Talk:Fly on the Wall (song)

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Digital download

The section were it says that it was released for digital download on iTunes is completely false unless released with the album. The song has not been available by itself for download on the date designated. Unless referenced I will or someone else will remove that sentence. -- Arlonuelle (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC).

 Done If it is a single, it cannot say the release date of the album. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 18:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Jack and the Beanstalk

Please stop saying that this song is going to be used in a Disney movie, Jack and the Beanstalk. It's not true and it is not funny because it is not ok to make fun of her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.57.101 (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done That is irrelevant to the song even if it was true. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 18:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was  Done. — Aitias // discussion 23:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Fly on the Wall (Miley Cyrus song) → Fly on the Wall (song) — The latter article is already linked to the former article, so the term "Miley Cyrus song" can be renamed simply to "song". I did a Wikipedia search and there are no other song with the title Fly on the Wall. Please inform me if I'm wrong. Thanks in advance! :) kotakkasut 07:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

• Support move. There are a couple of songs listed at Fly on the wall (disambiguation) but none of them have articles yet. Jafeluv (talk) 10:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
• Comment Jafeluv's right! All the other songs listed at the disambiguation page doesn't have their own articles because they're not notable enough to have their own pages, thus they're redirected to their respective albums instead. Since Miley Cyrus' song with the same name is a notable charting single, it's the only song (for now) that takes the Fly on The Wall title, and thus, it deserves to be moved to the Fly on the Wall (song) page. I would also request administrators to review this page move request and give out their comments and decide whether it deserves to be moved or not. Signed, kotakkasut 05:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
• Support. In general, if (a) there is no other song with this name, (b) no other song with that name that is sufficiently notable to be in WP, or (c) among all the songs so named in WP, this one is primary, then this should be at ''Song-name'' (song). Per (a), the current name is unnecessary precision. --Born2cycle (talk) 07:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
• Support there are lots of other songs named Fly on the Wall, but none with articles. If any of them are created into articles, then this should be moved back to Miley Cyrus song. In the near future, move to (song). Jolly Ω Janner 13:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Copy-editing

• One of the first sentences, "Replaced from "Full Circle" due to unknown reasons", does not make sense. I'm not sure what this sentence is trying to say, or I would fix it myself. Will someone let me know? Liquidluck (talk) 23:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Well I put that because "Full Circle" was originally the second single from Breakout. This is my source, an organization from parents named Common Sense Media. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Originally I was just concerned about the wording being confusing, but I checked out the source, and it doesn't look like a reliable one. I'd say take it out unless there are other sources- it is more likely commonsense was mistaken. Liquidluck (talk) 23:14, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Yea, your probably right. I ran a Google search and there was nothings covering it. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

• Finished copy-editing! Liquidluck (talk) 05:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Song sampled removed

Why was the link to the B52's song removed? It's the song sampled in Fly On The Wall and should be at least stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.241.28.194 (talk) 16:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

It was removed because YouTube is not a reliable source. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

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This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   In the Critical reception section, "...and provided hints of Cyrus's future musical direction" ---> "...and provided hints of Cyrus' future musical direction". Same section, this ---> "...Sal Cinquemani of the online Slant Magazine", doesn't quite make sense. In the Chart performance section, "...the next week" replace "next" with "following", has better wording. Same section, "...the song ascended to number sixteen and became Cyrus's second best charting single in the United Kingdom" ---> "...the song ascended to number sixteen and became Cyrus' second best charting single in the United Kingdom." In the Live performances section, "The set, with some songs by Cyrus's father" ---> "The set, with some songs by Cyrus' father". Same section, there's too much repetition of "Cyrus", maybe have a consistency. Same section, "Fly on the Wall" is one of the songs on the set list of Cyrus's first international concert tour" ---> "Fly on the Wall" is one of the songs on the set list of Cyrus' first international concert tour".

   Done. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

   Check.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   Throughout the article, please link "first person" and "plaid" to their correspondence articles. In the Critical reception section, the Heather Phares' quote about the song being a "G-rated version of Britney Spears' "Toxic", is the quote together with the addition of "Toxic"? If so, it needs to be ---> "Heather Phares of Allmusic said the song was a "G-rated version of Britney Spears' 'Toxic'". In the Chart performance section, "...the week ending March 18 at number fifty seven", "fifty seven" ---> "fifty-seven". In the Live performances section, please link "See You Again", "Breakout", "7 Things", and "The Climb" once.

   Linked plaid with its corresponding page, corrected the quote and Austria position, and linked all songs once in the Live performances section. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

   Check.

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   Reference 27 shouldn't be in all capitals, per here. Reference 29 is dead, per here. Also, something seems wrong with Ref. 41. You might want to add accessdates to Refs. 26 and 28.

   Solved. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

   Check.

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you to Ipodnano for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:25, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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