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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain ^t/c 14:40, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Happy (Koharu Kusumi song) → Happy (Kirarin Revolution song) – Song is mainly credited to Kirari Tsukishima, a character from Kirarin Revolution, and was created as a theme song exclusive to Kirarin Revolution. Koharu Kusumi is only playing the character. lullabying (talk) 04:43, 11 January 2019 (UTC) lullabying (talk) 04:43, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Alternatively, I would be fine to renaming the article into Happy (Kirari Tsukishima song) since Kirari Tsukishima is technically the artist of the song, similar to how some articles for Hannah Montana are named Make Some Noise (Hannah Montana song) or Ordinary Girl (Hannah Montana song) (referencing that the song is credited to the character). lullabying (talk) 05:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Lullabying: First of all, I would like to tell you that your work is appreciated and I'm sorry I had to interfere and undo your renames. But the disambiguation scheme you are proposing is technically incorrect and will also make the titles less recognizable.
Now let's look at the covers. The song is credited to both Kirari Tsukishima and Kusumi Koharu who voiced the character. More precisely, to "Kirari Tsukishima starring Koharu Kusumi (Morning Musume)" (月島きらり starring 久住小春(モーニング娘。)). The anime Kirarin Revolution is not mentioned in the title or anywhere. So why rename the article?
Yes, the song can be filed under "Kirari Tsukishima", but I don't see any reason to do it. The character is not as famous as Hannah Montana. And, as I've said, Kusumi Koharu is also credited.
Oppose. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:42, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
- Kirari Tsukishima is the primary artist and music released by Koharu Kusumi for Kirarin Revolution are image songs. So I think renaming the article to Kirari Tsukishima might be better. The examples I listed make it ambiguous as to whether they're referring to Hannah Montana as the character and the show, but Koharu Kusumi is technically performing as a character with music released under her character's name.lullabying (talk) 16:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
- Re: renaming to Kirarin Revolution: Compare songs named on the basis of the work where it originated from, i.e. Cabaret (Cabaret song), Home (The Wiz song), On My Own (Les Misérables). It's also more appropriate to rename based on the work it originated from, as the songs were made and tailored specifically for the show Kirarin Revolution, not as a tie-in like other anime theme songs like Magic Number (Maaya Sakamoto song) or Pray (Tomoko Kawase song). lullabying (talk) 17:37, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Rename to (Kirari Tsukishima song). She's recorded three albums as "Kirari Tsukishima starring Koharu Kusumi (Morning Musume)", where her live-action face is on the album cover, so she is clearly using Kirari Tsukishima as a stage name in addition to her character role. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:11, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
CDJournal has the singles filed under "Koharu Kusumi": [1]. (CDJournal is a reliable Japanese music news website.) I still don't see a reason to rename. Calling it a "Koharu Kusumi single" is not incorrect. I think the songs are more recognizable as Koharu Kusumi songs cause her character from Kirarin Revolution isn't that famous. --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
- Barks lists the artist as "Kirari Tsukishima" in the title of their review though, and that's a valid source too. Koharu Kusumi is just playing a character and all songs are released under the stage name Kirari Tsukishima. It's basically the same thing as when anime image songs are credited to the character with the actor's name as a side note (example). It wouldn't make sense to treat it as a release for the actor's main discography when clearly the song was an original song for the show, not as a tie-in. lullabying (talk) 19:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

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