Talk:Jennie (singer)

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Changing subject's lead to Kim Che-ni (Korean: 김제니; born January 16, 1996), better known by the stage name Jennie Kim....., since its the correct romanization of the Korean alphabet provided above 27.125.249.28 (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Why do we need to use the romanized form when she has an established English name? Evaders99 (talk) 03:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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Requested move 13 September 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Jennie (singer) → Jennie
• Jennie → Jennie (disambiguation)

– Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 00:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose but not per long-term significance (try searches on Google News/Books/Scholar). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 00:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose given that Jennie and Jenny are so similar, and that the given name page for Jenny lists nearly two dozen people named Jennie. BD2412 T 02:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as Jennie is a very common name. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, she fails PT1 (long-term significance). Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 05:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
• Does the average English reader strongly associate this term with this person? It seems doubtful. The linked look at statistics ignores the fact that people looking for biographies called 'Jennie' currently have to click through to Jennie (given name) which is merged with Jenny, so we're saying the average reader doesn't really distinguish the two forms, even. This means there's then a big conflated list of both sets. If we look at mass views of all of those and compare to mass views of all of the topics listed here, we can see that while the Korean singer gets >2.7k views/day and another <0.5k as Jennie Kim, but then there's also Jennie Garth with >2.1k views/day, Jennie Bond <0.2k, and the long tail. And the spelling Jenny, which may be practically indistinguishuable to the average reader, in turn has Jennifer Lopez (Jenny from the Block?) at >17.3k, Jenny McCarthy at >7k, Jenny Slate at >4.6k etc etc. The spelling difference might be distinguishable, but even if it's not so for just a fraction of those readers, the numbers are just not there. And the long-term significance comparison likewise - why is it more important for the spread of knowledge to tell people about the Korean singer compared to all these other people? (Oppose) --Joy (talk) 10:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  Unlike Jennie Kim, I doubt that the Jennies you mentioned (and others listed at Jenny [given name]) are commonly referred to as simply Jennie. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 14:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

  They don't have to be. We know from numerous earlier examples that when people look up a known human name, a lot of them expect to see us resolve that ambiguity (with disambiguation) and they commonly proceed to navigate an index of people called like that. The most recent example of this that I can remember was at Talk:Cohen, but there's many many more I've noted at WT:D.

  An expectation that they be short-circuited to a mononymous usage, lest they be astonished, is not that common, it only exists with very well known people. --Joy (talk) 15:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Hameltion, BD2412, Btspurplegalaxy and Joy. There are far too many entries [including those under Jennie (given name)] listed upon the Jennie disambiguation page for one entry to be primary over the combined notability of all the others. Also, while name variations are not part of this nomination, it may be worth noting that having separate entries for Jennie, Jenny and Jenni is not really helpful to users. Jenifer is a redirect to the Jennifer disambiguation page which coincidentally lists another vocalist, Jenifer (singer) from France. Many such name entries are combined — Catherine and Katharine redirect to Katherine, Elisabeth redirects to Elizabeth, Phillip redirects to Philip, Steven redirects to Stephen, Bobbie, Freddie, Johnnie, Richy and Willie redirect to Bobby, Freddy, Johnny, Richie and Willy, etc. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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