggestions on the hook.

Created by Thrakkx (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 1 August 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Thrakkx: Nice work on this list article. There's one issue that needs to be addressed, but everything else looks good to go.

• • The hook says that the carillons of the British Isles were primarily constructed in the interwar period, but the fact is not cited or mentioned in the article itself. I can kind of see why you concluded this but, per WP:DYKCRIT rule 3a, "The hook should include a definite fact that is mentioned in the article and interesting to a broad audience." Epicgenius (talk) 15:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: I added explicit mention of this fact in the paragraph that summarizes the tables: The carillons were primarily constructed in the interwar period by the English bellfounders Gillett & Johnston and John Taylor & Co. Thrakkx (talk) 15:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Everything looks good to go. The source also needs to be directly after the end of the sentence that mentions the hook fact, but that should not hinder the promotion of this nomination. Epicgenius (talk) 15:51, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

It appears that it has been inline cited. Promoting! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Another?

Our church in England has 8 bells hit with hammers connected to levers, and a pneumatic player mechanism. There is much you cannot play! But is it a carillon? 86.186.158.19 (talk) 05:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi! According to the Carillon Society of Britain and Ireland and other carillon-related institutions, an instrument must have at least 23 bells (among other requirements) to be a carillon. Thrakkx (talk) 20:47, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Earlier carillons

Not sure about the premise that ALL British carillons were post-first World War.

• The Royal Exchange, London has a carillon dating from 1844, which you can hear in this YouTube clip of the 1950 restoration (see also "Bells and Chimes of the Royal Exchange". london.lovesguide.com. Retrieved 2022-07-14.).
• The George Cadbury Memorial Carillon, Bournville Village Primary School dates from 1906.

Are there others? Alansplodge (talk) 16:47, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

• The 1844 carillon is not a carillon per the definition of the CSBI (and most organizations concerned with carillons in general), which requires there be at least 23 bells; this instrument has only 13
• For the same reason as above, the Bournville carillon did not qualify as one until 15 bells were added to the original 22 in 1923.

Still, the article doesn't say all, but rather primarily constructed in the interwar period. Thrakkx (talk) 20:46, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Understood, many thanks. Alansplodge (talk) 10:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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