Talk:Christmas Queens 2

Christmas Queens Tour

Might be worth creating Christmas Queens Tour if the "Christmas Queens" name is recycled year after year. For now, I've included details about the 2016 tour here, but I'm not necessarily opposed to a separate article for the annual tour. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I agree that it would be worth it to create an article for this notable tour, just as we have for Werq the World. I've just uploaded some images to c:Category:Christmas Queens that could be used to illustrate the article. Armadillopteryx 23:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, Wonderful, thank you! I still need to incorporate the above review and then I am going to nominate this article for Good status. Are you comfortable with the level of detail about the tour I've included here, at least for now since there's no standalone page about the tour? All the content I've included is about the 2016 stint. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, Also, I'm open to your other improvements, copy edits or otherwise. Thanks again! Would be fun to get this whole series of compilations albums promoted... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:56, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I think the level of detail about the tour here is appropriate, especially given the lack of standalone article. There's also minimal mention of the tour elsewhere, such as at Christmas Queens 4, which I think is proportional there as well, given the stub status of that article. Would indeed be nice to improve and promote more of these! Armadillopteryx 23:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: If you let me know when you're done editing this article for the time being, I'll go through and give it a copy edit. Otherwise I have a feeling there would be a bunch of edit conflicts. Armadillopteryx 00:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx,  Done Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Suggestions

@Another Believer: The second paragraph of the #Composition section seems to be missing its citation (which doesn't appear to be any of the three sources cited elsewhere in the section). Same goes for the second half of the last paragraph in that section. Do you have those handy?

Also, I notice that you've added the publisher for some (but not all) periodicals with standalone articles. The first occurrence of Billboard has its publisher mentioned, but subsequent mentions do not. Has citation guidance or your preference changed since this discussion? Armadillopteryx 02:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, The composition section is mostly just based on the track listing itself, so I guess the Apple Store. Publishers don't need to be mentioned for publications more than once, so we should only mention Billboard's publisher for the first use. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay—the template documentation seems to discourage listing the publisher for periodicals at all, though it certainly doesn't forbid it, either.

The sentence Katya performed "Merry Christmas, It's Whateva" as her "trashy" alter ego Trish, described as "a recovering drug addict who still smokes pot", and her "hysterical, marathon" rendition of "The Twelve Days of Christmas". needs a citation after it; the citation after the following sentence does not include these quotes. I'll be done editing this section in a sec. Armadillopteryx 02:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC) – I found the source and added the citation. Armadillopteryx 02:49, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Are you still editing in this section? I just spent the better part of half an hour going through #Release and promotion, only to see we now have an edit conflict. I did my best to merge the edits correctly (please check my work); I'll wait until you're done before continuing. Armadillopteryx 02:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to start editing the Reception and chart history section now. Armadillopteryx 03:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

That one was quick—I'm done! Armadillopteryx 03:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, Thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

A couple comments:

• I notice that both the "Tour and live performance" subsection and the "Reception and chart history" section contain quotes from Joe Lynch referring to Visage's "O Holy Night" as "reverent", among other things. I think this reads as a bit redundant; I would suggest combining that commentary into one section or the other (or perhaps replacing one instance with a different quote/comment).
• Is there MOS guidance on whether to link every occurrence of an artist's name in an album track listing, as is presently done here (at a glance, at least with Alaska and Katya)? This seems to contravene the guideline for tables.

Armadillopteryx 03:25, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx, Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice covers linking within the Personnel section, but not the track listing section unless I'm overlooking. I went ahead and removed the duplicate link for Alaska, but did not remove the link to Katya because the first link is for "Trish". Thanks again for your help here and sorry for the edit conflict. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: You're welcome, and good luck at GAN! Armadillopteryx 17:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC)