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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
... that the Turkish female sailor Ecem Güzel, whose mother took out a bank loan to cover the training expenses as she started sailing, managed to get a quota for the 2020 Summer Olympic Games? Source: "... you qualified Turkey for the 2020 Olympics ..." [1], "Evet kızı yelken sporuna gönül veren ve onun için kredi çeken anne benim " (in Turkish)[2]
Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC).Reply
Article new and long enough, well cited and interesting. It needs a copyedit, because some of it doesn't make sense or is poor English. The hook, equally, has the issue that some of it doesn't make sense - specifically 'quota', which is definitely not right and yet is the main intrigue. Reading the article, this is clearly supposed to be 'sponsor'. Another issue with the hook is that it is covering two bases: that Güzel's mother had to get a loan for her to start sailing, and that Güzel both qualified for and got a sponsor for the 2020 Olympics. The Olympics is less interesting IMO, because it's basically just stating her occupation (and there's a bunch of them, what makes her stand out?). Equally, comparing once needing a loan to later getting sponsorship in elite sports isn't unusual either, that's how most athletes operate. Maybe say she first got interested in sailing on holiday as a child? I could offer more help with hooks if I could understand more of the article, though. Kingsif (talk) 19:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Kingsif: Thank you very much for your review. I applie now to the Guild of Copy Editors for the copyediting of the article. For the hook, I hope spmeone elde can suggest an ALT. CeeGee 08:40, 17 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
ALT2 ... that Turkish female international sailing competitorEcem Güzel has won a spot on the podium five times in the last seven years? ~ R.T.G 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Alt 2 looks good, is there any update on the copyedit? Kingsif (talk) 13:42, 5 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately , there is no progress with the copyediting. I will let you know when it is done. CeeGee 17:34, 5 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@CeeGee and Kingsif: Copyedit for a DYK nomination has been Completed; subject to review by the Guild of Copyeditors Coordinators since I've only been with the WikiProject for 7 days. Here are the copyedits, good luck CeeGee with your nomination.
@Can I Log In: Thank you very much for your time and copyedting. CeeGee 09:15, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Kingsif: Copyediting of the article seems to be completed. Could you take a look again please. CeeGee 08:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'm waiting for the check. Some of the phrasing is still awkward at least, and the edit reason attached to the copy edits contains a grammar mistake itself. Kingsif (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Kingsif:@CeeGee: I've gone through the article a second time and changed a few more words. Since I know nothing about the subject, I can make no further improvements. As far as the GOCE is concerned the copy edit is completed. It's written in basic English for sure. Perhaps Kingsif can simply fix the particular phrase they find awkward? Regards, Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:05, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot for your time. CeeGee 12:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
A fact from Ecem Güzel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 May 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Turkish female international sailing competitor Ecem Güzel has finished in the top three of a competition five times in the last seven years?
Article new and long enough, well cited and interesting. It needs a copyedit, because some of it doesn't make sense or is poor English. The hook, equally, has the issue that some of it doesn't make sense - specifically 'quota', which is definitely not right and yet is the main intrigue. Reading the article, this is clearly supposed to be 'sponsor'. Another issue with the hook is that it is covering two bases: that Güzel's mother had to get a loan for her to start sailing, and that Güzel both qualified for and got a sponsor for the 2020 Olympics. The Olympics is less interesting IMO, because it's basically just stating her occupation (and there's a bunch of them, what makes her stand out?). Equally, comparing once needing a loan to later getting sponsorship in elite sports isn't unusual either, that's how most athletes operate. Maybe say she first got interested in sailing on holiday as a child? I could offer more help with hooks if I could understand more of the article, though. Kingsif (talk) 19:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Completed; subject to review by the Guild of Copyeditors Coordinators since I've only been with the WikiProject for 7 days. Here are the copyedits, good luck CeeGee with your nomination.
