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FAR for Scottish ParliamentEdit

I have nominated Scottish Parliament for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 22:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

FAR for St KildaEdit

I have nominated St Kilda, Scotland for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKay (talk) 17:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

The Galloway HoardEdit

Hello Scotland group,

I'm getting in touch about the Galloway Hoard. I'm Digital Product Manager at National Museums Scotland, and we've been working in partnership with Wikimedia UK over the last couple of years to move the organisation forward in our journey towards open access to the national collections. We've been publishing some small image releases to Wiki Commons of objects like the Lewis Chessmen and the Monymusk Reliquary.

The next step in this project is an upload of images of the Galloway Hoard, which you can find in the category https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Galloway_Hoard_at_the_National_Museum_of_Scotland

As a bit of background, the hoard was acquired by National Museums Scotland in 2017 thanks to generous support from the public. We're due to exhibit the hoard at the National Museum of Scotland and on tour around Scotland in 2021. I wanted to flag the images with WikiProject Scotland in case there are any pages - existing or new - you'd like to use them in.

Part of the project at NMS is about internal advocacy and demonstrating the value of opening up access to the collections via Wikmedia, so please let me know if you use the images in any content as we'd be delighted to see how they are used.

Thanks, Adam Adamcoulson (talk) 12:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Messed up talk page archivingEdit

While looking for very long page titles we found this beauty: Talk:Scottish clan/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1/Archives/2016 1 - and another one. The problem was an archiving instruction that itself got archived - so the bot created an archive of the archive, again containing the archiving instruction... that's cleaned up as soon as an admin deletes the extra pages, but in the process I found a different error: Talk:Clan Campbell, Talk:Kingdom of Scotland, Talk:Highland games, Talk:Clan Campbell, Talk:Largs, Talk:River Clyde, Talk:Dumbarton, Talk:Cowal and the non-Scotland Talk:Commuter town (which also had archive nesting) all told the bot that archives will be at Talk:Cowal/Archives/. The archiving went to the right pages, but User:Cluebot III stored that information in pages like User:ClueBot III/Indices/Talk:River Clyde so now all archive infoboxes show the wrong archives. If you want to fix your archives, go to the all the corresponding pages and replace the wrong archive links with the actual archives. You can find them here: Special:PrefixIndex/Talk:River_Clyde/. It's possible that the bot does that automatically in the future, but it might just keep the old archives around. How did that happen? Someone copied the archive instructions from Cowal to other talk pages without changing the parameter in there. --mfb (talk) 12:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Salmondgate?Edit

Do we have an article dedicated to the current unpleasantness in the SNP? If not, should we? It seems the matter would easily pass GNG and there is enormous secondary source coverage. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I can help draft such an article if needed, but I would suggest a more neutral title like Scottish Government harassment inquiry or similar. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 09:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm a wee bit surprised we don't have one tbf. Perhaps Scottish Government harassment investigation inquiry or as the BBC often put it Inquiry into the Scottish Government's handling of harassment complaints? I agree that we shouldn't use Salmondgate as it's not a commonly used name for the whole ordeal but Scottish Government harassment inquiry sounds a bit like it was the Scottish Government who were doing the alleged harassment. Whatever name we pick, it's not going to be a simple one. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Either of those sounds good Stevie fae Scotland, although I prefer the second one as it is more descriptive. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 11:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
I agree that an article is needed and that it should be titled neutrally. But I'd caution that it needs to be handled very carefully due to the legal issues involved and that it might become a bit of a magnet for seriously inadvisable edits. PelicanPrize (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I see JLo-Watson has created a draft (Draft:Alex Salmond scandal), I have also started one (Draft:Inquiry into the Scottish Government's handling of harassment complaints). JLo-Watson's draft is more complete than mine, but I am unsure whether "Alex Salmond scandal" is a suitable title considering that the focus is on the Scottish Government's handling of the complaints, not Alex Salmond himself (the trial is already covered at HM Advocate v Salmond). I would propose merging the two together when ready to move to mainspace. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 19:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Good idea PinkPanda - The name of the article was something I struggled with myself honestly. I was thinking perhaps Salmond-Sturgeon standal/affair or the like but it’s a difficult one. Thanks :) JLo-Watson (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

JLo-Watson: I've copied some of the text from your draft to my one, and I'll work on adding more details before I move it to mainspace. You (and others) are more than welcome to help out if you wish. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 18:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Scottish peopleEdit

There have been very substantial changes made to the Scottish people article in the last day or so which strike me as requiring some scrutiny. @2A02:C7F:C7A:4A00:9402:A34A:22C7:8DB4: has made a start, removing or editing substantial sections of the additions and has commented on the talk page. I'm partly inclined to reverting further, to the status quo ante, and asking the editor to state their case though some of their additions may be of worth. Any views? Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Scottish parishesEdit

How should we deal with Scottish parishes with respect to merging non notable articles to them and categorization? Category:Falkland, Fife that I created for example is only for the village (namely the census locality) even though Freuchie is located in the parish of Falkland. In the case of Category:Stanhope, County Durham (and Category:Rothwell, West Yorkshire an unparished area) in England the category is also for the parish which includes a far wider area such as Westgate, County Durham. I originally was under the impression that Scottish parishes were almost completely defunct, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 12#Rhives though I did favour targeting a parish at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 16#St Fort. However I have found that Canmore (select boundaries on the top right) does show parish boundaries and sources at each of the listed buildings articles for each parish (created by a bot in 2012) such as List of listed buildings in Falkland, Fife also uses parishes. I don't think that there's dispute that they are notable since defunct places remain notable anyway but should we be using them in categorization etc in a way that suggests that they're current? Obviously in cases like Raasay which is in Portree parish we would merge non notable topics to the island itself since we generally try to put in the lowest place reasonably possible but we should ask if Raasay and Category:Raasay should be in Category:Portree? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Merge proposalEdit

A proposal is currently listed at Talk:Moredun as to whether Craigour should be merged into it. Comments welcomed, thanks. Crowsus (talk) 21:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Photos of cricket groundsEdit

Hello WP:Scotland members. I'm just over from the Cricket Project. We're looking for editors to take pictures of cricket grounds which have hosted major matches at international/domestic level. Here are some cricket grounds in Scotland which we currently do not have photos for. It would be greatly appreciated if any project members living locally to these grounds were to dust off their cameras and take some photos! Thanks in advance. StickyWicket (talk) 09:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, have you checked on Geograph [1], might be a few of those on there? You're probably already aware, but the first decade worth of contributions were uploaded automatically to Commons, but that hasn't happened with the second decade - but they are still eligible for Wikimedia and can be uploaded easily? Crowsus (talk) 09:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Crowsus. I did check Geograph and the only one I could see that had any sort of photo was Shawholm, but the picture wasn't the best! StickyWicket (talk) 10:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
OK, thought you might have. Well, Shawholm, Uddingston and Titwood aren't a million miles from me so I might swing by at some point soon and try to grab something. Not going to Perth for that tho I'm afraid! Crowsus (talk) 10:21, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Crowsus if you could grab a few shots of those three that would be absolutely brilliant :) StickyWicket (talk) 12:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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